ImageImage

GT charlotte vs t-wolves 12/5 8PM EST

Moderators: fatlever, JDR720, Diop, BigSlam, yosemiteben

tondi123
Starter
Posts: 2,030
And1: 1,376
Joined: Dec 07, 2011

Re: GT charlotte vs t-wolves 12/5 8PM EST 

Post#81 » by tondi123 » Thu Dec 6, 2018 4:34 pm

fatlever wrote:With each passing game I get closer to being okay with trading our star for a bunch of young assets.

In semi-related news. Walker has not been the same since the 60/40 games.

Sent from my SM-G920V using RealGM mobile app


Its almost like Kemba started reading his press clippings.
bravor
Veteran
Posts: 2,591
And1: 829
Joined: Dec 30, 2015
 

Re: GT charlotte vs t-wolves 12/5 8PM EST 

Post#82 » by bravor » Thu Dec 6, 2018 4:37 pm

To Kemba's credit, he had an ankle (?) injury not so long ago. But he must be frustrated from all the small losses, even though he also played some hero ball at times.
Anyway we are back two years ago when some poeple were hoping for tough players to join this squad after the run in play offs against the Heat.

This is something which is needed, couple of players who can step up defensively, who foul when they have to. With good old school fouls. Hard fouls (i dont mean injuring players, but c'mon..). I can live with a few more technicals, that's much better than seeing all those heads looking down after an avoidable lay up/dunks from a simple dribble/drive or from an off board/dunk.

Lamb's scoring was just an illusion here, as long as other guards torch the team. And you can add all the pf/c with a decent outside shoot. Borrego's play style might work with a good roster, but right now he badly needs to find solutions defensively because this is what is killing this team. Having a second reliable option might just delay the result, as if you can't get any stop in the 4th, well...
Braggins
RealGM
Posts: 14,476
And1: 9,270
Joined: Jan 05, 2014

Re: GT charlotte vs t-wolves 12/5 8PM EST 

Post#83 » by Braggins » Thu Dec 6, 2018 4:40 pm

tondi123 wrote:I'm not sure we are any better than last year. You take Parker off this team (who has won a few games by himself this season) and we have one of the worst records in the east. Better enjoy having a legit backup PG on the roster because he gone after this year.

Except that Parker has actually been pretty awful and is one of the players we most need to replace.

-4.5 box +/- (-3.9 on defense), last on defense by -.9 margin and 2nd to last on the team overall

- 1.58 real +/-

-.3 vorp
User avatar
yosemiteben
Forum Mod - Hornets
Forum Mod - Hornets
Posts: 22,236
And1: 15,477
Joined: Mar 20, 2013
   

Re: GT charlotte vs t-wolves 12/5 8PM EST 

Post#84 » by yosemiteben » Thu Dec 6, 2018 4:42 pm

fatlever wrote:Pretty sure that 60 point game came after the Jimmy Butler trade.

Crap you're right. Dangit, so that actually helps his case.
Braggins
RealGM
Posts: 14,476
And1: 9,270
Joined: Jan 05, 2014

Re: GT charlotte vs t-wolves 12/5 8PM EST 

Post#85 » by Braggins » Thu Dec 6, 2018 4:43 pm

bravor wrote:To Kemba's credit, he had an ankle (?) injury not so long ago. But he must be frustrated from all the small losses, even though he also played some hero ball at times.
Anyway we are back two years ago when some poeple were hoping for tough players to join this squad after the run in play offs against the Heat.

This is something which is needed, couple of players who can step up defensively, who foul when they have to. With good old school fouls. Hard fouls (i dont mean injuring players, but c'mon..). I can live with a few more technicals, that's much better than seeing all those heads looking down after an avoidable lay up/dunks from a simple dribble/drive or from an off board/dunk.

Lamb's scoring was just an illusion here, as long as other guards torch the team. And you can add all the pf/c with a decent outside shoot. Borrego's play style might work with a good roster, but right now he badly needs to find solutions defensively because this is what is killing this team. Having a second reliable option might just delay the result, as if you can't get any stop in the 4th, well...

Our 1st and 2nd best perimeter defenders at the guard position are Lamb and Kemba. Let that sink in.

Our 2nd unit back court is Parker/Monk.

The defensive problem was obvious and the front office should have addressed it in the offseason. Signing Parker to be our backup point guard when we were committed to developing Monk was still a bad move.
tondi123
Starter
Posts: 2,030
And1: 1,376
Joined: Dec 07, 2011

Re: GT charlotte vs t-wolves 12/5 8PM EST 

Post#86 » by tondi123 » Thu Dec 6, 2018 4:44 pm

Braggins wrote:
tondi123 wrote:I'm not sure we are any better than last year. You take Parker off this team (who has won a few games by himself this season) and we have one of the worst records in the east. Better enjoy having a legit backup PG on the roster because he gone after this year.

Except that Parker has actually been pretty awful and is one of the players we most need to replace.

-4.5 box +/- (-3.9 on defense), 2nd to last on the team
- 1.58 real +/-
-.3 vorp


But he has had a few lights out games this year where he looked like our best, or maybe second best, player. He's definitely been our best backup PG in forever, which is perhaps more of an indictment on the teams ability to fill that role than on him being all that great. Either way, replace him with Graham and we get a lot worse.
Klomp
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 68,731
And1: 22,296
Joined: Jul 08, 2005
Contact:
   

Re: GT charlotte vs t-wolves 12/5 8PM EST 

Post#87 » by Klomp » Thu Dec 6, 2018 5:47 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Cant win with Kemba and Lamb going 11 for 35 or whatever it is. Kembas in a slump

Welcome to the Rob Covington Experience

You mean the guy Kemba hung 62 on?

Nope, that was Jimmy Butler, nice try though.....oh and it was only 60, not 62.
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
User avatar
Liver_Pooty
RealGM
Posts: 40,725
And1: 16,719
Joined: Dec 29, 2008
Location: Asheville, NC
   

Re: GT charlotte vs t-wolves 12/5 8PM EST 

Post#88 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Dec 6, 2018 6:02 pm

Klomp wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
Klomp wrote:Welcome to the Rob Covington Experience

You mean the guy Kemba hung 62 on?

Nope, that was Jimmy Butler, nice try though.....oh and it was only 60, not 62.


Already been discussed. Late.
Balllin wrote:Zion Williamson is 6-5, with a 6-10 wingspan. I see him as a slightly better Kenneth Faried.
User avatar
JDR720
Forum Mod - Hornets
Forum Mod - Hornets
Posts: 44,077
And1: 45,511
Joined: Jul 09, 2013
     

Re: GT charlotte vs t-wolves 12/5 8PM EST 

Post#89 » by JDR720 » Thu Dec 6, 2018 8:06 pm

Read on Twitter


I have to say, im very surprised that rating isn't lower. I guess every NBA team decided to stop playing defense this season.

Return to Charlotte Hornets