Steph Curry is shooting 50% on 10.8 3pt attempts per game, 52% overall

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Re: Steph Curry is shooting 50% on 10.8 3pt attempts per game, 52% overall 

Post#61 » by Salieri » Thu Dec 6, 2018 10:47 pm

An Unbiased Fan wrote:Great shooter, but benefiting from era rules


He's not just great, he's the greatest there's ever been.

I don't know about that "era rules" argument, to be honest. Rules apply to everyone, yet Steph is the only one shattering many shooting records.

As another poster pointed out, there are other top tier players who are actually shooting worse than previous years.

So it's kinda odd that era rules are a factor when considering his shooting greatness. It's either:
- That era rules argument is actually a fallacy, and rules don't help shooters despite what it looks like on paper.
- Era rules only help if you're smart enough to take advantage of it in the proper way. This would speak volumes about Steph's BBIQ, which I'd say is a pretty big factor when judging someone's greatness at shooting. In other words, it actually helps cement the argument for Curry being the GOAT shooter.
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Re: Steph Curry is shooting 50% on 10.8 3pt attempts per game, 52% overall 

Post#62 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Dec 6, 2018 10:52 pm

Salieri wrote:
An Unbiased Fan wrote:Great shooter, but benefiting from era rules


He's not just great, he's the greatest there's ever been.

I don't know about that "era rules" argument, to be honest. Rules apply to everyone, yet Steph is the only one shattering many shooting records.

As another poster pointed out, there are other top tier players who are actually shooting worse than previous years.

So it's kinda odd that era rules are a factor when considering his shooting greatness. It's either:
- That era rules argument is actually a fallacy, and rules don't help shooters despite what it looks like on paper.
- It only helps if you're smart enough to take advantage of it in the proper way. This would speak volumes about Steph's BBIQ, which I'd say is a pretty big factor when judging someone's greatness at shooting. In other words, it actually helps cement the argument for Curry being the GOAT shooter.


Ya Im not sure what rules would slow down Curry. He has the deepest range in the history of the game, he is best off the bounce shooter the game has seen from range, he has an elite handle so if you play him tight he can get by you, he has touch all inside of the arc and can finish at the rim.

I get that he is a small finesse player and many think he would struggle. But man with his talent, Im sure he would make any adjustments needed and still dominate. He is just a freak talent. I think all freak talents would still find ways to be freak elite talents in any era.
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Re: Steph Curry is shooting 50% on 10.8 3pt attempts per game, 52% overall 

Post#63 » by Benedict_Boozer » Thu Dec 6, 2018 10:53 pm

Curry must have seriously all time elite hand eye coordination. Just amazing how great a shooter he is, might be something we don't see again anytime soon.
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Re: Steph Curry is shooting 50% on 10.8 3pt attempts per game, 52% overall 

Post#64 » by Clyde Frazier » Thu Dec 6, 2018 11:05 pm

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Ice Trae wrote:And to think some people still believe he's not the best shooter to play the game. Insanity.


Best shooter? Yes. Best player? Nope. There are a lot more things to playing basketball than shooting.


I mean... ok? They weren't claiming it was one and the same.

That said, there's a fine argument for curry being the best player in the league currently.
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Post#65 » by Triples333 » Thu Dec 6, 2018 11:09 pm

I don't know, I'm starting to think this skinny dude has a shot to make it in this league.
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Post#66 » by Chanel Bomber » Thu Dec 6, 2018 11:10 pm

It's Steph and LeBron and then the rest. Been that way the last 4 years. They're simply in a different league.
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Re: Steph Curry is shooting 50% on 10.8 3pt attempts per game, 52% overall 

Post#67 » by Blaze4G » Thu Dec 6, 2018 11:10 pm

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Ice Trae wrote:And to think some people still believe he's not the best shooter to play the game. Insanity.

He's the best "3pt / long distance" shooter to play the game. That's why he chooses to take more 3pa than 2pa. He doesn't take enough shots from various spots inside the arc to say he's the best "shooter" of all time.


What?! lol Honestly, you should put some thought into what you just said. Why would he take long 2s when 3s are valued more?
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Re: Steph Curry is shooting 50% on 10.8 3pt attempts per game, 52% overall 

Post#68 » by GusFring » Thu Dec 6, 2018 11:13 pm

Currys the most impactful player in the league, it makes people so mad too :lol:
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Post#69 » by java051997 » Thu Dec 6, 2018 11:24 pm

Not a fan of Steph Curry but he's freaking fantastic
I wished Durant didnt sign on Warriors.
Curry wouldve been MVP every year.

Might have 35ppg in a season.
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Post#70 » by Raps in 4 » Thu Dec 6, 2018 11:39 pm

Greatest shooter in the history of the game and will end his career as a top-5 player all-time.
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Post#71 » by akeefe03 » Thu Dec 6, 2018 11:39 pm

Usain Bolt doesn't compete in the 50 yard dash at my high school. Does that mean he isn't the fastest man alive? Tiger Woods in his prime didn't take enough putts at my local mini-golf course. What a dumbass argument. Curry is the GOAT shooter. There is literally no debate. Anyone that disagrees simply doesn't like him.
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Post#72 » by SF_Warriors » Thu Dec 6, 2018 11:41 pm

People that say steph is just a shooter are absolutely clueless man. It takes a certain skillset to be able to average 30ppg on over 60% TS, which involves ball handling, finishing at the rim, and shot creation at unprecedented levels. Yall really think korver or reddick can even score on jumpshots the same way steph does? Reddick is not gonna dribble circles around players and shoot a jumper in their face.

There's spot up shooting, running off screens, and off the dribble (single or multiple bounce)..curry has unprecedented ability doing all of those with unprecedented range as well, where guys like even ray allen and reggie can't even match.

I also can't believe people are unable to tell the difference between a great shooter versus one that is regarded as the best that has ever lived.
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Re: Steph Curry is shooting 50% on 10.8 3pt attempts per game, 52% overall 

Post#73 » by Raps in 4 » Thu Dec 6, 2018 11:42 pm

The4thHorseman wrote:
Ice Trae wrote:And to think some people still believe he's not the best shooter to play the game. Insanity.

He's the best "3pt / long distance" shooter to play the game. That's why he chooses to take more 3pa than 2pa. He doesn't take enough shots from various spots inside the arc to say he's the best "shooter" of all time.


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Re: Steph Curry is shooting 50% on 10.8 3pt attempts per game, 52% overall 

Post#74 » by SF_Warriors » Thu Dec 6, 2018 11:45 pm

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The4thHorseman wrote:
Ice Trae wrote:And to think some people still believe he's not the best shooter to play the game. Insanity.

He's the best "3pt / long distance" shooter to play the game. That's why he chooses to take more 3pa than 2pa. He doesn't take enough shots from various spots inside the arc to say he's the best "shooter" of all time.


Possibly the worst post I've ever read on this board, and I've read a lot of bad posts.


That is like saying the best hitter in baseball wouldn't be the best because he has more homeruns than doubles.
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Re: Steph Curry is shooting 50% on 10.8 3pt attempts per game, 52% overall 

Post#75 » by Lyrix » Thu Dec 6, 2018 11:49 pm

Just feel like it needs to be said. This is actually the 5th worst 3pt shooting season for the league in the last 20yrs currently and can easily drop to the worst.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats.html


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Re: Steph Curry is shooting 50% on 10.8 3pt attempts per game, 52% overall 

Post#76 » by SeniorWalker » Thu Dec 6, 2018 11:54 pm

Steph is so fun to watch and it's amazing that he can sustain this level of offense. The hottest ticket in town, in my opinion.

However I cant help but feel these accomplishments have a slight emptiness to them. In the most recent years of modern era basketball, theres just an enormous difference in the amount of open space perimeter oriented players are given to work with. I mean Its incredibly obvious that when you give already uber talented players extra gasoline they will erupt in flames.
I will be completely fine with evaluating players from this era by the standards of their own time, but I dont think I will be able to look back, compare to previous eras, and think it is as impressive because the game is vastly different. It's not fair at all to do so, but the comparisons will still happen anyway and that bothers me a little. The offensive records of this era should be compared to what is yet to come under the same rules and style. The game has changed that much. I guess that's the only downside of witnessing things like this for me.
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Post#77 » by Repeat 3-peat » Thu Dec 6, 2018 11:55 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:Best player in the game


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Re: Steph Curry is shooting 50% on 10.8 3pt attempts per game, 52% overall 

Post#78 » by Hobo4President » Fri Dec 7, 2018 12:03 am

But Ray Allen and Reggie Miller are better shooters
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Post#79 » by Cavsfansince84 » Fri Dec 7, 2018 12:14 am

Its amazing but its still a pretty overall small sample size. I don't expect him to keep this up. Curry has a better chance of keeping it up than any player who ever played but he's only played like 15 games this entire season so far.
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Re: Steph Curry is shooting 50% on 10.8 3pt attempts per game, 52% overall 

Post#80 » by dhsilv2 » Fri Dec 7, 2018 12:19 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
The4thHorseman wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
Why is 10-16ft the only distance being considered mid range? Why isnt 16ft<3 not also being considered? Mid range shots extend past the FT line. And again this idea that Curry doesnt take enough bad shots to be considered the GOAT shooter is a weird argument to make, especially when he takes those shots he is elite at them.

Because anything past 17ft is considered a long 2. If a players foot is on the 3pt line in the act of shooting, then surely you're not going to call that a mid-range shot. It would be considered a long 2, like it's been forever.

I'm not saying that he needs to take more mid-range, just saying he hasn't taken enough in his career to be lumped in with past and present shooters who used the whole floor as part of their arsenal.


No its considered a mid range shot and yes some mid range shots are long 2s. Most places that I can find that say a definition of a mid range shot is a shot outside of the key and inside the 3pt arc. So by their definition a mid range shot is 15ft<3. Ive also seen any 2pt shot that isnt a layup or dunk. Hard to find anywhere that says a mid range shot is basically from the free throw line and in.

Again I just find it a weird premise that Curry is elite everywhere on the court, but just because only 7% of his shots come from 10-16ft, that takes him out of the best shooter conversation. Only 8% of Dirks shots came from 3-10ft. So by your definition he didnt use the whole floor as part of his arsenal, therefore he shouldnt be lumped in with the rest of the elite shooters either, but you lumped him in. KD has had multiple seasons where only 10% or less of his shots came from the 3-10ft range, his career is only 12% of his shots come from that range. Does that take him out of the running as well?


And for anyone wondering. Long twos have always been considered mid range shots...since the dawn of time (well the 3 point line).

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