GT: OKC vs. BKN 12/5/2018: The road to 8-20 begins here

[kamaze]

D-Lo is not a winning player with his poor shot selection, poor awareness and awful defense.

We should look to move him ASAP along with RHJ if the offer is right.

Again, how can we say these things and expect to get value in return???

I am baffled how "D Lo sucks, lets try to get some value" is actually a serious thought

Teams don't trade great players usually, if a player gets traded there's a reason why that team wants to move on usually.

He's an ok player it depends on who they get in the draft and how they do in the free agency.

[MGrand15]

So if LeVert is there getting his 18 to 20, you would pay to see the Nets play?

Because I can guarantee you we would still be losing most of these games. LeVert isn't going to stop 4th quarter defensive collapses. That is not a one man issue.

I mean, I find competitive basketball games to be exciting but each to his own.

When Alpha Dog LeVert comes back and wills us to W after W, I'll be here waiting for your apologies

Bulllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll SH*T !!!


Lets say that The Alpha Dog returns post All star break. Here is our schedule:

60 Thu, Feb 21, 2019 7:30p Portland Trail Blazers
61 Sat, Feb 23, 2019 7:00p @ Charlotte Hornets
62 Mon, Feb 25, 2019 7:30p San Antonio Spurs
63 Wed, Feb 27, 2019 7:30p Washington Wizards
64 Fri, Mar 1, 2019 7:30p Charlotte Hornets
65 Sat, Mar 2, 2019 7:30p @ Miami Heat
66 Mon, Mar 4, 2019 7:30p Dallas Mavericks
67 Wed, Mar 6, 2019 7:30p Cleveland Cavaliers
68 Sat, Mar 9, 2019 7:00p @ Atlanta Hawks
69 Mon, Mar 11, 2019 7:30p Detroit Pistons
70 Wed, Mar 13, 2019 8:00p @ Oklahoma City Thunder
71 Sat, Mar 16, 2019 9:00p @ Utah Jazz
72 Sun, Mar 17, 2019 9:00p @ Los Angeles Clippers
73 Tue, Mar 19, 2019 10:00p @ Sacramento Kings
74 Fri, Mar 22, 2019 10:30p @ Los Angeles Lakers
75 Mon, Mar 25, 2019 10:00p @ Portland Trail Blazers
76 Thu, Mar 28, 2019 7:00p @ Philadelphia 76ers
77 Sat, Mar 30, 2019 6:00p Boston Celtics
78 Mon, Apr 1, 2019 7:30p Milwaukee Bucks
79 Wed, Apr 3, 2019 7:30p Toronto Raptors
80 Sat, Apr 6, 2019 5:00p @ Milwaukee Bucks
81 Sun, Apr 7, 2019 5:00p @ Indiana Pacers
82 Wed, Apr 10, 2019 8:00p Miami Heat

How many games is The God Megalord Supreme Super Saiyan Caris LeVert going to carry his underlings to victory?




in all seriousness, that schedule looks like a one way ticket to Zion Williamson

That schedule looks like EASY WORK for Caris LeGOAT.

Being serious, one way ticket to Zion sounds pretty damn good right now. Just hoping LeVert makes a full recovery and the youngsters keep developing.

I think it's gonna be tough to not see a totally different team by game 60 if we don't step it up though. This ain't a team full of D Leaguers and rookies. If we keep losing, things are gonna get tense internally.

[gigantes]

I think it's gonna be tough to not see a totally different team by game 60 if we don't step it up though. This ain't a team full of D Leaguers and rookies. If we keep losing, things are gonna get tense internally.

Why do you say that, tho?

Their individual goals are a multiplicity of things. The coaching staff has been kicking it. But somehow that isn't enough?

I don't understand how or why you would call yourself "a Nets fan" at this point.

[Paradise]

Read on Twitter

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*looks at Kurucs*

*Looks at Carroll, RHJ, and Dudley*



Kenny is out here tripping balls, man. Balls.

Lol at Crabbe all the way at the bottom of the sea.

[MrDollarBills]

When Alpha Dog LeVert comes back and wills us to W after W, I'll be here waiting for your apologies

Bulllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll SH*T !!!


Lets say that The Alpha Dog returns post All star break. Here is our schedule:

60 Thu, Feb 21, 2019 7:30p Portland Trail Blazers
61 Sat, Feb 23, 2019 7:00p @ Charlotte Hornets
62 Mon, Feb 25, 2019 7:30p San Antonio Spurs
63 Wed, Feb 27, 2019 7:30p Washington Wizards
64 Fri, Mar 1, 2019 7:30p Charlotte Hornets
65 Sat, Mar 2, 2019 7:30p @ Miami Heat
66 Mon, Mar 4, 2019 7:30p Dallas Mavericks
67 Wed, Mar 6, 2019 7:30p Cleveland Cavaliers
68 Sat, Mar 9, 2019 7:00p @ Atlanta Hawks
69 Mon, Mar 11, 2019 7:30p Detroit Pistons
70 Wed, Mar 13, 2019 8:00p @ Oklahoma City Thunder
71 Sat, Mar 16, 2019 9:00p @ Utah Jazz
72 Sun, Mar 17, 2019 9:00p @ Los Angeles Clippers
73 Tue, Mar 19, 2019 10:00p @ Sacramento Kings
74 Fri, Mar 22, 2019 10:30p @ Los Angeles Lakers
75 Mon, Mar 25, 2019 10:00p @ Portland Trail Blazers
76 Thu, Mar 28, 2019 7:00p @ Philadelphia 76ers
77 Sat, Mar 30, 2019 6:00p Boston Celtics
78 Mon, Apr 1, 2019 7:30p Milwaukee Bucks
79 Wed, Apr 3, 2019 7:30p Toronto Raptors
80 Sat, Apr 6, 2019 5:00p @ Milwaukee Bucks
81 Sun, Apr 7, 2019 5:00p @ Indiana Pacers
82 Wed, Apr 10, 2019 8:00p Miami Heat

How many games is The God Megalord Supreme Super Saiyan Caris LeVert going to carry his underlings to victory?




in all seriousness, that schedule looks like a one way ticket to Zion Williamson

That schedule looks like EASY WORK for Caris LeGOAT.

Being serious, one way ticket to Zion sounds pretty damn good right now. Just hoping LeVert makes a full recovery and the youngsters keep developing.

I think it's gonna be tough to not see a totally different team by game 60 if we don't step it up though. This ain't a team full of D Leaguers and rookies. If we keep losing, things are gonna get tense internally.

I don't think the losing will continue like it is now. It's not like we're getting blown out in these games. The team is going to have to figure out how to stop blowing leads and finishing games. However, this slide is pretty much the end of the season, we're not digging ourselves out of a hole this large. But I think they'll turn it around, this losing streak isn't going to get to 12-70 season levels. We need to start beating the teams that we should be beating, that's first and foremost. We had no business losing to Cleveland. I can accept losses to teams like OKC, TOR, etc but we need to start beating non playoff teams at bare minimum. Saturday versus the Knicks would be a good start.

I also don't foresee any wholesale changes, the Nets really have no reason to do so, with the draft being top heavy letting things play out organically is the right way to go. If someone becomes problematic behind the scenes, they can be waived its not like anyone here is locked down longterm outside of LeVert/Allen.

[MrDollarBills]

Russell isn't a bad defender anymore. In 2017 he was. In 2018 he is middle tier on D. He's actually the Nets best on ball defender outside of Joe Harris. Go check his numbers.

Din is next to last in DRPMS.

Spencer is the worst defender on the team. How anyone can remotely attack Russell over defense is not being honest.

This doesn't make any sense because one player is bad at defense another shouldn't be criticized? They're both bad defenders.

Russell's defense is nowhere near as bad as Dinwiddie's. Come on now.

[MrDollarBills]

D-Lo is not a winning player with his poor shot selection, poor awareness and awful defense.

We should look to move him ASAP along with RHJ if the offer is right.

Again, how can we say these things and expect to get value in return???

I am baffled how "D Lo sucks, lets try to get some value" is actually a serious thought

Teams don't trade great players usually, if a player gets traded there's a reason why that team wants to move on usually.

He's an ok player it depends on who they get in the draft and how they do in the free agency.

I agree, I think he's okay. Not perfect, not a star, but an okay player who does really well when he plays next to someone who can let him play off the ball.

[MGrand15]

I think it's gonna be tough to not see a totally different team by game 60 if we don't step it up though. This ain't a team full of D Leaguers and rookies. If we keep losing, things are gonna get tense internally.

Why do you say that, tho?

Their individual goals are a multiplicity of things. The coaching staff has been kicking it. But somehow that isn't enough?

I don't understand how or why you would call yourself "a Nets fan" at this point.

???

The point is you have vets who are trying to stick in the league, vets who don't want to rebuild, and young guys in contract years. All of those guys aren't going to be happy with 28-30 wins even if thats the front office goal.

It's easy to lose and stick together when you're a young team full of rooks, D Leaguers, and cast offs. It's not so easy when guys are trying to earn contracts, guys are tired of losing, etc.

On the front office side, you have a ton of expiring contracts. Guys that you need to try and get some value out of or you lose them for nothing. Plus vets that may get bought out after the trade deadline.

Not sure why my fandom is being questioned.

[JiggaMan06]

PG was 0-14 on GW before that one. IT's only fitting that he hit his first one on us. No excuse to give up a 20+ lead like that. I knew we were gonna lose when Grant hit the corner 3 lol. We have had the same 3 pain points all season (PNR defense, Rebounding, L2M execution). Allen and company could't get a rebound the last 4 mins.

DLO was wrong for his shot clock usage and admitted it. But you have to take in account that he hasn't been accustom to playing in the final minutes so that situation is new to him. He'll learn and get better with crunch time experience.

[Rockice_24]

Again, how can we say these things and expect to get value in return???

I am baffled how "D Lo sucks, lets try to get some value" is actually a serious thought

Teams don't trade great players usually, if a player gets traded there's a reason why that team wants to move on usually.

He's an ok player it depends on who they get in the draft and how they do in the free agency.

I agree, I think he's okay. Not perfect, not a star, but an okay player who does really well when he plays next to someone who can let him play off the ball.

Exactly he has value. Saying he's not a winning player isn't a death sentence for him in the league. I just think he has some big flaws and needs to be put in the right situation where he's running the show as a 6th man or playing the 2 guard with an elite PG where he can spot up and be feed open looks. If he's one of your 3 or 4 best players you are counting on to carry you then most likely you aren't a very good team.

I'd love to do a Fultz for D-Lo swap which would be great for both teams. KA gets a next level talent project and we get out of paying him close to $20M, PHI gets a great 6th man because their depth is awful for their playoff run.

[TheNetsFan]

“I think the Nets would very much like to keep him and keep him long term but again, it’s negotiation,” Wojnarowski said. “It will be at a number — I don’t know what the number is for Brooklyn — but I’m sure they have in their minds a sense of what they’re willing to do and then how does that measure up to what the other options are, what it does to their cap space, what they want to do with D’Angelo Russell.”

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2018/12/woj-nets-have-price-in-mind-for-spencer-dinwiddie.html

Who knows what the team is thinking but Woj believes they want him at a certain number.

Less than or equal to 3 years, $33.4mil, because he's legally allowed to be extend & traded at that price.

If we're planning on keeping him, I think they want him around Harris money. The Nets are going to point to guys like Barton, Smart & VanVleet & rightly say that Dinwiddie should be making a bit less than these guys.

[3pt_chucker]

Anyone want tix to tonight's game?

[kamaze]

Spencer is the worst defender on the team. How anyone can remotely attack Russell over defense is not being honest.

This doesn't make any sense because one player is bad at defense another shouldn't be criticized? They're both bad defenders.

Russell's defense is nowhere near as bad as Dinwiddie's. Come on now.

DLo tries on defense sometimes I'll give him that but overall they both suck on defense.

[kamaze]

Teams don't trade great players usually, if a player gets traded there's a reason why that team wants to move on usually.

He's an ok player it depends on who they get in the draft and how they do in the free agency.

I agree, I think he's okay. Not perfect, not a star, but an okay player who does really well when he plays next to someone who can let him play off the ball.

Exactly he has value. Saying he's not a winning player isn't a death sentence for him in the league. I just think he has some big flaws and needs to be put in the right situation where he's running the show as a 6th man or playing the 2 guard with an elite PG where he can spot up and be feed open looks. If he's one of your 3 or 4 best players you are counting on to carry you then most likely you aren't a very good team.

I'd love to do a Fultz for D-Lo swap which would be great for both teams. KA gets a next level talent project and we get out of paying him close to $20M, PHI gets a great 6th man because their depth is awful for their playoff run.

I don't think that'd be a good trade at all Dlo puts up better numbers than Fultz. D'Angelo is playing about as good as we can expect with his athletic limitations, Markelle seems to have issues with his shot and maybe some mental health issues. Nothing wrong with the latter but it looks like it's holding him back that or he just wants out. Either way I'll pass.

The only reason to do the trade would be to get out of paying D'Angelo and the team has the money to spend I'm just not sure he's worth paying. He's restricted so if they choose they can just match any offer he gets. I doubt he'll get a big offer bt you never know.

[kamaze]

“I think the Nets would very much like to keep him and keep him long term but again, it’s negotiation,” Wojnarowski said. “It will be at a number — I don’t know what the number is for Brooklyn — but I’m sure they have in their minds a sense of what they’re willing to do and then how does that measure up to what the other options are, what it does to their cap space, what they want to do with D’Angelo Russell.”

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2018/12/woj-nets-have-price-in-mind-for-spencer-dinwiddie.html

Who knows what the team is thinking but Woj believes they want him at a certain number.

Less than or equal to 3 years, $33.4mil, because he's legally allowed to be extend & traded at that price.

If we're planning on keeping him, I think they want him around Harris money. The Nets are going to point to guys like Barton, Smart & VanVleet & rightly say that Dinwiddie should be making a bit less than these guys.

I think he's looking to get paid I'd like to keep him but that's on Sean Marks.

[NYCair718]

Anyone want tix to tonight's game?

im definitely interested

[MrDollarBills]

PG was 0-14 on GW before that one. IT's only fitting that he hit his first one on us. No excuse to give up a 20+ lead like that. I knew we were gonna lose when Grant hit the corner 3 lol. We have had the same 3 pain points all season (PNR defense, Rebounding, L2M execution). Allen and company could't get a rebound the last 4 mins.

DLO was wrong for his shot clock usage and admitted it. But you have to take in account that he hasn't been accustom to playing in the final minutes so that situation is new to him. He'll learn and get better with crunch time experience.

I don't get why he is being killed for that shot. It was a bad decision yes but frankly the Nets had dug their own graves by giving up a 20 point lead.

[MrDollarBills]

Teams don't trade great players usually, if a player gets traded there's a reason why that team wants to move on usually.

He's an ok player it depends on who they get in the draft and how they do in the free agency.

I agree, I think he's okay. Not perfect, not a star, but an okay player who does really well when he plays next to someone who can let him play off the ball.

Exactly he has value. Saying he's not a winning player isn't a death sentence for him in the league. I just think he has some big flaws and needs to be put in the right situation where he's running the show as a 6th man or playing the 2 guard with an elite PG where he can spot up and be feed open looks. If he's one of your 3 or 4 best players you are counting on to carry you then most likely you aren't a very good team.

I'd love to do a Fultz for D-Lo swap which would be great for both teams. KA gets a next level talent project and we get out of paying him close to $20M, PHI gets a great 6th man because their depth is awful for their playoff run.

I don't want any more of the Sixers' trash.

[gigantes]

I think it's gonna be tough to not see a totally different team by game 60 if we don't step it up though. This ain't a team full of D Leaguers and rookies. If we keep losing, things are gonna get tense internally.

Why do you say that, tho?

Their individual goals are a multiplicity of things. The coaching staff has been kicking it. But somehow that isn't enough?

I don't understand how or why you would call yourself "a Nets fan" at this point.

???

The point is you have vets who are trying to stick in the league, vets who don't want to rebuild, and young guys in contract years. All of those guys aren't going to be happy with 28-30 wins even if thats the front office goal.

It's easy to lose and stick together when you're a young team full of rooks, D Leaguers, and cast offs. It's not so easy when guys are trying to earn contracts, guys are tired of losing, etc.

On the front office side, you have a ton of expiring contracts. Guys that you need to try and get some value out of or you lose them for nothing. Plus vets that may get bought out after the trade deadline.

Not sure why my fandom is being questioned.

All apologies, MGrand15. I was in a different place last night and shouldn't have been posting here.

Lately I've been frustrated with the overall fan frustration, but that's no excuse for questioning yours or anyone else's fandom. Sorry again for that bit of idiocy. :/

[MGrand15]

Why do you say that, tho?

Their individual goals are a multiplicity of things. The coaching staff has been kicking it. But somehow that isn't enough?

I don't understand how or why you would call yourself "a Nets fan" at this point.

???

The point is you have vets who are trying to stick in the league, vets who don't want to rebuild, and young guys in contract years. All of those guys aren't going to be happy with 28-30 wins even if thats the front office goal.

It's easy to lose and stick together when you're a young team full of rooks, D Leaguers, and cast offs. It's not so easy when guys are trying to earn contracts, guys are tired of losing, etc.

On the front office side, you have a ton of expiring contracts. Guys that you need to try and get some value out of or you lose them for nothing. Plus vets that may get bought out after the trade deadline.

Not sure why my fandom is being questioned.

All apologies, MGrand15. I was in a different place last night and shouldn't have been posting here.

Lately I've been frustrated with the overall fan frustration, but that's no excuse for questioning yours or anyone else's fandom. Sorry again for that bit of idiocy. :/

It's all good man. I could see how my original post came off harsh. We all jab at each other here at times but it's all love.