Steph Curry is shooting 50% on 10.8 3pt attempts per game, 52% overall

[ChartFiction]

Already the 2nd greatest point guard of all time. Deniers of this are worse than flat earthers.

[Yogatti]

Curry is in his Super Saiyan 3 mode rn. Gunning for that 3rd MVP

[Ugalde]

Would be a lot cooler if he wasn't on a team with Kevin Durant.

[the_dinks]

And to think some people still believe he's not the best shooter to play the game. Insanity.

He's the best "3pt / long distance" shooter to play the game. That's why he chooses to take more 3pa than 2pa. He doesn't take enough shots from various spots inside the arc to say he's the best "shooter" of all time.

Then who is, genius?

[Flash Falcon X]

Sad thing is NBA is just making it easier for good shooter. But still gotta give credits. He's having incredible season.

You do know Steph gets grabbed on every possession, right? He won two MVPs while being grabbed on every off-ball possession and most of the time the refs don't call it.

It started in 2013 when Denver had a gameplay to rough up Steph every time he's running without the ball. They realized the refs don't see/call those fouls most of the time so they kept going with it.

As Steph started to become a star after 2013, that's been the gameplan for a lot of teams. Warriors fans complained about it for years, but Steph kept winning MVPs despite it. Before 2016, Steph would have the least respect from referees for a star despite always trying to initiate contact in the paint. People complain that Steph exaggerates contact on his threes but even when he does get hit it's never a foul.

This season is the first season the NBA finally told refs to start calling the right calls. People keep saying it's a "rule change," but if I'm not mistaken, grabbing a player should be a foul. Hence, point of emphasis.

[Flash Falcon X]

The amazing thing is that Steph is doing this in Steve Kerr’s team-oriented offense.

Steve Kerr hates isolations. Steve Kerr hates if a player dribbles a lot. He dislikes the pick-and-roll as well.

Imagine if Steph was in D’antoni’s offense. And if he actually had to play 4th quarters. He’d probably average 35ppg on elite efficiency still.

2016 Steph averaged 30ppg while sitting out a majority of 4th quarters. He killed teams in only 3 quarters. In fact, he averaged the fewest MPG of any scoring champ. Shame he got injured in those 2016 Playoffs.

[Cavsfansince84]

The amazing thing is that Steph is doing this in Steve Kerr’s team-oriented offense.

Steve Kerr hates isolations. Steve Kerr hates if a player dribbles a lot. He dislikes the pick-and-roll as well.

Imagine if Steph was in D’antoni’s offense. And if he actually had to play 4th quarters. He’d probably average 35ppg on elite efficiency still.

2016 Steph averaged 30ppg while sitting out a majority of 4th quarters. He killed teams in only 3 quarters. In fact, he averaged the fewest MPG of any scoring champ. Shame he got injured in those 2016 Playoffs.

He'd probably be injured even more also and be worse in the playoffs.

[JellosJigglin]

He's pretty good.

[The4thHorseman]

Why is 10-16ft the only distance being considered mid range? Why isnt 16ft<3 not also being considered? Mid range shots extend past the FT line. And again this idea that Curry doesnt take enough bad shots to be considered the GOAT shooter is a weird argument to make, especially when he takes those shots he is elite at them.

Because anything past 17ft is considered a long 2. If a players foot is on the 3pt line in the act of shooting, then surely you're not going to call that a mid-range shot. It would be considered a long 2, like it's been forever.

I'm not saying that he needs to take more mid-range, just saying he hasn't taken enough in his career to be lumped in with past and present shooters who used the whole floor as part of their arsenal.

No its considered a mid range shot and yes some mid range shots are long 2s. Most places that I can find that say a definition of a mid range shot is a shot outside of the key and inside the 3pt arc. So by their definition a mid range shot is 15ft<3. Ive also seen any 2pt shot that isnt a layup or dunk. Hard to find anywhere that says a mid range shot is basically from the free throw line and in.

Again I just find it a weird premise that Curry is elite everywhere on the court, but just because only 7% of his shots come from 10-16ft, that takes him out of the best shooter conversation. Only 8% of Dirks shots came from 3-10ft. So by your definition he didnt use the whole floor as part of his arsenal, therefore he shouldnt be lumped in with the rest of the elite shooters either, but you lumped him in. KD has had multiple seasons where only 10% or less of his shots came from the 3-10ft range, his career is only 12% of his shots come from that range. Does that take him out of the running as well?

How can one of the measuring barometers (the 3pt line) of the mid-range shot be considered a mid-range shot?? Why does the term "long 2" even exist if a 20 footer or a foot on the 3pt line line is consider mid-range??

Here's how 82games.com breaks down the distances when they were figuring out what wins in terms of shot selection distances

Here is how we split up the shots:
Non-Measured - a certain percentage (around 8%) of shots did not get measured.

Close Shots - the smorgasboard of close-in action, including dunks, layups, tips, etc.
6 to 11 feet - what we are referring to as Short Two's
12 to 17 feet - perhaps the true mid-range shot distance
18 to the three point line - aka Long Two's
3 Point Shots - the shots from behind the line

http://www.82games.com/comm51.htm

As far as Dirk and KD go, they shoot more 2pa than they do 3pa. They're money from just about anywhere on the floor, (including crazy turnaround fadeaways etc) to where it's the opposite with Steph. He shoots more 3pa than 2pa. He does so because he's money outside the arc. But from 3-16ft, he just hasn't shot enough from there in his career to be comfortable taking those shots. You would think he'd take more mid-range when they have blowout games to show his arsenal and that he's not just a 3pt shooter. Like with MJ. I consider him the greatest shooter inside the arc cause he proved (with high efficiancy) he could hit from anywhere inside the arc. Yet when it came to 3pa ,he barely took any cause he knew (for the most part) it was outside his range.

[clyde21]

The amazing thing is that Steph is doing this in Steve Kerr’s team-oriented offense.

Steve Kerr hates isolations. Steve Kerr hates if a player dribbles a lot. He dislikes the pick-and-roll as well.

Imagine if Steph was in D’antoni’s offense. And if he actually had to play 4th quarters. He’d probably average 35ppg on elite efficiency still.

2016 Steph averaged 30ppg while sitting out a majority of 4th quarters. He killed teams in only 3 quarters. In fact, he averaged the fewest MPG of any scoring champ. Shame he got injured in those 2016 Playoffs.

He'd probably be injured even more also and be worse in the playoffs.

Neither of his big injuries happened because of overuse. In 2016 it was because he slipped on a wet spot in Houston, and last season it was because McGee jumped in the air like a turd and landed on his knee. Both MCLs that lingered in the POs were freaky injuries.

Btw -- under Mark Jackson Steph played a lot more on-ball, and averaged 24/8, and that was pre prime Curry.

[dhsilv2]

The amazing thing is that Steph is doing this in Steve Kerr’s team-oriented offense.

Steve Kerr hates isolations. Steve Kerr hates if a player dribbles a lot. He dislikes the pick-and-roll as well.

Imagine if Steph was in D’antoni’s offense. And if he actually had to play 4th quarters. He’d probably average 35ppg on elite efficiency still.

2016 Steph averaged 30ppg while sitting out a majority of 4th quarters. He killed teams in only 3 quarters. In fact, he averaged the fewest MPG of any scoring champ. Shame he got injured in those 2016 Playoffs.

He'd probably be injured even more also and be worse in the playoffs.

Neither of his big injuries happened because of overuse. In 2016 it was because he slipped on a wet spot in Houston, and last season it was because McGee jumped in the air like a turd and landed on his knee. Both MCLs that lingered in the POs were freaky injuries.

Btw -- under Mark Jackson Steph played a lot more on-ball, and averaged 24 points with 8 assists.

Having the ball in his hands MORE would likely reduce the wear and tear that running around screens is causing him in all honesty.

[clyde21]

He'd probably be injured even more also and be worse in the playoffs.

Neither of his big injuries happened because of overuse. In 2016 it was because he slipped on a wet spot in Houston, and last season it was because McGee jumped in the air like a turd and landed on his knee. Both MCLs that lingered in the POs were freaky injuries.

Btw -- under Mark Jackson Steph played a lot more on-ball, and averaged 24 points with 8 assists.

Having the ball in his hands MORE would likely reduce the wear and tear that running around screens is causing him in all honesty.

Yup...gets WAY more wear and tear running around and thru screens all game long under Kerr.

[Antinomy]

People that say steph is just a shooter are absolutely clueless man. It takes a certain skillset to be able to average 30ppg on over 60% TS, which involves ball handling, finishing at the rim, and shot creation at unprecedented levels. Yall really think korver or reddick can even score on jumpshots the same way steph does? Reddick is not gonna dribble circles around players and shoot a jumper in their face.

There's spot up shooting, running off screens, and off the dribble (single or multiple bounce)..curry has unprecedented ability doing all of those with unprecedented range as well, where guys like even ray allen and reggie can't even match.

I also can't believe people are unable to tell the difference between a great shooter versus one that is regarded as the best that has ever lived.

I think Curry’s the best shooter too but I think you should pump the brakes just a bit.

Maybe you don’t remember Ray but he had tremendous range, could cross you up & pull up from 3, plus he could take it to the rim.

He just didn’t have the green light to fire up 3s the way they do now & played in different defensive era.

[dynamic duo]

one of the goat regular season players but he has been average when the going gets tough and when games matter the most, he needs his iggys and durant's of the world to save him in the playoffs. iggy saved him in 2015, klay saved him in 2016 prior to the finals and the 2016 finals choke was so bad that even his teammates couldn't help him there. had to recruit another top 3 player in the world to his 73-9 win team to get over and past lebron and his janitors.

[Duke4life831]

Because anything past 17ft is considered a long 2. If a players foot is on the 3pt line in the act of shooting, then surely you're not going to call that a mid-range shot. It would be considered a long 2, like it's been forever.

I'm not saying that he needs to take more mid-range, just saying he hasn't taken enough in his career to be lumped in with past and present shooters who used the whole floor as part of their arsenal.

No its considered a mid range shot and yes some mid range shots are long 2s. Most places that I can find that say a definition of a mid range shot is a shot outside of the key and inside the 3pt arc. So by their definition a mid range shot is 15ft<3. Ive also seen any 2pt shot that isnt a layup or dunk. Hard to find anywhere that says a mid range shot is basically from the free throw line and in.

Again I just find it a weird premise that Curry is elite everywhere on the court, but just because only 7% of his shots come from 10-16ft, that takes him out of the best shooter conversation. Only 8% of Dirks shots came from 3-10ft. So by your definition he didnt use the whole floor as part of his arsenal, therefore he shouldnt be lumped in with the rest of the elite shooters either, but you lumped him in. KD has had multiple seasons where only 10% or less of his shots came from the 3-10ft range, his career is only 12% of his shots come from that range. Does that take him out of the running as well?

How can one of the measuring barometers (the 3pt line) of the mid-range shot be considered a mid-range shot?? Why does the term "long 2" even exist if a 20 footer or a foot on the 3pt line line is consider mid-range??

Here's how 82games.com breaks down the distances when they were figuring out what wins in terms of shot selection distances

Here is how we split up the shots:
Non-Measured - a certain percentage (around 8%) of shots did not get measured.

Close Shots - the smorgasboard of close-in action, including dunks, layups, tips, etc.
6 to 11 feet - what we are referring to as Short Two's
12 to 17 feet - perhaps the true mid-range shot distance
18 to the three point line - aka Long Two's
3 Point Shots - the shots from behind the line

http://www.82games.com/comm51.htm

As far as Dirk and KD go, they shoot more 2pa than they do 3pa. They're money from just about anywhere on the floor, (including crazy turnaround fadeaways etc) to where it's the opposite with Steph. He shoots more 3pa than 2pa. He does so because he's money outside the arc. But from 3-16ft, he just hasn't shot enough from there in his career to be comfortable taking those shots. You would think he'd take more mid-range when they have blowout games to show his arsenal and that he's not just a 3pt shooter. Like with MJ. I consider him the greatest shooter inside the arc cause he proved (with high efficiancy) he could hit from anywhere inside the arc. Yet when it came to 3pa ,he barely took any cause he knew (for the most part) it was outside his range.

Its just describing the kind of mid range shot. They track deep 3s now, that doesnt mean a deep 3 isnt a 3pt shot, its just a subcategory of a 3pt shot. Just like they track catch and shoot 3s and pull up 3s, but theyre still considered 3s.

When it comes to the Dirk and KD thing. Youre just moving goal posts now. First it was 7% of his shots from a certain distance wasnt a big enough sample, once it gets known Dirk has an almost identical % from another spot on the floor and KD is close, its now that KD and Dirk shoot more 2pa than 3pa. But even by that distinction that wouldnt eliminate Curry because Curry has attempted over 700 more 2pa than 3pa in his career. And also now instead of using 10-16ft which you started off saying, now youre saying 3-16ft is the barometer. Youre really moving the goalposts on this one, its hard to keep up with the new requirements that youre setting.

And to say Curry isnt comfortable enough with those shots is crazy to say. They just are the worst shots for him to take, not because that is his least skilled area, its just because 10-16ft are the worst shots to take in general. And if he were more comfortable with them he would show it off during blowouts? Really?

[clyde21]

one of the goat regular season players but he has been average when the going gets tough and when games matter the most, he needs his iggys and durant's of the world to save him in the playoffs. iggy saved him in 2015, klay saved him in 2016 prior to the finals and the 2016 finals choke was so bad that even his teammates couldn't help him there. had to recruit another top 3 player in the world to his 73-9 win team to get over and past lebron and his janitors.

Yup, just like how LeBron needed Kyrie to hit the game winning shot to win in '16 and to collude in Miami with the other two best players in the East to win his first two.

[Duke4life831]

one of the goat regular season players but he has been average when the going gets tough and when games matter the most, he needs his iggys and durant's of the world to save him in the playoffs. iggy saved him in 2015, klay saved him in 2016 prior to the finals and the 2016 finals choke was so bad that even his teammates couldn't help him there. had to recruit another top 3 player in the world to his 73-9 win team to get over and past lebron and his janitors.

Curry is 4th all time in playoff career BPM. Curry's career playoff numbers

26/5/6 on 45/41/89 shooting, 60 TS%, .196 WS/48 and 7.4 BPM

Also LeBron and his janitors?

Kyrie's finals numbers

29/4/4 on 47/42/90 shooting (2017 finals)

27/4/4 on 47/40/94 shooting (2016 finals)

[Repeat 3-peat]

one of the goat regular season players but he has been average when the going gets tough and when games matter the most, he needs his iggys and durant's of the world to save him in the playoffs. iggy saved him in 2015, klay saved him in 2016 prior to the finals and the 2016 finals choke was so bad that even his teammates couldn't help him there. had to recruit another top 3 player in the world to his 73-9 win team to get over and past lebron and his janitors.

Curry is 4th all time in playoff career BPM. Curry's career playoff numbers

26/5/6 on 45/41/89 shooting, 60 TS%, .196 WS/48 and 7.4 BPM

Also LeBron and his janitors?

Kyrie's finals numbers

29/4/4 on 47/42/90 shooting (2017 finals)

27/4/4 on 47/40/94 shooting (2016 finals)

Kyrie was a monster in those finals. I chuckle when I hear the excuses for LeBron.

[clyde21]

one of the goat regular season players but he has been average when the going gets tough and when games matter the most, he needs his iggys and durant's of the world to save him in the playoffs. iggy saved him in 2015, klay saved him in 2016 prior to the finals and the 2016 finals choke was so bad that even his teammates couldn't help him there. had to recruit another top 3 player in the world to his 73-9 win team to get over and past lebron and his janitors.

Curry is 4th all time in playoff career BPM. Curry's career playoff numbers

26/5/6 on 45/41/89 shooting, 60 TS%, .196 WS/48 and 7.4 BPM

Also LeBron and his janitors?

Kyrie's finals numbers

29/4/4 on 47/42/90 shooting (2017 finals)

27/4/4 on 47/40/94 shooting (2016 finals)

I'm just wondering, all this time in the East for LeBron, who was the 2nd best player in the conference?

Was it D-Wade, who was LeBron's teammate? Or maybe Kyrie, who was also LeBron's teammate? Maybe Bosh or Love? Oh, also both LeBron's teammates.

Let's completely disregard the fact that LeBron colluded in the East TWICE to monopolize that conference in order to win his rings, and focus on Durant wanting to play with Steph instead.

[clyde21]

one of the goat regular season players but he has been average when the going gets tough and when games matter the most, he needs his iggys and durant's of the world to save him in the playoffs. iggy saved him in 2015, klay saved him in 2016 prior to the finals and the 2016 finals choke was so bad that even his teammates couldn't help him there. had to recruit another top 3 player in the world to his 73-9 win team to get over and past lebron and his janitors.

Curry is 4th all time in playoff career BPM. Curry's career playoff numbers

26/5/6 on 45/41/89 shooting, 60 TS%, .196 WS/48 and 7.4 BPM

Also LeBron and his janitors?

Kyrie's finals numbers

29/4/4 on 47/42/90 shooting (2017 finals)

27/4/4 on 47/40/94 shooting (2016 finals)

Kyrie was a monster in those finals. I chuckle when I hear the excuses for LeBron.

That's literally all what the LeBron groupies do now. Just talk **** about his teammates. Literally every single LeBron thread or discussion about LeBron devolves into this nonsense.