Delly, Henson, 1st/2nd and Rodzilla for Hill/Dekker - Dekker to Wiz For Smith/Second POLL ADDED

VooDoo7 · Post #341 » by **VooDoo7** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:43 am

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VooDoo7 wrote:
Mags FTW wrote:
“Is that all?”

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LuessiT · Post #342 » by **LuessiT** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:44 am

Okay so I did some math.

Case 1
So if from here on out we do nothing, resign Middleton to the max, resign Bledsoe to lets say 18m and Brogdon to 15m, cut Hill (means we pay the 1m guarantee) we end up 5.5m below the luxury tax. Meaning we can bring back everyone but Lopez and maybe even Lopez depending how much he wants. If you use more conservative numbers (e.g. let another team cut Hill for cash) we might even have the full MLE for Lopez.

Case 2
If we renounce one of Bledsoe or Middleton but keep the other's cap hold, we end up with roughly 20-25m in cap space. Meaning we'd have a max slot available with a bit of work (e.g. using our pick this year to move Snell), possibly even the 35% max, WHILE retaining Brogdon's rights. So we'd have access to Giannis, MAX player, Bledsoe or Middleton, Brogdon and a bunch of the remaining roster. And then the tax MLE for Lopez.

Case 3
If we renounce both we end up with 44m in cap space. Clearly enough space for a 35% max FA but even with dropping Snell not enough room for 2.

Case 4
If we trade for Beal (or any star making close to 30m in 2019/20) with either Bledsoe or Middleton or both and move Snell, Ersan, Thon and Wilson together with our first, we have a 35% max slot while together with that star.

Nowak008 · Post #343 » by **Nowak008** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:45 am

Who is the happiest from this deal? Bledsoe/Brogs/Mids?

Coach Carter · Post #344 » by **Coach Carter** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:45 am

i have so many qns

BroncoBuck · Post #345 » by **BroncoBuck** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:45 am

DJ Wilson aside, Horst has killed it since he was named GM. Is this his John Hammond EOTY season???

JayMKE · Post #346 » by **JayMKE** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:46 am

Zeller and Smith are both 7 foot tall white guys, checks out

pack15412 · Post #347 » by **pack15412** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:46 am

kid idioteque wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:
kid idioteque wrote:
Is that what I said?

Well you said you didn't want us to include picks to dump salary. There's really only one other way to do it, add a cheap asset like Brogdon. So if you didn't want to keep their salary how would YOU dump those contracts? Adding picks or assets?

I just think jubilance over a deal that fixes a problem we created for ourselves is excessive. An "A" should be reserved for a straight up swindling.

I'm okay giving this deal something in the B range.

Bucks gonna Buck. That's how we roll. Crap move, recover. Kinda been the cycle around here. Let's hope they break the wheel and actually use the flexibility well. In other words, Jon Horst needs to be Daenerys Targaryen.

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Coach Carter · Post #348 » by **Coach Carter** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:46 am

can hill pass? Because we could use a good passing pg for the pick n roll with giannis

BroncoBuck · Post #349 » by **BroncoBuck** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:46 am

Nowak008 wrote:Who is the happiest from this deal? Bledsoe/Brogs/Mids?

All of the above. Each guy plays more at their natural position, Bledsoe gets a legitimate backup so he can rest a bit more.

Post #350 » by **humanrefutation** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:48 am

Jason Smith will give us more production than Sam, IMO. Neither is good, but at least Jason can bang in the post. Gives us some extra Thon insurance.

msiris · Post #351 » by **msiris** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:51 am

Still do not want to pay Midds anything over 20 Mil

Bernman · Post #352 » by **Bernman** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:54 am

emunney wrote:Dekker for Dedmon definitely doesn't work.

If you package it does. Easier to do that than make the talent exchange commensurate after conceding some.

JayMKE · Post #353 » by **JayMKE** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:56 am

I don't really care about not keeping Dekker, it's just ughhhhh you get young hometown kid you've been a fan of and he's gone. :-(

Hopefully Bud can get something out of Jason Smith other's haven't. Didn't even think about Thon at first but Wood should play ahead of Thon anyways!

Maybe it is possible to get somebody to take Snell off our hands yet too, if somebody would take Delly then somebody has to be willing to take Snell who isn't a total walking corpse on the court. We'd have room to keep everybody and then another big time player I think?

Coach Carter · Post #354 » by **Coach Carter** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:57 am

Giannis will be around 26 in 2021, entering his prime, thus that first rounder will late first

ANTETOKOUNBROS · Post #355 » by **ANTETOKOUNBROS** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:58 am

We traded Dekker to Washington

Coach Carter · Post #356 » by **Coach Carter** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 1:59 am

can someone explain hill's contract? What's guaranteed?

Post #357 » by **Prez** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 2:01 am

Coach Carter wrote:can someone explain hill's contract? What's guaranteed?

Only $1 mil is guaranteed next season until July 1st, when it becomes guaranteed for the full $18 mil.

LuessiT · Post #358 » by **LuessiT** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 2:02 am

JayMKE wrote:
kid idioteque wrote:
LittleRooster wrote:I am sad about losing Dekker

Don't let your UW fandom cloud your judgment. He's not an NBA player.

(Also I dislike him for off the court reasons but that's neither here nor there.)

Neither is Jason Smith tho

That second rounder might be.

LuessiT · Post #359 » by **LuessiT** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 2:02 am

Prez wrote:
Coach Carter wrote:can someone explain hill's contract? What's guaranteed?

Only $1 mil is guaranteed next season until July 1st, when it becomes guaranteed for the full $18 mil.

And you're going to find tons of teams ready to cut Hill for cash.

Post #360 » by **ReasonablySober** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 2:03 am

ANTETOKOUNBROS wrote:We traded Dekker to Washington

I don't believe you.

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