Delly, Henson, 1st/2nd and Rodzilla for Hill/Dekker - Dekker to Wiz For Smith/Second POLL ADDED

[HaroldinGMinor]

So Gery still has enough connects to accurately predict Delly to the Cavs.

No. He basically guessed that Delly might get traded to his old team. It was a good guess.

[ShootingtheJ]

Oh, I likey the 2020 2nd from the Wiz. Given their current status, that might be early 2nd.

We already owned that one. Protected 46-60. So we're either afraid that the pick ends up 47th and we're missing out on it or we really value Smith...

The protection was removed so the Wizards could trade their 2021 2nd round pick, which we get for taking Smith's contact.

Just an outstanding move.

[bizarro]

I’m with the “wait and see what we do with the space and subsequent deals” group on this one. We’re adding two more average at best players to an suddenly crowded rotation. Hopefully we have something big planned for the deadline.

Me too. I am pretty elated to get out from under the Delly and Henny contracts. Hill and Smith are very ‘meh’ to me given where they are at in their careers. BUT, they now have a lot of flexibility in terms of deals and targets. What they do with this flexibility is now all that really matters.

[LUKE23]

Hill and Smith aren't world beaters, but they are better than Delly and Henson for this year, and we clear $19.1M for next year. Hill has shot 40+% from 3 three of the last four years and is .384 career. Smith is a solid three point shooter recently.

What this allows us to do is maintain a cap hold on Middleton or Brogdon while still offering a max contract. That's big. It also opens up trade opportunities for salary dumps from other teams.

[TroyD92]

Oh, I likey the 2020 2nd from the Wiz. Given their current status, that might be early 2nd.

We already owned that one. Protected 46-60. So we're either afraid that the pick ends up 47th and we're missing out on it or we really value Smith...

The protection was removed so the Wizards could trade their 2021 2nd round pick, which we get for taking Smith's contact.

Just an outstanding move.

So we have their unprotected 2nds for 2020 and 21?

[Aaron It Out]

I feel like this might be a precursor to a Middleton/Brogdon deal. I wouldn't be surprised if they were quietly dangling those two out there.

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[ReasonablySober]

Next day and I'm still in the warming glow of this deal. Like, just enjoying some spotify and tea and thinking about what an wonderful trade this was.

[raferfenix]

Much easier to imagine the Bucks making a heavy-hitter offer for a star player now.

A consolidation trade also would have the added benefit of opening up additional cap space.

Conceivable to see Kemba, Lillard, Beal, or even Anthony Davis put on the block in the not too distant future.

[JayMKE]

I feel like this might be a precursor to a Middleton/Brogdon deal. I wouldn't be surprised if they were quietly dangling those two out there.

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Trading dead weight like Delly/injured Henson is one thing but they're not going to blow up the whole team, clearly the team is trying to compete this season. Losing a crap game to GS doesn't change that. Only way I could see it is for a guy that puts us over the top this year.

[HaroldinGMinor]

Kind of crazy that such a complex three team trade actually ends up working pretty well for all parties involved.

[Aaron It Out]

I feel like this might be a precursor to a Middleton/Brogdon deal. I wouldn't be surprised if they were quietly dangling those two out there.

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Trading dead weight like Delly/injured Henson is one thing but they're not going to blow up the whole team, clearly the team is trying to compete this season. Losing a crap game to GS doesn't change that. Only way I could see it is for a guy that puts us over the top this year.

It would definitely be a win now type of move. It would have to be to a team that wants the bird rights for those two. People say the Beal trade doesn't make sense for Washington but it does it they want to be able to make a run for a FA and still re-sign one or both of them. I don't know what their cap looks like and someone else mentioned that it's pretty hard to match the salaries.

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[TroyD92]

I feel like this might be a precursor to a Middleton/Brogdon deal. I wouldn't be surprised if they were quietly dangling those two out there.

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Trading dead weight like Delly/injured Henson is one thing but they're not going to blow up the whole team, clearly the team is trying to compete this season. Losing a crap game to GS doesn't change that. Only way I could see it is for a guy that puts us over the top this year.

It would definitely be a win now type of move. It would have to be to a team that wants the bird rights for those two. People say the Beal trade doesn't make sense for Washington but it does it they want to be able to make a run for a FA and still re-sign one or both of them. I don't know what their cap looks like and someone else mentioned that it's pretty hard to match the salaries.

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They are basically screwed. I haven't looked into it too much, but Wall is going to make like 38 million, Porter 26, and Mahimi 15.

[bizarro]

Though, I am in the Incomplete camp, I have to give this trade an 'A'. It just rids the team of albatrosses and handcuffing contracts, it more than likely improves the team slightly this season, it provides quite a bit more flexibility mid to long term, and it affords an opportunity to package expirings in a bigger deal for significantly better players. That's just an 'A' any way you look at it. NOW, what they do with the flexibility and how they execute is an entirely different conversation. Hopefully, it's a good one!

[wco81]

I feel like this might be a precursor to a Middleton/Brogdon deal. I wouldn't be surprised if they were quietly dangling those two out there.

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Those are two of the best 3-point shooters on the team.

I thought they were opening up cap space with this trade in order to be in a position to retain them?

As well as either Bledsoe or Hill?

And maybe Lopez?

Are the Bucks selling out the new stadium? Would be tough if they have revenues concerns and Giannis is on a reasonable contract until the 2021-22 season.

[Nowak008]

If Horst gets KD here, I'll build him a statue myself with my bare hands.

And I will blow up that statue.

[Nowak008]

Next day and I'm still in the warming glow of this deal. Like, just enjoying some spotify and tea and thinking about what an wonderful trade this was.

Best in the moment trade since ive been posting on here I think? Plumlee trade is probably the other one.

[hege53190]

I doubt it but I you probably understand the game better than me so maybe that's the case.

You don't think a smart combo guard who is a 40% shooter from three helps this team?

I mean maybe we aren't getting Indy George Hill at this stage in his career but he is a surefire contributor.

I don't like his defense last couple of years, he got bounced around the league a little bit and he's on the wrong side of thirty so my gut feel is that he's kinda given up a little bit. And I dont' see Bledsoe giving up any of his 30 mins and Brogdon plays some PG too so not sure how much room there is for a back up PG to contribute actual wins.

Sterling Brown, Pat Connaughton, and Tony Snell played a combined 59 minutes against the Warriros. There are plenty of minutes available on the Bucks if a player is playing well.

[craig]

..So we have their unprotected 2nds for 2020 and 21?

That's my understanding, but I'd also like to re-ask this question, and get double-confirmation from better-informed posters!!

That's really the deal, we have both their 20 and 21 2nd-round picks, and both unconditional?

[MAC1987]

1st
2019 - 1-3 and 17-30 Own; 4-16 to PHX
2020 - 1-7 Own; 8-30 to PHX if not already settled
2021 - To PHX if not already settled
2022 - Own
2023 - Own
2024 - Own
2025 - Own

2nd
2019 - More favorable of MIL and SAC to PHL then other to SAC (via PHL swap of MIL for SAC (via BRK)); DEN 56-60
2020 - Own; WAS 31-45
2021 - Own
2022 - Own; WAS if not already settled
2023 - Own
2024 - Own


Breaking down the three-team trade

Bucks get:
G George Hill
F Jason Smith
2021 second-round pick (from Wizards)
Cavs get:
G Matthew Dellavedova
C John Henson
2021 first-, second-round picks (from Bucks)
2022 second-round pick (from Wizards)
Wizards get:
F Sam Dekker
2021 second-round pick (from Cavs


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[H2tObes]

I will actually miss Henson. Not for the player but the person, 7 years a Buck! Seemed like he really embraced Milwaukee and was an amazing ambassador for Chipotle. Best of luck to you J Hook, may your burritos be fat and your worries be reserved in your right hand