Delly, Henson, 1st/2nd and Rodzilla for Hill/Dekker - Dekker to Wiz For Smith/Second POLL ADDED

[RiotPunch]

How is expecting him to be a useful bench player having too high a hope for him? No one is expecting Pacers stud George Hill.

Never said they were? It's a way and see approach really. We aren't even sure if he can be last years Cavs George Hill useful.

Obviously we need another star eventually or every single move we've made doesn't mean anything. But this trade makes it easier for us to make another trade this year, sign someone in the offseason, or make a trade next year. It's not going to happen instantly.

Right. It also makes it easier for us to stay under the luxury tax when we bring the band back together. That scenario feels much more likely than creating flexibility to add another star.

This my feeling too until proven otherwise.

[trwi7]

So LED have utilized the following #1 picks since buying the team:

2014 #2 overall
2015 #17
2016 #10
2017 #17
2018 #17
Bucks 2020 pick (likely - Suns)
Bucks 2022 pick (likely - Cavs)
LAC 2017 #1 - 22nd overall

That's eight number ones boys. And we have to show for it:
Eric Bledsoe
Thon
DJ Wilson
Donte
George Hill
Jason Smith

They are so close to getting rid of all of Larry Harris' mistakes though.

[blazza18]

Bledsoe is the only player on that list who'd be considered a top 10 player for his position. What a complete dumpster fire. And yet people defended Hammond/will defend his disciple.

[buckboy]

And we still owe Mirza 9 million bucks.

Good GM though. EOTY.

[curmudgeon767]

Recent Bucks/Cavs/Wizards trade - extremely complete analysis: I'm not sure how to directly link to this article by Luke Adams at hoopsrumors.com. Just go to the site, click on Bucks Rumors (right hand side - scroll down) and scroll a wee bit until you see the article.

[Ron Swanson]

Grade is subject to change based on what they do with this new cap flexibility. Don't think that anyone's really debating that.

[Pachinko_]

Grade is subject to change based on what they do with this new cap flexibility.

Ι hear LED needs a new private jet

[FrieAaron]

Grade is subject to change based on what they do with this new cap flexibility. Don't think that anyone's really debating that.

Completely disagree. If they screw up it's just a new screw-up. Having the flexibility in the first place is a good move.

[yannisk]

Grade is subject to change based on what they do with this new cap flexibility. Don't think that anyone's really debating that.

Completely disagree. If they screw up it's just a new screw-up. Having the flexibility in the first place is a good move.

Absolutely, every move has to be judged on its own. If we trade Thon for two first round picks it is a good move, drafting worse players with these picks does not make the original trade bad.

[MAC1987]

And we still owe Mirza 9 million bucks.

Good GM though. EOTY.

Does that count towards the cap?

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[tedbrogen]

And we still owe Mirza 9 million bucks.

Good GM though. EOTY.

Does that count towards the cap?

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No it does not. They received that exemption once he had not played for a year.

[nate33]

Edit: Updated to account for Teletovic likely being removed from the salary cap calculation:

I was curious to see what Milwaukee's cap flexibility would be this summer, so I went ahead and did an analysis for you guys.

Under contract next year, you will have the following players at a cost of $66.5M:
- Giannis
- Snell
- Ilyasova
- Maker
- Wilson
- DiVincenzo

The following players have non-guaranteed contracts but they're reasonably useful players who are barely more expensive than vet-minimum cap holds so I assume you'll keep them as well. They'll cost another $5M:
- Connaughton
- Wood
- Brown

You have the following dead cap salaries - ghosts who still count against your cap. The total dead cap is $4.8M:

- Hawes
- Sanders
- Hill

So that's a total cap figure of $76.3M. The salary cap is estimated at $109M so that leaves you with $32.7M in cap room. Actually it's more like $30.7M in cap room because you need to factor two additional minimum-salary slots.

The following players are free agents. Next to them, I have posted their cap holds. That is what they count against the cap unless you renounce them. (Renouncing them would relinquish Bird Rights to exceed the cap to resign them). Once they actually re-sign, their new salary becomes their cap figure. If you refrain from renouncing any of them, your cap number is 124.3M:
- Brogdon - $1.9M
- Lopez - $4.1M
- Middleton - $19.5M
- Bledsoe - $22.5M

The TLDR version is that you will have to renounce all of Brogdon, Lopez, Middleton and Bledsoe to use your $30.7M in cap room, and that isn't enough for a full max contract. You're not landing Durant, Kawhi, Kemba or Klay with that. I think your best bet is to just retain as many of your key free agents as you can before bumping into the luxtax. The luxtax threshold is estimated to be $132M so that leaves you with $55.7M to pay those 4 guys. You'll probably get to keep 3.

[Chapter29]

We have put ourselves in a position to resign our own or potentially be a player for a bigger name. I think we are close enough that other moves can get done to make us a player for said bigger name.

My guess is the bigger issue will be whether or not a bigger name would want to come here in the first place. No so much that we are 5-10 M off on the cap side.

Bottom line is we have some flexibility now.

[MAC1987]

I was curious to see what Milwaukee's cap flexibility would be this summer, so I went ahead and did an analysis for you guys.

Under contract next year, you will have the following players at a cost of $66.5M:
- Giannis
- Snell
- Ilyasova
- Maker
- Wilson
- DiVincenzo

The following players have non-guaranteed contracts but they're reasonably useful players who are barely more expensive than vet-minimum cap holds so I assume you'll keep them as well. They'll cost another $5M:
- Connaughton
- Wood
- Brown

You have the following dead cap salaries - ghosts who still count against your cap. The total dead cap is $8.3M:
- Teletovic
- Hawes
- Sanders
- Hill

So that's a total cap figure of $79.8M. The salary cap is estimated at $109M so that leaves you with $29.2M in cap room. Actually it's more like $27M in cap room because you need to factor two additional minimum-salary slots.

The following players are free agents. Next to them, I have posted their cap holds. That is what they count against the cap unless you renounce them. (Renouncing them would relinquish Bird Rights to exceed the cap to resign them). Once they actually re-sign, their new salary becomes their cap figure. If you refrain from renouncing any of them, your cap number is 127.8M:
- Brogdon - $1.9M
- Lopez - $4.1M
- Middleton - $19.5M
- Bledsoe - $22.5M

The TLDR version is that you will have to renounce all of Brogdon, Lopez, Middleton and Bledsoe to use your $27M in cap room, and that isn't enough for a full max contract. You're not landing Durant, Kawhi, Kemba or Klay with that. I think your best bet is to just retain as many of your key free agents as you can before bumping into the luxtax. The luxtax threshold is estimated to be $132M so that leaves you with $52.2M to pay those 4 guys. You'll probably get to keep 3.

Telly doesnt count against the cap

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[nate33]

Telly doesnt count against the cap

Both Basketball-reference and Sportrac says he counts $3.5M against the cap:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/MIL.html
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/milwaukee-bucks/yearly/cap/

EDIT: I see that a recent RealGM article says the NBA is likely to grant them the exclusion. So bball reference and sportrac are technically correct at the moment, but that's likely to change once the NBA issues a decision.

So remove $3.5M from the dead cap section of my analysis. The Bucks will have $33M in cap room if they renounce everyone (actually more like $31 factoring vet minimum salaries). That's still not enough for a max contract, but it's getting closer. That said, it makes little sense at all to let Brogdon walk given his tiny cap hold. You may as well retain his cap hold, sign your free agents, and then exceed the cap to resign Brogdon with Bird Rights. So it's really about $30M in cap room if you hold onto Brogdon's Bird Rights.

[MAC1987]

Telly doesnt count against the cap

Both Basketball-reference and Sportrac says he counts $3.5M against the cap:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/MIL.html
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/milwaukee-bucks/yearly/cap/

https://hoopshype.com/rumor/1168427/

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[MAC1987]

Telly doesnt count against the cap

Both Basketball-reference and Sportrac says he counts $3.5M against the cap:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/MIL.html
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/milwaukee-bucks/yearly/cap/

EDIT: I see that a recent RealGM article says the NBA is likely to grant them the exclusion. So bball reference and sportrac are technically correct at the moment, but that's likely to change once the NBA issues a decision.

So remove $3.5M from the dead cap section of my analysis. The Bucks will have $33M in cap room if they renounce everyone (actually more like $31 factoring vet minimum salaries). That's still not enough for a max contract, but it's getting closer. That said, it makes little sense at all to let Brogdon walk given his tiny cap hold. You may as well retain his cap hold, sign your free agents, and then exceed the cap to resign Brogdon with Bird Rights. So it's really about $30M in cap room if you hold onto Brogdon's Bird Rights.

Almost need to find someone to take Snell's contract....

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[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Edit: Updated to account for Teletovic likely being removed from the salary cap calculation:

I was curious to see what Milwaukee's cap flexibility would be this summer, so I went ahead and did an analysis for you guys.

Under contract next year, you will have the following players at a cost of $66.5M:
- Giannis (25.5)
- Snell (11.5)
- Ilyasova (7)
- Maker (5.2)
- Wilson (3)
- DiVincenzo (3)
Once they actually re-sign, their new salary becomes their cap figure. If you refrain from renouncing any of them, your cap number is 124.3M:
- Brogdon - $1.9M
- Lopez - $4.1M
- Middleton - $19.5M
- Bledsoe - $22.5M

The TLDR version is that you will have to renounce all of Brogdon, Lopez, Middleton and Bledsoe to use your $30.7M in cap room, and that isn't enough for a full max contract. You're not landing Durant, Kawhi, Kemba or Klay with that. I think your best bet is to just retain as many of your key free agents as you can before bumping into the luxtax. The luxtax threshold is estimated to be $132M so that leaves you with $55.7M to pay those 4 guys. You'll probably get to keep 3.

The six guys under contract are at 55m. That's an extra 10 million. Could see a senario we keep brogdons hold and going after a max guy. Not getting my hopes up

[TroyD92]

8.2 million in wasted money between Thon and Wilson.

[SupremeHustle]

8.2 million in wasted money between Thon and Wilson.

We can easily shed their salaries by adding Giannis to a deal.