Game 27: Toronto Raptors (21-7) @ Los Angeles Clippers (17-9) - 10:30 PM PT

ducler · Post #1 » by **ducler** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:33 pm

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Ranma · Post #2 » by **Ranma** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:53 pm

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Ranma · Post #3 » by **Ranma** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:57 pm

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Ranma · Post #4 » by **Ranma** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:03 pm

Flom points out the obvious things Doc continues to miss and is slow to adjust for. If it's not valuing draft picks or roster depth, which lo and behold are priorities for successful organizations, it's continuing to play inefficient players even after the front office got rid of the likes of Crawford and his son, Austin. It's like he goes out of his way to find such players on the roster to make things harder for the team. Of course, his noted reluctance to give rookies their due continues on with Shai.

His apologists' preaching of patience with him comes at the expense of the organization when it came to Doc "figuring out" the GM game and continues to cost us games this season and developmental time in building for the future. Hell, we're still paying for his mismanagement of assets with his exploits as PoBO. If it weren't for the Logo and the newly recruited front office, we'd challenge the Wizards or Suns for the distinction of most dysfunctional team. The continued lack of accountability for Doc bugs me to no end.

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• Beverley and Bradley continue to misfire: Avery Bradley and Pat Beverley have been disappointing this season. Their oft-hyped defense, while solid, hasn’t lived up to the “Clamp City” expectations, often failing against quicker or larger players. And both have been positively miserable on the offensive end, with many a clanked shot between them. Last night was no different: the two shot 5-15 from the field and 0-6 from three, though they did provide some redemption by each making a pair of free throws down the stretch. The Clippers have done well to start the season, but in order to keep their offense in gear, Bradley and Beverley need to start hitting their outside shots.

• Play Shai: After playing just 19 minutes against the Heat (partially due to foul trouble, and partially questionable rotations), Shai looked like he was on his way to another quiet night when he played just 11 minutes in the first half against the Suns. However, Lou Williams’ hamstring injury opened the door for Shai to get big minutes, and he responded in typical fashion, scoring 10 points in the 4th quarter and overtime on a series of tough midrange jumpers and layups. He ran the offense calmly, played solid, smart perimeter defense, and just generally helped keep the Clippers afloat. He’s probably the best guard on the team, at least with Lou slumping, and he needs to get minutes commensurate with his talents. Play the man.

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Ranma · Post #5 » by **Ranma** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:31 pm

Shai is also shooting 35.1% from beyond the arc on only 1.4 attempts per game. Shai is the most efficient out of these top rookies albeit at a lower volume and yet finds himself playing the least so far this season.

Again, I want to re-iterate that I understand monitoring his minutes over the long 82-game NBA season, but it makes no sense for Shai not to play extended minutes more often and to be excluded from closing out games for most of the season at this point.

A case can be made that limiting his usage may help Shai's efficiency but it remains to be seen if that is actually true right now given his lack of opportunities. I suspect that would apply over the entirety of the season, but he should be playing more in spot sitations more frequently.

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esqtvd · Post #6 » by **esqtvd** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:16 am

Ranma wrote:Flom points out the obvious things Doc continues to miss and is slow to adjust for. If it's not valuing draft picks or roster depth, which lo and behold are priorities for successful organizations, it's continuing to play inefficient players even after the front office got rid of the likes of Crawford and his son, Austin. It's like he goes out of his way to find such players on the roster to make things harder for the team. Of course, his noted reluctance to give rookies their due continues on with Shai.

His apologists' preaching of patience with him comes at the expense of the organization when it came to Doc "figuring out" the GM game and continues to cost us games this season and developmental time in building for the future. Hell, we're still paying for his mismanagement of assets with his exploits as PoBO. If it weren't for the Logo and the newly recruited front office, we'd challenge the Wizards or Suns for the distinction of most dysfunctional team. The continued lack of accountability for Doc bugs me to no end.

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Robert Flom, ClipsNation.com (12/11/18)
• Beverley and Bradley continue to misfire: Avery Bradley and Pat Beverley have been disappointing this season. Their oft-hyped defense, while solid, hasn’t lived up to the “Clamp City” expectations, often failing against quicker or larger players. And both have been positively miserable on the offensive end, with many a clanked shot between them. Last night was no different: the two shot 5-15 from the field and 0-6 from three, though they did provide some redemption by each making a pair of free throws down the stretch. The Clippers have done well to start the season, but in order to keep their offense in gear, Bradley and Beverley need to start hitting their outside shots.

• Play Shai: After playing just 19 minutes against the Heat (partially due to foul trouble, and partially questionable rotations), Shai looked like he was on his way to another quiet night when he played just 11 minutes in the first half against the Suns. However, Lou Williams’ hamstring injury opened the door for Shai to get big minutes, and he responded in typical fashion, scoring 10 points in the 4th quarter and overtime on a series of tough midrange jumpers and layups. He ran the offense calmly, played solid, smart perimeter defense, and just generally helped keep the Clippers afloat. He’s probably the best guard on the team, at least with Lou slumping, and he needs to get minutes commensurate with his talents. Play the man.

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In his haste to do yet another driveby on Doc, Ramna once again misses the target--it's not getting an extra 5 mpg for Shai, it's Harrell that's killing us.

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esqtvd · Post #7 » by **esqtvd** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:35 am

not bad, esp since we closed last season 5-10

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Max Headrom · Post #8 » by **Max Headrom** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:52 am

esqtvd wrote:
Ranma wrote:Flom points out the obvious things Doc continues to miss and is slow to adjust for. If it's not valuing draft picks or roster depth, which lo and behold are priorities for successful organizations, it's continuing to play inefficient players even after the front office got rid of the likes of Crawford and his son, Austin. It's like he goes out of his way to find such players on the roster to make things harder for the team. Of course, his noted reluctance to give rookies their due continues on with Shai.

His apologists' preaching of patience with him comes at the expense of the organization when it came to Doc "figuring out" the GM game and continues to cost us games this season and developmental time in building for the future. Hell, we're still paying for his mismanagement of assets with his exploits as PoBO. If it weren't for the Logo and the newly recruited front office, we'd challenge the Wizards or Suns for the distinction of most dysfunctional team. The continued lack of accountability for Doc bugs me to no end.

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Robert Flom, ClipsNation.com (12/11/18)
• Beverley and Bradley continue to misfire: Avery Bradley and Pat Beverley have been disappointing this season. Their oft-hyped defense, while solid, hasn’t lived up to the “Clamp City” expectations, often failing against quicker or larger players. And both have been positively miserable on the offensive end, with many a clanked shot between them. Last night was no different: the two shot 5-15 from the field and 0-6 from three, though they did provide some redemption by each making a pair of free throws down the stretch. The Clippers have done well to start the season, but in order to keep their offense in gear, Bradley and Beverley need to start hitting their outside shots.

• Play Shai: After playing just 19 minutes against the Heat (partially due to foul trouble, and partially questionable rotations), Shai looked like he was on his way to another quiet night when he played just 11 minutes in the first half against the Suns. However, Lou Williams’ hamstring injury opened the door for Shai to get big minutes, and he responded in typical fashion, scoring 10 points in the 4th quarter and overtime on a series of tough midrange jumpers and layups. He ran the offense calmly, played solid, smart perimeter defense, and just generally helped keep the Clippers afloat. He’s probably the best guard on the team, at least with Lou slumping, and he needs to get minutes commensurate with his talents. Play the man.

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In his haste to do yet another driveby on Doc, Ramna once again misses the target--it's not getting an extra 5 mpg for Shai, it's Harrell that's killing us.

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Just ignore him, no use to replying to a broken record. Besides, he has you on ignore anyway...lol

Max Headrom · Post #9 » by **Max Headrom** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:54 am

On my way to the game! I get comp suite tickets and parking for some Clippers game throughout the year.

esqtvd · Post #10 » by **esqtvd** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:00 am

Max Headrom wrote:
Just ignore him, no use to replying to a broken record. Besides, he has you on ignore anyway...lol

You too. That's what makes it so hilarious.

That was for the folks outside the bubble. There's a lot of blue cyberink for people to wade through around here. :wink:

Ranma · Post #11 » by **Ranma** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:11 am

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Ranma · Post #12 » by **Ranma** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:35 am

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Ranma · Post #13 » by **Ranma** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:41 am

The Klaw will be watching from the bench tonight.

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TheNewEra · Post #14 » by **TheNewEra** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:59 am

Silly turnovers

Ranma · Post #15 » by **Ranma** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:05 am

Not much of a surprise to be down double digits after the 1st quarter against a deep team even without Kawhi Leonard, but we're supposed to be deep and talented ourselves.

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TheNewEra · Post #16 » by **TheNewEra** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:12 am

Milo a gem

Ranma · Post #17 » by **Ranma** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:12 am

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Ranma · Post #18 » by **Ranma** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:16 am

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TheNewEra · Post #19 » by **TheNewEra** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:16 am

Can’t keep ignoring mismatch on Harrell bring in Boban

TheNewEra · Post #20 » by **TheNewEra** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:20 am

Or bring Gortat back in