2018-2019 OKC Thunder Regular Season Pt 1: A Renewed Hope

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Post#1621 » by getrichordie » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:51 am

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How does the 5 become less important?
Beal is shooting 33% from 3 this season its not like hes 40+% and he will just magically get the rest of the team shooting well.

A team with a lack of shooting like the thunder desperately depend upon rebounding. Whether it be 2nd chance points or defensively.
That need doesnt just go away because you added a 2 guard that can shoot and create hos own shot a bit.

Beal will not take, i repeat WILL NOT TAKE any shots away from Russ and PG if he came over. That, along with the rest of the teams terrible shooting neeeeeeds rebounding.

And i havent even started with the disruption it could cause on defense. You know the thing that actually makes this team elite


1. Bradley is a career 38% three point shooter. Just because he’s shooting 33% on a dysfunctional Wizards team isn’t cause for concern.

2. Russ has been feeding George. Russ can feed Beal too. His assists would definitely go up. Presti just needs to trust that he can make the adjustment. We’ve already seen that he’s beginning to change his game.

3. Mahinmi is a plus defender. His career DBPM is a 2.2. You could argue that this year’s DBPM #s are concerning but it’s a relatively small sample size (198 minutes) on a bad Wizards team. For comparison, Adams career DBPM is a 1.5.

4. As far as rebounding goes, Mahinmi is sitting at 13.3 rebounds per game and averaged 13.5 last year. Adams sits at 13.6 rebounds per 100 for his career and posted a 13.7 and is currently posting a 14.0 this year. Mahinmi can replace most of that.

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Of course you don’t have a rebuttal.


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Re: 2018-2019 OKC Thunder Regular Season Pt 1: A Renewed Hope 

Post#1622 » by RalphSampsonJr » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:54 am

getrichordie wrote:Lol @ how accustom OKC fans have become to being reliant on a 5. The league is going away from big money 5s who don’t have an elite offensive impact. It’s an inefficiency.

Also, it’s hilarious how glued you guys are to the current iteration of the Thunder. A lot of you take the “if I can’t see it and the stats don’t immediately back it up, then it doesn’t mean anything” view instead of actually considering others’ arguments for why something might work instead of why it won’t.

Always looking at the negatives and never the positives.

I honestly think I might write a piece on “negative analytics” vs “positive analytics” philosophy.


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The league is going away from big money 5s.. yet you want mahinmi for 15mil! For 2 years! Wiz cant give him away
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Post#1623 » by RalphSampsonJr » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:59 am

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1. Bradley is a career 38% three point shooter. Just because he’s shooting 33% on a dysfunctional Wizards team isn’t cause for concern.

2. Russ has been feeding George. Russ can feed Beal too. His assists would definitely go up. Presti just needs to trust that he can make the adjustment. We’ve already seen that he’s beginning to change his game.

3. Mahinmi is a plus defender. His career DBPM is a 2.2. You could argue that this year’s DBPM #s are concerning but it’s a relatively small sample size (198 minutes) on a bad Wizards team. For comparison, Adams career DBPM is a 1.5.

4. As far as rebounding goes, Mahinmi is sitting at 13.3 rebounds per game and averaged 13.5 last year. Adams sits at 13.6 rebounds per 100 for his career and posted a 13.7 and is currently posting a 14.0 this year. Mahinmi can replace most of that.

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Because what you have just used to justify your theory is non sense.. and havent been used in context at all.

This way of looking at things no wonder you think Adams is easily replaceable. With your theory here Noel is 10x the player Adams is yet we all know this isnt the case
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Post#1624 » by Pillendreher » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:19 am

We should talk about replacing Paul George with Solomon Hill next.

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Post#1625 » by getrichordie » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:20 am

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Because what you have just used to justify your theory is non sense.. and havent been used in context at all.

This way of looking at things no wonder you think Adams is easily replaceable. With your theory here Noel is 10x the player Adams is yet we all know this isnt the case


Soooo... Mahinmi’s not a good rebounder? He’s not a good defender? Because that’s all we need at the 5 if Bradley Beal is on board.


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Post#1626 » by getrichordie » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:25 am

RalphSampsonJr wrote:
getrichordie wrote:Lol @ how accustom OKC fans have become to being reliant on a 5. The league is going away from big money 5s who don’t have an elite offensive impact. It’s an inefficiency.

Also, it’s hilarious how glued you guys are to the current iteration of the Thunder. A lot of you take the “if I can’t see it and the stats don’t immediately back it up, then it doesn’t mean anything” view instead of actually considering others’ arguments for why something might work instead of why it won’t.

Always looking at the negatives and never the positives.

I honestly think I might write a piece on “negative analytics” vs “positive analytics” philosophy.


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The league is going away from big money 5s.. yet you want mahinmi for 15mil! For 2 years! Wiz cant give him away


15 million a year is about 10 million less than what Steven Adams is making and Mahinmi’s contract ends a year earlier. Baby steps.

We would also have a $15.5 million expiring next year to flip if we wanted.


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Post#1627 » by getrichordie » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:33 am

Pillendreher wrote:We should talk about replacing Paul George with Solomon Hill next.

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I didn’t know so many people loved to overreact on these boards. Must be the new trend/wave/fad.




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Post#1628 » by spearsy23 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:36 am

getrichordie wrote:Lol @ how accustom OKC fans have become to being reliant on a 5. The league is going away from big money 5s who don’t have an elite offensive impact. It’s an inefficiency.

Also, it’s hilarious how glued you guys are to the current iteration of the Thunder. A lot of you take the “if I can’t see it and the stats don’t immediately back it up, then it doesn’t mean anything” view instead of actually considering others’ arguments for why something might work instead of why it won’t.

Always looking at the negatives and never the positives.

I honestly think I might write a piece on “negative analytics” vs “positive analytics” philosophy.


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I'm not even going to get into the stats. Ian mahimi sucks. Like shouldn't play more than garbage minutes sucks.
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Post#1629 » by Pillendreher » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:43 am

getrichordie wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:We should talk about replacing Paul George with Solomon Hill next.

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I didn’t know so many people loved to overreact on these boards. Must be the new trend/wave/fad.




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You're projecting. I'm merely drawing a comparison to your statement.

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Post#1630 » by getrichordie » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:48 am

Pillendreher wrote:
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Pillendreher wrote:We should talk about replacing Paul George with Solomon Hill next.

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I didn’t know so many people loved to overreact on these boards. Must be the new trend/wave/fad.




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You're projecting. I'm merely drawing a comparison to your statement.

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You, amongst others, love to over-simplify my points. I’ve already stated my point and you have chosen to belittle it by making a super duper witty and awful comparison. Congratulations.

George is not to Solomon Hill as Steven Adams is to Mahinmi. Not even close.


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Post#1631 » by Pillendreher » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:34 am

getrichordie wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:
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I didn’t know so many people loved to overreact on these boards. Must be the new trend/wave/fad.




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You're projecting. I'm merely drawing a comparison to your statement.

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You, amongst others, love to over-simplify my points. I’ve already stated my point and you have chosen to belittle it by making a super duper witty and awful comparison. Congratulations.

George is not to Solomon Hill as Steven Adams is to Mahinmi. Not even close.


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Well, yes, he is. Both are role players that are way, way overpaid and are probably closer to the minimum than the MLE. You can't replace Adams with a guy like him. That's basically saying that any scrub can replace almost all of one of the best Centers in the league.

The Wizards are without their starting Center and their 15 million guy Mahinmi is not even getting off the bench most of the time. Try to understand what that means.

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Post#1632 » by getrichordie » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:25 am

Pillendreher wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:You're projecting. I'm merely drawing a comparison to your statement.

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You, amongst others, love to over-simplify my points. I’ve already stated my point and you have chosen to belittle it by making a super duper witty and awful comparison. Congratulations.

George is not to Solomon Hill as Steven Adams is to Mahinmi. Not even close.


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Well, yes, he is. Both are role players that are way, way overpaid and are probably closer to the minimum than the MLE. You can't replace Adams with a guy like him. That's basically saying that any scrub can replace almost all of one of the best Centers in the league.

The Wizards are without their starting Center and their 15 million guy Mahinmi is not even getting off the bench most of the time. Try to understand what that means.

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Could mean Mahinmi is involved in trade talks, dude. And with all due respect to Adams. I’m saying Beal can replace him.


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Post#1633 » by RalphSampsonJr » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:58 am

getrichordie wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
I didn’t know so many people loved to overreact on these boards. Must be the new trend/wave/fad.




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You're projecting. I'm merely drawing a comparison to your statement.

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You, amongst others, love to over-simplify my points. I’ve already stated my point and you have chosen to belittle it by making a super duper witty and awful comparison. Congratulations.

George is not to Solomon Hill as Steven Adams is to Mahinmi. Not even close.


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talking about people over simplifying points.. you just tried to tell us Adams and Mahinmi have similar value with a rebounds per possession stat..
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Post#1634 » by getrichordie » Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:34 am

RalphSampsonJr wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:You're projecting. I'm merely drawing a comparison to your statement.

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You, amongst others, love to over-simplify my points. I’ve already stated my point and you have chosen to belittle it by making a super duper witty and awful comparison. Congratulations.

George is not to Solomon Hill as Steven Adams is to Mahinmi. Not even close.


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talking about people over simplifying points.. you just tried to tell us Adams and Mahinmi have similar value with a rebounds per possession stat..


Whatever dude. Not what I said at all.

I’m saying Mahinmi can replace enough of what Adams brings to the table to make my proposed trade tenable.

...

Anyways.

Players that are “injured” right before the Dec. 15th deadline:

Porter Jr.
Wall
D. Booker
Giannis
Ingram
Butler

DNPs

Okobo
Ariza
Crawford
Troy Williams
Napier

I’ll comeback to check to see who got traded at deadline.

Keep your eyes peeled. Big things are happening. Otto Porter played 7 minutes tonight and got “injured.” Or Washington pulled him after Sacramento realized they could use KCP to get Porter Jr.

Lowe is saying Ariza trade is a done deal.

Would be wild if 76ers decided to deal Butler to Houston for those 4 FRPs!!

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Post#1635 » by Pillendreher » Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:00 pm

getrichordie wrote:Could mean Mahinmi is involved in trade talks, dude.


No, it means he sucks.

getrichordie wrote:And with all due respect to Adams. I’m saying Beal can replace him.


Seriously? You wrote this:

getrichordie wrote:If we think Mahinmi can replace 75% of Adams impact (offensively and defensively


But now Mahinmi isn't "replacing" Adams?

getrichordie wrote:Keep your eyes peeled. Big things are happening.


Could you just stop? You're spamming this all over the boards and it's becoming really annoying. There's no need for this Limitless ****.
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Post#1636 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:07 pm

lol @ Mahinmi can replace 75% of Steven Adams impact.

Dude has been a monster and gets that kind of stupid comparison. Every day more bull****
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Post#1637 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:14 pm

Anyone notice caris levert had a convenient “injury” and hasn’t been playing? Dudes on his way out. Get him Presti!
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Post#1638 » by CROklahoma » Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:15 pm

Why are you even having a discussion about Mahinmi replacing Adams impact. Come on, post some advanced and interesting stats and facts, dont fall on troll traps ...
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Post#1639 » by Pillendreher » Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:23 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:Anyone notice caris levert had a convenient “injury” and hasn’t been playing? Dudes on his way out. Get him Presti!


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Post#1640 » by getrichordie » Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:25 pm

There’s a quote about haters lying around here somewhere. Just gotta find it.


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