Fake Trade Thread 2

[LofJ]

Guys that I see us realistically having a chance at and/or realistically persuing in the trade market:

Bradley Beal
Kevin Love
Deangelo Russell
Derrick Favors
Gordon Hayward
Vuevic

Best reward for what we likely have to give up is Favors and/or Russell. Favors is a big upgrade over Zeller who can hit the corner three and is stuffed behind Gobert (and playing some PF), in Utah.

I think you're right on the money about Favors and Russell being the lowest cost, biggest reward targets for us. I think this trade would be a huge winner:

CHA out Lamb, Biyombo, 19 1st, and BKN 21 2nd
CHA in Favors and Russell

UTA out Favors and Exum
UTA in Carroll and Lamb

BKN out Russell and Carroll
BKN in Exum, Biyombo, CHA 2019 1st, own 21 2nd

Would we need to add additional assets going to Brooklyn? It seems pretty fair to me for both us and Utah.

[amcoolio]

As much as we like Lamb lately we have 0 percent chance of keeping him, I would trade him when we have the chance

[LofJ]

As much as we like Lamb lately we have 0 percent chance of keeping him, I would trade him when we have the chance

I agree, it's why Mitch is interested in Beal. From a roster construction standpoint going all in to land a starting 2 guard for both this season and beyond is exactly what we should be trying to accomplish.

We should inquire about Klay, Russell, Lavine, DeRozan, and Wiggins in addition to Beal and make a move for the guy we like the most from a cost-benefit perspective.

It's either that or we use a 1st to dump Biz for an expiring so that we can pay Lamb. The alternative is doing nothing, losing Lamb, and starting Monk. That might work out, but if you're Kemba I don't think you'd be happy with the team doing that.

[JDR720]

would the nets trade Rondae Hollis-Jefferson?

I know he is a bit of an MKG clone, but he helps our defense and rebounding.

Would look at Bobby Portis and Tristan Thompson too.

[JDR720]

As much as we like Lamb lately we have 0 percent chance of keeping him, I would trade him when we have the chance

I agree, it's why Mitch is interested in Beal. From a roster construction standpoint going all in to land a starting 2 guard for both this season and beyond is exactly what we should be trying to accomplish.

We should inquire about Klay, Russell, Lavine, DeRozan, and Wiggins in addition to Beal and make a move for the guy we like the most from a cost-benefit perspective.

It's either that or we use a 1st to dump Biz for an expiring so that we can pay Lamb. The alternative is doing nothing, losing Lamb, and starting Monk. That might work out, but if you're Kemba I don't think you'd be happy with the team doing that.

I think of that list only DeMar and Russell are reasonable targets. No way will GS trade Klay, Wiggins is worse than Nic is and the Bulls aren't trading LaVine.

and Beal obviously.

[LofJ]

As much as we like Lamb lately we have 0 percent chance of keeping him, I would trade him when we have the chance

I agree, it's why Mitch is interested in Beal. From a roster construction standpoint going all in to land a starting 2 guard for both this season and beyond is exactly what we should be trying to accomplish.

We should inquire about Klay, Russell, Lavine, DeRozan, and Wiggins in addition to Beal and make a move for the guy we like the most from a cost-benefit perspective.

It's either that or we use a 1st to dump Biz for an expiring so that we can pay Lamb. The alternative is doing nothing, losing Lamb, and starting Monk. That might work out, but if you're Kemba I don't think you'd be happy with the team doing that.

I think of that list only DeMar and Russell are reasonable targets. No way will GS trade Klay, Wiggins is worse than Nic is and the Bulls aren't trading LaVine.

and Beal obviously.

I agree with the exception of Lavine. The blowup he had with their coach may have burned some of his bridges in the organization.

That said Mitch should still ask about all of those guys, exercising due diligence is important.

[SeanBobcats]

Seems Jabari is getting traded. Should we go for him, and if so, at what price?

[316Hornets]

I'd take a look at Jabari. It looks like his contract expires this year, so it would basically just be an opportunity to prove himself. More upside than Marvin.

[LofJ]

I'm more interested in a slightly younger former #2 pick that was drafted by our current GM, especially now that the Nets have locked up Dinwiddie for the next few years.

[Bassman]

Seems Jabari is getting traded. Should we go for him, and if so, at what price?

Batum for Parker. Jabari has a 2 year $40M contract, so the numbers aren’t too far off. Younger, his average PPG and rebounds are solid this season. Not sure if he’s become a pain in the neck, but our player has gone all Diaw on us and needs a new venue. And if Levine is in their doghouse let’s package Lamb in to get him. Some combination that also gets us a little cap relief next year to sign Kemba.

[Thaliontil]

Seems Jabari is getting traded. Should we go for him, and if so, at what price?

Batum for Parker. Jabari has a 2 year $40M contract, so the numbers aren’t too far off. Younger, his average PPG and rebounds are solid this season. Not sure if he’s become a pain in the neck, but our player has gone all Diaw on us and needs a new venue. And if Levine is in their doghouse let’s package Lamb in to get him. Some combination that also gets us a little cap relief next year to sign Kemba.

Isn't the second year of Parker a team-option? Why would the Bulls do that? (Unless we attach, at least, two rounds, which, at this point, I would gladly do to get rid of Batum).

On another topic, how about Gallinari? Haven't seen him play this year apart from a couple of games and I know he is injury prone, but perhaps a Biyombo + Kaminsky would lure the Clippers? They would save almost 5 millions for this year if they want to increase their cap space for their FA chasing. We would get a nice player whose contract expires this year. This would obviously cripple our cap space for this summer, so we would need to get rid of Marvin-Nic, but if we also do the trade with the Bulls, despite the loss of rounds, we could be having something like:

Kemba-Lamb-Gallinari-Marvin-Zeller
Parker-Monk-Bridges-MKG-Parker
Devonte, Willy, Bacon.

TBH, we would probably have to get rid of Lamb or one of our youngsters, but this team looks better on the court and, what's more important, way better financially.

[bravor]

Don't want to sound annoying, but i don't think you you can play Gallo at the wing. Even when he was younger (back in times when they started in EL at 18 he and Batum..) he was always more productive at the 4 since he is too slow to defend wing players. MKG would most likely be the starter in such situation, and Gallo would be starting 4.

J. Parker has a team option yes, we already discussed that idea long time ago (when a bull fans was kinda beging that some team would be willing to trade for him). And as said as well, there is no point for the Hornets to do it if it does not invoved Batum or Biyombo.

Kings, Hornets and Bulls are perfect trade partners imo and all want to move some undesired pieces or improve roster (play offs). Hornets could fix both wing and center spot easily and restore some flexibility (as those teams won't provide anything else, but that would already be a good move).

IF Kupchak finds a way to get Lopez here (so that he can team up with Cody) and get rid of Batum without giving up too much, that would alreayd be a great move. If it's 'just' Marvin & Biyombo, that would also be great (but it has to involved some big expiring, J. Parker or alike).

[Splitta]

Does anyone see any hope of moving Batum during the trade period without moving Kemba, Bridges or Lamb? Anyone else with maybe an unprotected 1st round pick would be good imo providing we don't have to take back another long term horrible contract. Young talent and an expiring bad contract would be ok. I am afraid Batum has become Diaw 2.0 and it will get ugly as I see no way that JB can continue to play him major minutes if the team wants to be competitive and win. Batum may actually perform better when playing for a team that does not expect much from him.

[tondi123]

I can't imagine there's a GM out there who wants Batums franchise player level contract and borderline starter performance on their team, without us having to give them something pretty substantial to do it.

[JDR720]

does Dangelo have an option to pick up?

Dangelo and Faried for Monk and Bismack + 2nd

[amcoolio]

I can't imagine there's a GM out there who wants Batums franchise player level contract and borderline starter performance on their team, without us having to give them something pretty substantial to do it.

There are some dumb GM's out there. I can see Bulls, Suns, and Kings making a trade like that.

[Liver_Pooty]

When you consider production, or lackthere of Batums contract is as untouchable as John Walls

[Braggins]

I'm still on the Otto Porter bandwagon.

Washington is still a dumpster fire, which means he could actually be available, and his play is trending back towards his level from the last couple years, despite the awful situation hes in.

Hes up to 12/6/2 on 48/37/78 shooting splits and his RPM is up to +1.08, which is 15th at his position (Batum is 49th SF at -1.22). Its still not on par with his last couple seasons, but hes still infinitely better than Batum at the same role and I'm fairly confident hed play at least as well as he did the last couple years in Washington if he came here. I actually think he could improve on his best years in Washington considering we are better coached and have a great locker room and chemistry.

The re-emergence of Lamb has me feeling less desperate to add a #2 scoring option, especially if we have to bet the farm to add one. I think Lamb is just slow to adjust and struggled with the new system at first, but he should continue to be an efficient 16-18 ppg scorer moving forward now that hes settled into his role.

[316Hornets]

Floodgates open up tomorrow. All these guys will be eligible for trade.



Atlanta Hawks: Vince Carter, Daniel Hamilton, Alex Len

Boston Celtics: Aron Baynes, Jabari Bird, Brad Wanamaker

Brooklyn Nets: Ed Davis, Treveon Graham, Shabazz Napier

Charlotte Hornets: Tony Parker

Chicago Bulls: Jabari Parker, Ryan Arcidiacono, Antonio Blakeney

Cleveland Cavaliers: Channing Frye, David Nwaba, Rodney Hood

Dallas Mavericks: Ryan Broekhoff, Dirk Nowitzki, DeAndre Jordan, Salah Mejri, Devin Harris

Denver Nuggets: Isaiah Thomas, Torrey Craig

Detroit Pistons: Zaza Pachulia, Jose Calderon, Glenn Robinson

Golden State Warriors: DeMarcus Cousins, Kevin Durant, Kevon Looney, Jonas Jerebko

Houston Rockets: Gerald Green, James Ennis, Michael Carter-Williams, Carmelo Anthony

Indiana Pacers: Tyreke Evans, Doug McDermott, Kyle O’Quinn

Los Angeles Clippers: Luc Mbah a Moute, Mike Scott, Tyrone Wallace

Los Angeles Lakers: LeBron James, JaVale McGee, Michael Beasley, Lance Stephenson, Rajon Rondo, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope

Memphis Grizzlies: Kyle Anderson, Shelvin Mack, Omri Casspi

Miami Heat: Wayne Ellington, Dwyane Wade, Udonis Haslem, Derrick Jones Jr

Milwaukee Bucks: Pat Connaughton, Ersan Ilyasova, Brook Lopez, Christian Wood

Minnesota Timberwolves: Derrick Rose, James Nunnally, Luol Deng, Anthony Tolliver

New Orleans Pelicans: Ian Clark, Julius Randle, Elfrid Payton, Jahlil Okafor, Kendrick Williams

New York Knicks: Luke Kornet, Mario Hezonja, Noah Vonleh

Oklahoma City Thunder: Raymond Felton, Nerlens Noel

Orlando Magic: Isaiah Briscoe

Philadelphia 76ers: Amir Johnson, JJ Redick

Phoenix Suns: Trevor Ariza

Portland Trail Blazers: Seth Curry, Nik Stauskas

Sacramento Kings: Yogi Ferrell, Nemanja Bjelica

San Antonio Spurs: Rudy Gay, Marco Belinelli, Dante Cunningham, Quincy Pondexter

Toronto Raptors: Lorenzo Brown, Greg Monroe

Utah Jazz: Georges Niang

Washington Wizards: Jeff Green, Dwight Howard

https://fadeawayworld.net/2018/12/13/the-full-list-of-108-nba-players-that-are-eligible-to-be-traded-on-december-15th/

[yosemiteben]

When you consider production, or lackthere of Batums contract is as untouchable as John Walls

Yeah...I don't agree with that. Four years from now, Wall's salary will be double what Batum's is this year, while Batum's will have expired two years earlier.

That Wall contract is insane.