Wizards 2019 Draft thread. (Tank for Zion, or OTHER NAME HERE)

[Ruzious]

Either that or Kidney. Stone

Gall Stone

Poor thing was NOT EVEN ready to be in the NBA...but he is GOOD ENOUGH TO BE Paid to play basketball.

Wizard Thomas Bryant is to Diamond Stone

What

Maverick(King?) YOGI FERRELL is to another Terps player, Melo Trimble.

Trimble and Stone...not NBA

Ferrell and Bryant...Players Only, baby. The NBA...

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Lol, hopefully Diamond doesn't have brothers or kids named Kidney and Gall. Parents can be so cruel.

Ok, one more. He's out for the season with an injury and doesn't pass the eye test - small and skinny, not a great athlete, not a pure point guard, but... Darius Garland of Vandy has a jump shot like budduh and a knack for getting to the basket, super-high BBIQ. Did I mention his jump shot's relationship to butter? And... he can really shoot. Picture... perfect... shooter.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Either that or Kidney. Stone

Gall Stone

Poor thing was NOT EVEN ready to be in the NBA...but he is GOOD ENOUGH TO BE Paid to play basketball.

Wizard Thomas Bryant is to Diamond Stone

What

Maverick(King?) YOGI FERRELL is to another Terps player, Melo Trimble.

Trimble and Stone...not NBA

Ferrell and Bryant...Players Only, baby. The NBA...

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Lol, hopefully Diamond doesn't have brothers or kids named Kidney and Gall. Parents can be so cruel.

Ok, one more. He's out for the season with an injury and doesn't pass the eye test - small and skinny, not a great athlete, not a pure point guard, but... Darius Garland of Vandy has a jump shot like budduh and a knack for getting to the basket, super-high BBIQ. Did I mention his jump shot's relationship to butter? And... he can really shoot. Picture... perfect... shooter.

Garlic and butter? I must be crazy and hungry....

...and isn't garland what wreathes are made of?

Never heard of the kid but if you endorse Darius Guice...err Darrius Miles...Darius Rucker...

My thoughts are schizo...or, I'm trying to be funny...who knows.

D Garland, Vandy

Roger.

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[Ruzious]

Either that or Kidney. Stone

Gall Stone

Poor thing was NOT EVEN ready to be in the NBA...but he is GOOD ENOUGH TO BE Paid to play basketball.

Wizard Thomas Bryant is to Diamond Stone

What

Maverick(King?) YOGI FERRELL is to another Terps player, Melo Trimble.

Trimble and Stone...not NBA

Ferrell and Bryant...Players Only, baby. The NBA...

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Lol, hopefully Diamond doesn't have brothers or kids named Kidney and Gall. Parents can be so cruel.

Ok, one more. He's out for the season with an injury and doesn't pass the eye test - small and skinny, not a great athlete, not a pure point guard, but... Darius Garland of Vandy has a jump shot like budduh and a knack for getting to the basket, super-high BBIQ. Did I mention his jump shot's relationship to butter? And... he can really shoot. Picture... perfect... shooter.

Garlic and butter? I must be crazy and hungry....

...and isn't garland what wreathes are made of?

Never heard of the kid but if you endorse Darius Guice...err Darrius Miles...Darius Rucker...

My thoughts are schizo...or, I'm trying to be funny...who knows.

D Garland, Vandy

Roger.

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In all seriousness - or at least 95% - Vandy was set to have 2 phenoms frosh this season - D Garland and Simi Shittu (see, parents can be cruel - I shittu you not). Shittu was ranked #1 PF prospect in the nation and tore his ACL less than a year ago, but he already came back, and he's looking good. He and Garland together would have been something to see later this season. Garland has some similarities to Steph Curry - other than being small and scrawny as a college freshman - just sayin. And his rep coming into the season was being an unselfish pure PG.

Edit - jeebus, a player's real name is bleeped out here?

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Shytu-not is a heck of name

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[TGW]

Bol Bol is a can't miss prospect IMO. He may be better than Zion (who's relies on elite athleticism too much IMO).

Manute's son just has a better skillset than any other big in college, including Zion.

[Ruzious]

Bol Bol is a can't miss prospect IMO. He may be better than Zion (who's relies on elite athleticism too much IMO).

Manute's son just has a better skillset than any other big in college, including Zion.

He's been amazingly consistent for someone that people questioned his effort and lack of intensity. Just turned 19 - he's well ahead of where Gobert was at that age, and his offense is certainly ahead of Bomba's. He was highly ranked and is still exceeding expectations. I've only seen highlights - need to watch more of him. It'll be interesting to see how people compare him to the stud bigs in the last draft.

[pcbothwel]

Bol Bol is a can't miss prospect IMO. He may be better than Zion (who's relies on elite athleticism too much IMO).

Manute's son just has a better skillset than any other big in college, including Zion.

Agreed. I have him as Myles Turner with a higher offensive ceiling. I wouldnt hesitate to take him.

[Ruzious]

One big that I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned more is Charles Bassey of Western Kentucky - who I think can be a top half of the lottery pick. Turned 18 in October and was measured at 6'10.5 with a 7'3 wingspan and 9'2.5 standing reach. Weighs around 240 but needs to get stronger. Very fluid athlete. Could have the potential to be a decent 3 point shooter. He's rebounding and blocking shots well, soft touch, good hands, has a rep for being a good screener. Raw and makes some turnovers, but there's a lot to like. Draftexpress has him at 17 now. I think I'd rate him just behind Bol Bol at this point.

[Ruzious]

RJ Barrett is making the case that Mt. Zion is not a shoe-in for the first pick. The last 3 games, he's averaged about 28 points, 10 rebounds and 6 assists while shooting 31 of 47 from the field - including 8 of 17 from the foul line. He is a legit phenom offensively, and he's the clear on-court leader of a team made up of HS All-Americans. He is a can't miss prospect who doesn't just have the skills and athleticism. He seems to also have an exceptional BBIQ as well as being an intense competitor. The only chink in the armor was his 3 point shooting, and he's starting to get good at that. I'd be just as happy with Barrett as I would with Zion.

[Ruzious]

Must see tv tonight at 7: Duke vs Texas Tech. TT has one of the best players in college ball - do-it-all guard/player Jarrett Culver. Can't wait to see him matched up with Barrett and see if he's as good as I think he is. I think Culver's a top 10 pick even though NBAdraft.net has him going 2nd round. Dude can and does do everything - including defend, create, pass, shoot, rebound... Has better size than the listed 6'5 190 - has broad shoulders that tell me he can probably get bigger - looks about the same size as Mikal Bridges, imo. I'm not sure about his first step - one thing to evaluate. And is he willing to take a charge from Zion?

[Ruzious]

Must see tv tonight at 7: Duke vs Texas Tech. TT has one of the best players in college ball - do-it-all guard/player Jarrett Culver. Can't wait to see him matched up with Barrett and see if he's as good as I think he is. I think Culver's a top 10 pick even though NBAdraft.net has him going 2nd round. Dude can and does do everything - including defend, create, pass, shoot, rebound... Has better size than the listed 6'5 190 - has broad shoulders that tell me he can probably get bigger - looks about the same size as Mikal Bridges, imo. I'm not sure about his first step - one thing to evaluate. And is he willing to take a charge from Zion?

Culver definitely outplayed RJ, but it was disappointing, because they both had 6 turnovers. Zion was also sloppy with the ball. Nobody had a great game for Duke, but they still won handily. TT was just too reliant on Culver, while Duke didn't need to rely on anyone.

[TGW]

RJ Barrett is making the case that Mt. Zion is not a shoe-in for the first pick. The last 3 games, he's averaged about 28 points, 10 rebounds and 6 assists while shooting 31 of 47 from the field - including 8 of 17 from the foul line. He is a legit phenom offensively, and he's the clear on-court leader of a team made up of HS All-Americans. He is a can't miss prospect who doesn't just have the skills and athleticism. He seems to also have an exceptional BBIQ as well as being an intense competitor. The only chink in the armor was his 3 point shooting, and he's starting to get good at that. I'd be just as happy with Barrett as I would with Zion.

I would trade Beal for him if it were on the table.

[nate33]

RJ Barrett is making the case that Mt. Zion is not a shoe-in for the first pick. The last 3 games, he's averaged about 28 points, 10 rebounds and 6 assists while shooting 31 of 47 from the field - including 8 of 17 from the foul line. He is a legit phenom offensively, and he's the clear on-court leader of a team made up of HS All-Americans. He is a can't miss prospect who doesn't just have the skills and athleticism. He seems to also have an exceptional BBIQ as well as being an intense competitor. The only chink in the armor was his 3 point shooting, and he's starting to get good at that. I'd be just as happy with Barrett as I would with Zion.

I would trade Beal for him if it were on the table.

Yes.

There's certainly a chance that he won't pan out to have a career as good as Beal's, but there's also a chance that he pans out to be better. That's the only type of Beal trade that interests me: one that lands us a potential superstar.

[I_Like_Dirt]

There's certainly a chance that he won't pan out to have a career as good as Beal's, but there's also a chance that he pans out to be better. That's the only type of Beal trade that interests me: one that lands us a potential superstar.

Barring injury or something like that I think Beal is close to Barrett's floor, honestly. And I don't say that as an insult to Beal but rather a tremendous complement to Barrett. I can see how good Zion is but for the NBA game, I actually think Barrett should still be the first overall pick. I still want to see him improve his shooting some but I think it's more likely he improves his shooting gradually over time than Barrett evolves his game to be able to play a more multi-dimensional role that doesn't take such a massive toll on his knee. I also think that, for the NBA game, Barrett is going to be a better/more effective defender than Zion and that matters, too.

[Ruzious]

If we don't trade Beal and get lucky in the lottery, we could team Beal with Barrett - or Culver (yes, I think Culver's in that class - though still behind Barrett), because RJ and Culver are going to get bigger and strong enough to play the 3.

Btw, MD's Bruno Fernando is moving up. His PER is just over 30, and his TS% is .713. He made a great choice by returning to MD. Gotta figure Jalen Smith is 1 and done with a PER of 26.5, though I think he needs to develop a 3 point shot to make it in the NBA.

[payitforward]

...the only type of Beal trade that interests me: one that lands us a potential superstar.

The problem is that you can't trade Beal for an existing superstar -- you can only trade him for a chance at one: i.e. for picks and extremely promising, extremely young rookies (harder).

B/c, after the first few picks, the correlation is low between how good a guy turns out to be in the league & where he was picked in the draft, logic says that the number of picks you get is more important than their pick position (i.e. if it's #4 or below).

E.g. I would certainly rather have 2 picks from 21-30 plus 1 pick from 31-40 than have 1 pick in the second half of the lottery.

Take any year you like: in 2015, the best pick one could have made between 8-14 would have been Myles Turner (or, if you don't bother looking at what his actual production is, Devin Booker).

2 picks in the last 1/3 of R1 could have gotten you Larry Nance & Kevon Looney. 1 pick in first 1/3 of R2 could have gotten you one of Montrezl Harrell, Josh Richardson or Pat Connaughton.

That's assuming you make the best pick in the last half of the lottery: the other guys taken in the 2d half of that lottery were Stanley Johnson, Frank Kaminsky, Justise Winslow, Trey Lyles & Cameron Payne. Yikes!

This is where having multiple shots really shows its value. 8 of the 15 guys taken from 27-41 that year have become solid NBA players. With 3 picks, even pin the tail on the donkey is likely to give you at least 1 guy you are happy with!

So... the question in trading Brad comes down to whether we can get a 1-3 pick. If not, then the more picks we get the better with much less concern about where they are.

[Ruzious]

...the only type of Beal trade that interests me: one that lands us a potential superstar.

The problem is that you can't trade Beal for an existing superstar -- you can only trade him for a chance at one: i.e. for picks and extremely promising, extremely young rookies (harder).

B/c, after the first few picks, the correlation is low between how good a guy turns out to be in the league & where he was picked in the draft, logic says that the number of picks you get is more important than their pick position (i.e. if it's #4 or below).

E.g. I would certainly rather have 2 picks from 21-30 plus 1 pick from 31-40 than have 1 pick in the second half of the lottery.

Take any year you like: in 2015, the best pick one could have made between 8-14 would have been Myles Turner (or, if you don't bother looking at what his actual production is, Devin Booker).

2 picks in the last 1/3 of R1 could have gotten you Larry Nance & Kevon Looney. 1 pick in first 1/3 of R2 could have gotten you one of Montrezl Harrell, Josh Richardson or Pat Connaughton.

That's assuming you make the best pick in the last half of the lottery: the other guys taken in the 2d half of that lottery were Stanley Johnson, Frank Kaminsky, Justise Winslow, Trey Lyles & Cameron Payne. Yikes!

This is where having multiple shots really shows its value. 8 of the 15 guys taken from 27-41 that year have become solid NBA players. With 3 picks, even pin the tail on the donkey is likely to give you at least 1 guy you are happy with!

So... the question in trading Brad comes down to whether we can get a 1-3 pick. If not, then the more picks we get the better with much less concern about where they are.

I think every draft is different, but your conclusion is probably a good one with this draft. I think the first 3 or so picks are going to be very valuable, but the rest of the lottery might not be a whole lot more valuable than late firsts - though i probably wouldn't go as far to say that picks around 40 will likely end up about as good as late lotto picks - then again there could be some that turn out that way.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Ja Morant
Markus Jones
Shamorie Ponds
Carsen Edwards

Bol Bol
Moses Brown
Ethan Happ
Nick Davis
Bruno Fernando
Jalen Smith

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Dedric Lawson

Mike Daum
Jordan Murphy



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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Juwan Morgan
Brandon Clark
Grant Williams
Jarrett Culver

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