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Post#661 » by PoundTown » Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:25 pm

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TrueNorth31 wrote:The competition is going to be tough , but Stauskas wants to go to the Worlds.

“I hope I don’t jinx myself or whatever but since we qualified I’ve been telling my close family and friends: I’m going to China this summer,” he says. “I’m fully planning on being there … I know there’s a plethora of guards and wings to choose from so I don’t want to assume ‘oh yeah, I’m on the team’, but 100 per cent I would love to be a part of that team and it’s something that I still value, being part of Team Canada.”

https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/canadas-nik-stauskas-accepting-nba-reality-trail-blazers/

Unlike a lot of guys he seems somewhat enthusiastic.


I wonder about his defence at times, but he can shoot the three and he is a nice unselfish passer.


Would take him over Brady Heslip any day of the week


I think he makes it as about our 9th or 10th guy. To me your top 6 guys at the guard and SF position are Cojo, Murray, Brooks, Stauskas, SGA and Barrett. Yeah, I didn't include Wiggins, but even with Wiggins, makes sense to have 7 guys between those three positions.
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Post#662 » by PoundTown » Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:27 pm

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TrueNorth31 wrote:The competition is going to be tough , but Stauskas wants to go to the Worlds.

“I hope I don’t jinx myself or whatever but since we qualified I’ve been telling my close family and friends: I’m going to China this summer,” he says. “I’m fully planning on being there … I know there’s a plethora of guards and wings to choose from so I don’t want to assume ‘oh yeah, I’m on the team’, but 100 per cent I would love to be a part of that team and it’s something that I still value, being part of Team Canada.”

https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/canadas-nik-stauskas-accepting-nba-reality-trail-blazers/

Unlike a lot of guys he seems somewhat enthusiastic.


I wonder about his defence at times, but he can shoot the three and he is a nice unselfish passer.


Would take him over Brady Heslip any day of the week


I think he makes it as about our 9th or 10th guy. To me your top 6 guys at the guard and SF position are Cojo, Murray, Brooks, Stauskas, SGA and Barrett. Yeah, I didn't include Wiggins, but even with Wiggins, makes sense to have 7 guys between those three positions. Glad he wants to play, and I think a lot of the not playing in the past for him was because he's never really been stalbe in the league and when you're in that situation you try not to upset the team you're on and go by what they recommend you do in the summers, especially on your rookie deal. You see how all our guys act on their rookie deal - they get the Vancouver, Vegas and LA workout regimen. Even though the dude isn't fully stable yet, he is atleast somewhat a vet now.
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Post#663 » by MEDIC » Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:47 pm

WellYouKnow wrote:Agree on NAW. Seems crazy high for him. Seems like a classic really good college player who would struggle to replicate what he does in the pros.


I saw him play live at Biosteel & he impressed me
Stood out against the competition for sure.

I think he is NBA material & has a chance to he a decent 2 way player. Maybe an Anthony Parker type eventually.

13 still seems high, but scouts may see something that I don't.
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Post#664 » by MEDIC » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:19 pm

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/freshman-rankings-rj-barrett-is-the-national-freshman-of-the-week-closing-in-on-zion-williamson-in-frosh-watch/

This was CBS Sports NCAA freshman ranking posted on Dec 11. They said it was a toss up between Zion & RJ, but otherwise.......look at their top 5!!!

1. Zion Williamson
2. RJ BARRETT
3. LUGUENTZ DORT
4. IGNAS BRAZDEIKIS
5. Romeo Langford

Can't recall anything close to this in regards to NCAA Canadian ballers.
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Post#665 » by mojo13 » Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:26 am

PoundTown wrote:
TrueNorth31 wrote:In the Clarke Vecenie story he reiterated his Canadian roots

"Clarke was born in Vancouver, to a Canadian mother and a Jamaican father. When he was 3, his family moved to Phoenix, where he stayed through high school. From there, he was the typical late bloomer, surrounded by a great, supportive family."

I believe he has him ranked number 20 - just loves his defence.


Has Clarke ever had any interest in playing for Canada? Same story as Lyles but left Canada even earlier, and it seems like Lyles has very little interest as well.


Clarke is too new on the scene. He wasn't very good in highschool and I don't think anyone really recognized that he was from Canada until he started playing well for SJSU. And there has been no opportunity for him to play since then.
He is repping Canada on social media - so we may get access to him at some point.
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Post#666 » by mojo13 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:51 am

I'm really liking the draft work they are doing over at The Stepien lately:
First they updated their Big Board and have the Canadians as follows:

2. RJ Barrett
13. Nickeil Alexander Walker
19. Brandon Clarke
20. Ignas Brazdeikis
24. Simi Shittu
35. Andrew Nembhard
37. Luguentz Dort
98. AJ Lawson
With some write up in there on Iggy and NAW who they are getting really high on.
https://www.thestepien.com/2018/12/16/jackson-hoys-updated-top-100/


Second an interesting read on "Mirror Seasons" - past statistical seasons most like what the current crop of top prospects are producing so far. RJ's "Mirror Season" is freshman Glenn Robinson and Simi is looking like freshman Blake Griffin. They are not necessarily comping to these players, just pointing out the interesting "Mirror Seasons" and what it could mean.
https://www.thestepien.com/2018/12/12/draft-notes-shittu-reddish-little-mirror-seasons/
EDIT: I cant even post the link as it has Simi's last name in the URL and it gets filtered. So go to the home page and look for the "Draft Notes: $hi-ttu, Reddish, Little and Mirror Seasons" article if interested.

And I posted these before, but if you have not read the analysis on Lugenutz Dort and Brandon Clarke, they are very much worth the read.
https://www.thestepien.com/2018/12/06/draft-notes-need-talk-luguentz-dort/
https://www.thestepien.com/2018/12/03/analyzing-brandon-clarkes-nba-potential/
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Post#667 » by hsb » Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:06 am

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Post#668 » by Hair Canada » Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:53 pm

mojo13 wrote:I'm really liking the draft work they are doing over at The Stepien lately:
First they updated their Big Board and have the Canadians as follows:

2. RJ Barrett
13. Nickeil Alexander Walker
19. Brandon Clarke
20. Ignas Brazdeikis
24. Simi ****
35. Andrew Nembhard
37. Luguentz Dort
98. AJ Lawson
With some write up in there on Iggy and NAW who they are getting really high on.
https://www.thestepien.com/2018/12/16/jackson-hoys-updated-top-100/


Second an interesting read on "Mirror Seasons" - past statistical seasons most like what the current crop of top prospects are producing so far. RJ's "Mirror Season" is freshman Glenn Robinson and Simi is looking like freshman Blake Griffin. They are not necessarily comping to these players, just pointing out the interesting "Mirror Seasons" and what it could mean.
https://www.thestepien.com/2018/12/12/****/
EDIT: I cant even post the link as it has Simi's last name in the URL and it gets filtered. So go to the home page and look for the "Draft Notes: $hi-ttu, Reddish, Little and Mirror Seasons" article if interested.

And I posted these before, but if you have not read the analysis on Lugenutz Dort and Brandon Clarke, they are very much worth the read.
https://www.thestepien.com/2018/12/06/draft-notes-need-talk-luguentz-dort/
https://www.thestepien.com/2018/12/03/analyzing-brandon-clarkes-nba-potential/


Thanks for the links mojo. Very useful (I missed some of these).

Really interesting and optimistic stuff about Simi. Especially given his inability to score from outside the paint since the beginning of the season. A Blake comparison sounds great of course.

By the way, he and Dort met yesterday, as Vanderbilt beat Arizona state. Not a great game for Simi, but he did show his vision and handle again. Dort, on the other hand, has been in quite a slump the last two games. 11 points a game, shooting 5 of 23 from the field. The interesting thing is that his 3-point shot is actually falling just fine. But he can't buy a bucket at the paint. Teams have learned that he's going to the basket with force, with not much of a mid-range game, and are waiting for him there. As I've mentioned before, he's not the savviest finisher, and so when he goes one on 2 or 3, which worked for him in high school, he often gets rejected or just misses the target. I do like that he doesn't put his head down and stays in attack mentality. But he'll have to improve his finishing touch and decision making close to the rim. And I think he needs to play more off the ball. Just doesn't have the decision making of a PG.
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Post#669 » by aminiaturebuddha » Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:11 pm

Hair Canada wrote:
Thanks for the links mojo. Very useful (I missed some of these).

Really interesting and optimistic stuff about Simi. Especially given his inability to score from outside the paint since the beginning of the season. A Blake comparison sounds great of course.



I've only caught two Vanderbilt games so far this year, but what I've seen from Simi following his injuries last year (where I didn't really see anything of him), his game reminds me a bit of the Raptors' Pascal Siakam - an athletic big who has a good handle, can go coast to coast at times, has the athleticism to guard several positions, and has an (hopefully) expanding offensive game. Obviously Pascal is much further along in his development, but that might be a good target for Simi. He'll need to continue to refine his offensive game, and work on his defensive awareness, but I don't think it's completely out of reach for him to become a similar type of player.
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Post#670 » by Young_Buc » Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:00 am

The most impressive freshmen of the past 20 years?

Carmelo Anthony
(National champion)
22/10/2

Kevin Durant
25/11/1

RJ Barrett is currently
25/7/4

In terms of wing players, has there been a more statistically impressive one at a major school?
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Post#671 » by Hair Canada » Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:10 am

Jamal Murray has never had a double-digit assists game in his career. Until today. 13 assists... in the first half!
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Post#672 » by BilboBanginz » Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:47 pm

https://www.amestrib.com/sports/20181217/iowa-state-mens-basketball-lindell-wigginton-and-solomon-young-set-to-return-friday

Lindell Wigginton set to be back Friday. Will be interesting to see how he integrates with a team that is already playing really well.
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Post#673 » by Hair Canada » Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:51 pm

BilboBanginz wrote:https://www.amestrib.com/sports/20181217/iowa-state-mens-basketball-lindell-wigginton-and-solomon-young-set-to-return-friday

Lindell Wigginton set to be back Friday. Will be interesting to see how he integrates with a team that is already playing really well.


Yes, gonna be interesting. The two rookies, Haliburton and especially Horton-Tucker have NBA-level talent. Together with Shayok and Babb, that's 4 high-level players in the backcourt. Wiggy will have to show that he can take advantage of this talent level around him. If he can, they might be contenders.
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Post#674 » by Hair Canada » Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:07 pm

Kabengele with a career-high 24 points game yesterday. Despite playing only 18.5 minutes a game, he leads Florida State in points and they might be one of the best teams in college. I still think he needs another year in college to really assert himself. Koumadje, their 7'4 starting center, and Phil Cofer, who should be their leading scorer when he's back from injury, are both seniors and get big minutes in the frontcourt. Which means that next year Kabengele should have a chance to start and log big minutes. If it comes with big numbers (he needs to learn how to stay out of foul trouble better), he might be a first rounder. Hopefully, he can also improve his blocking, because that might be crucial for him to get minutes in the next level.

In any case, for those worried about our big situation when Olynyk-Thompson-Powell-Birch-Boucher grow older (all may still be in good shape for the 2023-24 cycle), let me put this out there:

Lyles (maybe), Clarke (maybe), Simi, Kabengele, Brissett (Iggy and Jackson can also play small-ball 4)
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Post#675 » by TrueNorth31 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:49 pm

Here's an aggregate look at the top 2019 draft board.

Five Canadian's in the top 31.

https://hoopshype.com/2018/12/17/zion-williamson-mock-draft-college-basketball-rumors-updates/
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Post#676 » by TrueNorth31 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:51 pm

Grunwald held a sit down state of the Union address.

They are asking for a month long commitment for the World Cup Team.

"Now Grunwald hopes more Canadian donors and sponsors will buy in as well. His biggest challenge is on the financial side. Footing the bill for numerous World Cup qualifying matches and camps, compared to one FIBA Americas tournament — under the old World Cup qualifying format — hasn’t been easy. And this summer will see the men’s team gather for a month, including a camp, potentially a couple of exhibition games in Canada, and games in Australia to get used to the time zone, before travelling to China."

https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/grunwald-canadian-basketball-one-best-sports-stories-2018/
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Post#677 » by Young_Buc » Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:33 pm

wish Masai had a pick, he'd find the Canadian gem we deserve.
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Post#678 » by mojo13 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:30 pm

Hair Canada wrote:Kabengele with a career-high 24 points game yesterday. Despite playing only 18.5 minutes a game, he leads Florida State in points and they might be one of the best teams in college. I still think he needs another year in college to really assert himself. Koumadje, their 7'4 starting center, and Phil Cofer, who should be their leading scorer when he's back from injury, are both seniors and get big minutes in the frontcourt. Which means that next year Kabengele should have a chance to start and log big minutes. If it comes with big numbers (he needs to learn how to stay out of foul trouble better), he might be a first rounder. Hopefully, he can also improve his blocking, because that might be crucial for him to get minutes in the next level.

In any case, for those worried about our big situation when Olynyk-Thompson-Powell-Birch-Boucher grow older (all may still be in good shape for the 2023-24 cycle), let me put this out there:

Lyles (maybe), Clarke (maybe), Simi, Kabengele, Brissett (Iggy and Jackson can also play small-ball 4)



Love it...as mentioned earlier I think Kabengele is a little under the radar among us as a draft prospect. He is a late bloomer and improving very quickly. Check out his per 36 or 40 and advanced stats if you really want to be impressed. He is putting up great stats and very good efficiency on very limited minutes.

However the Yin to that Yang is Oshae Brissett - or Oshae "Miss-it" and Syracuse fans are starting to call him. He really has been awful this year and he is dropping like a rock on the draft boards. Yes...he still has ideal physical tools to go with a great motor and a promising handle, but he's just horribly inefficient as a scorer. He has at least improved from being the worst finisher in the NCAA last season to now shooting 50% at the rim, which is progress. The problem is that his 3-point percentage and free throw shooting have tanked. It seems like he just doesn't have good natural touch.
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Post#679 » by Hair Canada » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:42 pm

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Hair Canada wrote:Kabengele with a career-high 24 points game yesterday. Despite playing only 18.5 minutes a game, he leads Florida State in points and they might be one of the best teams in college. I still think he needs another year in college to really assert himself. Koumadje, their 7'4 starting center, and Phil Cofer, who should be their leading scorer when he's back from injury, are both seniors and get big minutes in the frontcourt. Which means that next year Kabengele should have a chance to start and log big minutes. If it comes with big numbers (he needs to learn how to stay out of foul trouble better), he might be a first rounder. Hopefully, he can also improve his blocking, because that might be crucial for him to get minutes in the next level.

In any case, for those worried about our big situation when Olynyk-Thompson-Powell-Birch-Boucher grow older (all may still be in good shape for the 2023-24 cycle), let me put this out there:

Lyles (maybe), Clarke (maybe), Simi, Kabengele, Brissett (Iggy and Jackson can also play small-ball 4)



Love it...as mentioned earlier I think Kabengele is a little under the radar among us as a draft prospect. He is a late bloomer and improving very quickly. Check out his per 36 or 40 and advanced stats if you really want to be impressed. He is putting up great stats and very good efficiency on very limited minutes.

However the Yin to that Yang is Oshae Brissett - or Oshae "Miss-it" and Syracuse fans are starting to call him. He really has been awful this year and he is dropping like a rock on the draft boards. Yes...he still has ideal physical tools to go with a great motor and a promising handle, but he's just horribly inefficient as a scorer. He has at least improved from being the worst finisher in the NCAA last season to now shooting 50% at the rim, which is progress. The problem is that his 3-point percentage and free throw shooting have tanked. It seems like he just doesn't have good natural touch.


Yes, I think that's exactly it with Brissett, and it's not new. You could see that in high school already, when he played at AI. This is something that's very hard to improve on and always had me worried. And, as you say, it's really too bad because he has all the other qualities of a good NBA energy bench player. I watched the Syracuse game on Tuesday and it was the same thing. He started well, 4/4 from the field, but then just got to the rim time after time and missed point-blank shots. At one point, he missed a dunk, an easy layup, and another layup in a raw, and those were the minutes when Buffalo made its run. Gotta say though, it really don't help that the Orange play one of the ugliest offensive games in college basketball. They are really painful to watch as a team. To illustrate, in this game Brissett had more assists (4) than the rest of the team, put together! And he's their PF. I really dislike Battle and Hughes' selfish game. Howard is the only one there who would make a pass, but in general, just a selfish team that plays non-intelligent basketball. Perhaps they can turn things around, like they did last year (in the Big Dance sometimes simple basketball and zone defense like theirs works). But watching them play right now is quite an unpleasant experience.

By the way, Quincy Guerrier, perhaps the best Canadian prospect in the 2019 class, is going to join Syracuse as well next year. I have to say that unless Battle and maybe Hughes as well go to the draft (unlikely the way they are playing), then it doesn't look like the best decision. Passing and decision making is not his strongest suit as well.
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Post#680 » by mojo13 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 12:45 am

In some cool news MiKyle McIntosh is joining the 905 as they traded for him with the Wisconsin Herd.
McIntosh was not playing in the G from what I can tell. He started the season in South Korea with Anyang and that ended in late November. Seems like he was in T.O. and the 905 were able to swing it to get him on board.

Cool to see the 905/Raps go out of their way to get young Canadian talent. Seems just as much to do with the ties to Team Canada and I expect we seem him with the team in February for the last WC Qualifier windows.

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