WWE General Discussion II

Spens1 · Post #421 » by **Spens1** » Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:02 am

WWE have signed WALTER somehow (given he doesn't like travelling i'm not sure how they did it, maybe UK exclusive). Meaning he's going to be the next UK champ guaranteed. WWE doing their best to kill off any European and UK wrestling right now and they may just have done it. I mean sure RevPro is solid but it is a superindy in the same vein as PWG and OTT is far too small to do much right now. Massive shame he isn't going to be in WXW now as well (i think the entirety of RingKampf are in WWE now, as is British Strong Style, yikes).

On the WWE side of things though, this is a damn good signing, if they can convince him to go to NXT though, if not this is a waste to pay him what he'd be on (a decent amount). He is about as good as the top talent in NXT right now and he's a damn good brawler, unique really given the company lacks a lot of 300lbs + guys (well who are good at least). He's easily better than Punishment Martinez, Donovan Dijak and Crimson.

Also if they do nothing else, Keith Lee vs WALTER will be nuts.

NXT will need a 2nd hour though for sure.

daoneandonly · Post #422 » by **daoneandonly** » Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:06 pm

I just cant help how bad som,e of the NXT greats have been utilized on the main roster, very disappointing and discouraging. I mean who has really stayed the course or even got better on the main roster than their NXT runs. The Shield, McIntyre, maybe Big E, and Elias are the only ones that really come to mind.

They've totally dropped the ball on Owens, Zayn, Nakamura, Almas, Roode, Joe, Balor, Revival, Dallas, etc.

Spens1 · Post #423 » by **Spens1** » Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:33 pm

Its main roster booking, Vince's micromanagement has killed them all.

In fairness to them, Balor and Nakamura had shown next to nothing though on the main roster and Roode came out of NXT vastly overrated i thought (he was good sure, but not that good). Dallas's character in NXT was never sadly going to be replicated (shame too, the best NXT heel to date other than Kevin Owens and Tommaso Ciampa).

What happened to the Revival, K.O and Zayn is criminal. Zayn should be a world champ by now, K.O should be a former multi time world champ by now and top heel and Revival should be the staple of the tag team division alongside The Usos and New Day.

But again we could talk about all the misused talent until the cows come home, but nothing will change as long as they have a roster that is way too large and Vince being a terrible head booker.

improper · Post #424 » by **improper** » Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:26 pm

Until Vince dies, nothing will change. They're going to have to pry his corpse from gorilla.

iMoreland · Post #425 » by **iMoreland** » Fri Dec 7, 2018 11:28 pm

"Knicks center Enes Kanter is the NBA’s most self-aware wrestling character. He also wants to be a WWE star."

https://theathletic.com/689797/2018/12/06/knicks-center-enes-kanter-is-the-nbas-most-self-aware-wrestling-character-he-also-wants-to-be-a-wwe-star/

Pretty cool, I think it's highly likely he ends up in WWE when his basketball career is over. Why wouldn't WWE want a 6'11" big man like him?

Scott Hall · Post #426 » by **Scott Hall** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 6:06 pm

Read on Twitter

WRau1 · Post #427 » by **WRau1** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:43 am

I don't know, Nakamura was put in a pretty good spot right out of the gate on the main roster. The main audience just hasn't clicked with him. Within a couple months he had clean victories over Cena and Orton, had a program with Mahal for the title, Won a Royal Rumble, had a pretty long program with Styles including WM. That's a pretty good 1st year.

improper · Post #428 » by **improper** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:37 am

WRau1 wrote:I don't know, Nakamura was put in a pretty good spot right out of the gate on the main roster. The main audience just hasn't clicked with him. Within a couple months he had clean victories over Cena and Orton, had a program with Mahal for the title, Won a Royal Rumble, had a pretty long program with Styles including WM. That's a pretty good 1st year.

He really needed to beat Styles after his heel turn. He seemed like he was starting to heat up after he turned at 'Mania but, like with a lot of guys, having him put the champ over repeatedly really cooled him off. It also makes the heel turn pretty pointless when it doesn't even result in you winning the feud.

Post #429 » by **Stanford** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:06 pm

(Make sure you check out the match of the year thread I stickied)

Scott Hall · Post #430 » by **Scott Hall** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:56 pm

Read on Twitter

Post #431 » by **Stanford** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:00 pm

He's a big Robert Gibson fan

LLJ · Post #432 » by **LLJ** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:48 pm

improper wrote:
WRau1 wrote:I don't know, Nakamura was put in a pretty good spot right out of the gate on the main roster. The main audience just hasn't clicked with him. Within a couple months he had clean victories over Cena and Orton, had a program with Mahal for the title, Won a Royal Rumble, had a pretty long program with Styles including WM. That's a pretty good 1st year.

He really needed to beat Styles after his heel turn. He seemed like he was starting to heat up after he turned at 'Mania but, like with a lot of guys, having him put the champ over repeatedly really cooled him off. It also makes the heel turn pretty pointless when it doesn't even result in you winning the feud.

They could have even had him win the WWE belt for a month or two, and then dropped it back to Styles at the end. Same with Joe (or even had Joe win it off him period) I don't know the purpose to Styles' 1 year reign, I thought they were trying to beat Punk's reign but obviously that didn't happen.

iMoreland · Post #433 » by **iMoreland** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:07 pm

Apparently Jason Jordan was in Birmingham Alabama recently to find out if he needs to retire or if he can return to the ring, fingers crossed for good news

improper · Post #434 » by **improper** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:54 pm

iMoreland wrote:Apparently Jason Jordan was in Birmingham Alabama recently to find out if he needs to retire or if he can return to the ring, fingers crossed for good news

Would be a real shame if it's a career-ender for him, because he was just finding his footing and properly getting himself over as a heel right before he got hurt.

Scott Hall · Post #435 » by **Scott Hall** » Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:39 pm

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LLJ · Post #436 » by **LLJ** » Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:49 pm

Two things that I see from the chart:

The brand split has greatly benefited Smackdown's numbers the past 3 years.

RAW post-Wrestlemania has been on a big downturn in 2018

improper · Post #437 » by **improper** » Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:32 pm

LLJ wrote:The brand split has greatly benefited Smackdown's numbers the past 3 years.

Makes sense, as they just completely stop giving a crap about Smackdown when there's no brand split, as it just becomes a crappier rehash of Raw.

LLJ · Post #438 » by **LLJ** » Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:32 am

I also think dual branded PPVs has ultimately hurt both the quality of the PPVs and the focus of the TV programs. Since the writers only care about title feuds now that PPVs are dual branded , there are only 4-6 people on each brand really worth a damn now. Notice how RAW was actually competitive with the previous year from January to April. From May onward is when the trouble started.

tugs · Post #439 » by **tugs** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:36 am

Wonder why they had to record episodes for next week right after the live shows. Saw results and I found it underwhelming.

improper · Post #440 » by **improper** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:59 am

tugs wrote:Wonder why they had to record episodes for next week right after the live shows. Saw results and I found it underwhelming.

Because Monday is Christmas Eve and Tuesday is Christmas day.

The ratings tell us that they can barely get people to tune in on non-holidays, so there's little point in them having live shows on Christmas.