PG: Knox Life

[blanko]

Gotta admit, mux is playing well

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[The KnicksFix]

A friendly reminder. Mudiay is younger than Trier.

Wait.... really?

[blueNorange]

knox will be alright, his worst case scenario is still a productive player.

[Ray Williams]

He has his faults, but this dude is like a proud papa on nights like this and that's cool. Every player from Mudiay to Kornet rides for him so far. His accent/voice make everything he says more enjoyable. He's like the anti-Hornacek in that regard. First response in his postgame interview:

Too bad he loves Tammy more

[whocares1]

Best stat of the night:
Knox 20/3/1bl
Bridges 6/2

Knox: 42 minutes
Bridges: 10 minutes

[Juco24]

Kornet was given a chance and he took it.

And I'd rather have him over Kanter. And I'm serious

[Juco24]

I’m not ashamed to say I learn about college guys from y’all. *runs to YouTube*

Ja Morant is legit. He'd look niiiiiiiiice throwing lobs to Knox, Robinson & KP.

--Mags

Is there a reason why a casual college/HS fan has not heard about him?

Where he plays.... Murray state and he's improved tremendously. I said in another thread he reminds me of Lillard. Dude is LEGIT and plays very unselfish but still attacks and is aggressive. Looks to be a LEGIT 6'3. Most impressive to me is his passing ability with either hand. Kid's good

[Fat Kat]

Malik Monk: 9 points. You would have sworn he had 30 points by the way he was carrying on.

If I was on the Knicks and was buddies with those bench players on the Hornets, I'd post some kind of video showing them dancing all around in the first half to highlights of the 4th quarter and OT. That would teach those suckers to quiet down in the first quarter at least.

Monk looks like he's begging to play in China. So, remind me, who here were on that Monk Train before the '17 draft?

Bunch of folks. Those old draft threads are a hoot. Found this interesting though.

Marcus wrote:
Question for those familiar with both prospects

Alonzo Trier.

Do you guys feel there is a massive gap in what he brings to the table compared to what Malik Monk brings to the table? If they switch Wildcat jerseys would their big boards rankings be the same

That question wasn’t received well at that time.

[Juco24]

The entire time I was watching Kornet... I was envisioning Porzingis with all that space.

I am SOOOO torn over Mudiay. I think the big question is consistency. As stated b4, he has the physical tools to be good & he's still young

All those experts & others who said Knox was a PF?? GET OUTTA HERE. Dude is a SF and a good one who'll just get better. And his help defense is better than his on man D.

When THJ plays WITHIN HIMSELF & CONTROLLED he's not bad. He needs to understand that he'll never be a first or even constant 2nd option on a decent team so pick his spots.

And we can thank Monk for lighting a fire in this team. After his clowning, the Knicks seemed to have gotten pissed. Monk = MVP

If we did get the #1, I'm not so sure I wouldn't go Barrett

Frank/Mud, Barrett, Knox, KP, Von.... with THJ, Zo, Mitch, Dot, Lance,Luke

[MaseInYourFace]

Ja Morant is legit. He'd look niiiiiiiiice throwing lobs to Knox, Robinson & KP.

--Mags

Is there a reason why a casual college/HS fan has not heard about him?

Where he plays.... Murray state and he's improved tremendously. I said in another thread he reminds me of Lillard. Dude is LEGIT and plays very unselfish but still attacks and is aggressive. Looks to be a LEGIT 6'3. Most impressive to me is his passing ability with either hand. Kid's good

He looks taller though. His wingspan must be pretty up there.

[MaseInYourFace]

Yeah the room assumes renouncing junk. But now he’s looking less junky. Also you don’t have to renounce him until someone comes. You can tell KD you have $X room with the future renouncing.

is he though. these games are not that often. he's had more bad shooting games this month than good ones. he's bad defensively. he commits a lot of turnovers. would you really want to commit to a multi-year deal for him ? if we bring him back on a 1 year deal if nobody comes that's fine i guess, but i'm not really even into that. i would hope we start frank or whoever we draft next year (if we draft a point guard).

he's really not less junky. He now has one really good game and then follows that up with 3 or 4 poor games. He's really not worth investing long term $$$ in so I have no idea why people would want to.

He's been playing pretty well overall for about a month and change now. I know each of us have different concepts of what is playing well or playing poor and I really don't wanna get into those particulars. However, I think this is an example of being extra hard on a dude cuz you don't like him. I think most would agree he's in the midst of a sustained run of quality play.

[whocares1]

The entire time I was watching Kornet... I was envisioning Porzingis with all that space.

I am SOOOO torn over Mudiay. I think the big question is consistency. As stated b4, he has the physical tools to be good & he's still young

All those experts & others who said Knox was a PF?? GET OUTTA HERE. Dude is a SF and a good one who'll just get better. And his help defense is better than his on man D.

When THJ plays WITHIN HIMSELF & CONTROLLED he's not bad. He needs to understand that he'll never be a first or even constant 2nd option on a decent team so pick his spots.

And we can thank Monk for lighting a fire in this team. After his clowning, the Knicks seemed to have gotten pissed. Monk = MVP

If we did get the #1, I'm not so sure I wouldn't go Barrett

Frank/Mud, Barrett, Knox, KP, Von.... with THJ, Zo, Mitch, Dot, Lance,Luke

What exactly did Knox do that made him a 3 instead of a 4?

[thebuzzardman]

Watch on YouTube

[Juco24]

Is there a reason why a casual college/HS fan has not heard about him?

Where he plays.... Murray state and he's improved tremendously. I said in another thread he reminds me of Lillard. Dude is LEGIT and plays very unselfish but still attacks and is aggressive. Looks to be a LEGIT 6'3. Most impressive to me is his passing ability with either hand. Kid's good

He looks taller though. His wingspan must be pretty up there.

I agree! Best PG in the country imo

[DOT]

He has his faults, but this dude is like a proud papa on nights like this and that's cool. Every player from Mudiay to Kornet rides for him so far. His accent/voice make everything he says more enjoyable. He's like the anti-Hornacek in that regard. First response in his postgame interview:

Too bad he loves Tammy more

He views Timothy as one of the kids

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[Juco24]

The entire time I was watching Kornet... I was envisioning Porzingis with all that space.

I am SOOOO torn over Mudiay. I think the big question is consistency. As stated b4, he has the physical tools to be good & he's still young

All those experts & others who said Knox was a PF?? GET OUTTA HERE. Dude is a SF and a good one who'll just get better. And his help defense is better than his on man D.

When THJ plays WITHIN HIMSELF & CONTROLLED he's not bad. He needs to understand that he'll never be a first or even constant 2nd option on a decent team so pick his spots.

And we can thank Monk for lighting a fire in this team. After his clowning, the Knicks seemed to have gotten pissed. Monk = MVP

If we did get the #1, I'm not so sure I wouldn't go Barrett

Frank/Mud, Barrett, Knox, KP, Von.... with THJ, Zo, Mitch, Dot, Lance,Luke

What exactly did Knox do that made him a 3 instead of a 4?

* He CAN'T guard 4s. Too small. Can he get stronger? Sure! But I don't think you'd want him to get heavy as it may take away from his quickness

* His handles and ability to handle in traffic is more like a 3

* His first step and quickness is more a 3

* Maybe most importantly- we have an all-star 4 and even if we move him to the 5, I don't want to see him & Knox @ the 5&4

I truly believe Knox & KP can play well together but they'll need a (Vonlehs perfect) tough inside 'do the dirty work' guy alongside

[thebuzzardman]

The entire time I was watching Kornet... I was envisioning Porzingis with all that space.

I am SOOOO torn over Mudiay. I think the big question is consistency. As stated b4, he has the physical tools to be good & he's still young

All those experts & others who said Knox was a PF?? GET OUTTA HERE. Dude is a SF and a good one who'll just get better. And his help defense is better than his on man D.

When THJ plays WITHIN HIMSELF & CONTROLLED he's not bad. He needs to understand that he'll never be a first or even constant 2nd option on a decent team so pick his spots.

And we can thank Monk for lighting a fire in this team. After his clowning, the Knicks seemed to have gotten pissed. Monk = MVP

If we did get the #1, I'm not so sure I wouldn't go Barrett

Frank/Mud, Barrett, Knox, KP, Von.... with THJ, Zo, Mitch, Dot, Lance,Luke

What exactly did Knox do that made him a 3 instead of a 4?

* He CAN'T guard 4s. Too small. Can he get stronger? Sure! But I don't think you'd want him to get heavy as it may take away from his quickness

* His handles and ability to handle in traffic is more like a 3

* His first step and quickness is more a 3

* Maybe most importantly- we have an all-star 4 and even if we move him to the 5, I don't want to see him & Knox @ the 5&4

I truly believe Knox & KP can play well together but they'll need a (Vonlehs perfect) tough inside 'do the dirty work' guy alongside

This. If anything, Knox is a tweener between 3/4, which isn't a big deal as most 4's now ARE tweener 3's or pure 3's, moved to the 4. At this point in his career he gives up something on defense at both positions, so why not either? I'm not advocating for him at the 4, just pointing out, as you say, no reason he can't play the 3. I like him because even now he can see time at both positions, which opens up lineup possibilities.

[thebuzzardman]

Looking at Knox's all 20 possessions. Early in the game, Knox was hot and both lineups got him the ball - starting and bench. What happened in the 2nd half? He barely got the ball? Did the defense tighten up on him or did the guards just forget about getting him the ball, or both? I sort of skipped watching after the first half but came back in for the last 2 minutes/OT.

[DOT]

Looking at Knox's all 20 possessions. Early in the game, Knox was hot and both lineups got him the ball - starting and bench. What happened in the 2nd half? He barely got the ball? Did the defense tighten up on him or did the guards just forget about getting him the ball, or both? I sort of skipped watching after the first half but came back in for the last 2 minutes/OT.

Mudiay decided to play hero ball

It worked, but that's not the point

It's like what I said in the game thread, Mudiay is horrible at running the offense and getting the ball to the hot hand

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[whocares1]

The entire time I was watching Kornet... I was envisioning Porzingis with all that space.

I am SOOOO torn over Mudiay. I think the big question is consistency. As stated b4, he has the physical tools to be good & he's still young

All those experts & others who said Knox was a PF?? GET OUTTA HERE. Dude is a SF and a good one who'll just get better. And his help defense is better than his on man D.

When THJ plays WITHIN HIMSELF & CONTROLLED he's not bad. He needs to understand that he'll never be a first or even constant 2nd option on a decent team so pick his spots.

And we can thank Monk for lighting a fire in this team. After his clowning, the Knicks seemed to have gotten pissed. Monk = MVP

If we did get the #1, I'm not so sure I wouldn't go Barrett

Frank/Mud, Barrett, Knox, KP, Von.... with THJ, Zo, Mitch, Dot, Lance,Luke

What exactly did Knox do that made him a 3 instead of a 4?

* He CAN'T guard 4s. Too small. Can he get stronger? Sure! But I don't think you'd want him to get heavy as it may take away from his quickness

* His handles and ability to handle in traffic is more like a 3

* His first step and quickness is more a 3

* Maybe most importantly- we have an all-star 4 and even if we move him to the 5, I don't want to see him & Knox @ the 5&4

I truly believe Knox & KP can play well together but they'll need a (Vonlehs perfect) tough inside 'do the dirty work' guy alongside

-I wouldn’t talk about defense when it comes to Knox. He’s not a three because of his inability to defend the perimeter. He would be better off defending slower footed 4s. Obviously he isn’t physically ready to defend 4s full time but that will be where he resides in the future when he matures physically. Adding more muscle won’t slow him down, look at Giannis and Lebron, both added large amounts of muscle and are as quick as ever.

-No idea what this means. So does that mean there aren’t any 3-D wings in the NBA? His handles have nothing to do with what position he should play. Whether he can handle the ball or not doesn’t make him a 3 or a 4.

-His foot speed offensively would be even better if he was being defended by 4s, but again feel free to reread my second point.

-KP himself is a hybrid but definitely is more of a 5 than a 4. Knox is more of a 4 than a 3. Who knows how the future shapes up, but I can see a whole bunch of lineups with Knox either at the 3 or 4, that’s the great thing about today’s NBA. Players are more interchange. Knox however isn’t a pure 3 because of his defense and not his offense.