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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc 

Post#381 » by tiderulz » Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:29 pm

Furinkazan wrote:
MoMM wrote:
Furinkazan wrote:This reminds our whiteboard screw up.

We are not the only one who did it...

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yeah we are in very good company :lol:

well, they dont look too bad right now
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Post#382 » by OrlChamps2030 » Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:39 pm

Knightro wrote:I'm think I'm going to pass on Fultz at this point.

Not sure I want his 9M on the books for next year without being able to know if he's completely damaged goods or not. Would rather have that 9M available to sign a different PG.

I haven’t really checked much of this FA PG class other than the big names, what PGs are out there?
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Post#383 » by Furinkazan » Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:59 pm

tiderulz wrote:
Furinkazan wrote:
MoMM wrote:We are not the only one who did it...

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yeah we are in very good company :lol:

well, they dont look too bad right now


which gives us hope
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Post#384 » by MagicFan4Lyfe » Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:55 pm

Furinkazan wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
Furinkazan wrote:
yeah we are in very good company :lol:

well, they dont look too bad right now


which gives us hope



We have no hope.

WeHam still evaluating. :banghead:
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Post#385 » by NotACat » Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:07 pm

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Knightro wrote:I'm think I'm going to pass on Fultz at this point.

Not sure I want his 9M on the books for next year without being able to know if he's completely damaged goods or not. Would rather have that 9M available to sign a different PG.

I haven’t really checked much of this FA PG class other than the big names, what PGs are out there?

Rubio and Bledsoe are the highlights. Dragic can opt out, though I don't think he does.
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Post#386 » by CalOrl11 » Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:11 pm

Oubre has gone to the Sun's, I'm bored can we make a trade :lol:
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Post#387 » by BadMofoPimp » Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:25 pm

BAMBAEXPRESS wrote:
Furinkazan wrote:
tiderulz wrote:well, they dont look too bad right now


which gives us hope



We have no hope.

WeHam still evaluating. :banghead:


I guess that makes 28 other teams GM's still evaluating with their fans wondering why they are not making mad trades like they can in NBA2K. As if it is that easy.
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Post#388 » by j-ragg » Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:31 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
BAMBAEXPRESS wrote:
Furinkazan wrote:
which gives us hope



We have no hope.

WeHam still evaluating. :banghead:


I guess that makes 28 other teams GM's still evaluating with their fans wondering why they are not making mad trades like they can in NBA2K. As if it is that easy.

No one is asking for a 2k shakeup but when the new front office's biggest acquisition in almost two years is Jerian Grant (who might be the worst player in the NBA) I think it's safe to question. "as if it is that easy" :lol:
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Post#389 » by pepe1991 » Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:38 pm

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Post#390 » by darthmerrick » Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:51 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Be patient, this is first three decades of sencuary are rebuilding years. Ship in 12 years


It was one of the weirdest quotes I have ever heard any executive make when Martins said his goal was to win a championship in 15 years whilst every major young player we just drafted would essentially be out of their prime by then.

So he was cryptically announcing are goal was to tank until we landed multiple superstars and then they start messing with the tank to land outside the top 5?

I almost feel this ownership's real plan is to lose, stay mediocre, drive fans away so they can move the team to Vegas, Kansas City or Seattle.
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Post#391 » by MagicFan4Lyfe » Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:55 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
BAMBAEXPRESS wrote:
Furinkazan wrote:
which gives us hope



We have no hope.

WeHam still evaluating. :banghead:


I guess that makes 28 other teams GM's still evaluating with their fans wondering why they are not making mad trades like they can in NBA2K. As if it is that easy.


We don’t need to be making mad trades or doing anything reckless. But adding a 20 year old rookie who needs years to develop his game and body and some fringe NBA players to a lottery team doesn’t scream ‘hope’ or ‘progress’.
Where is this team going to get it’s growth? We have maxed out as a fringe 8th seed playoff team. Will get destroyed by Toronto in first round, end up with the 17th pick in the draft and wheel out the same team for the 2019-2020 season.
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Post#392 » by BadMofoPimp » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:15 pm

j-ragg wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
BAMBAEXPRESS wrote:

We have no hope.

WeHam still evaluating. :banghead:


I guess that makes 28 other teams GM's still evaluating with their fans wondering why they are not making mad trades like they can in NBA2K. As if it is that easy.

No one is asking for a 2k shakeup but when the new front office's biggest acquisition in almost two years is Jerian Grant (who might be the worst player in the NBA) I think it's safe to question. "as if it is that easy" :lol:


Maybe trade proposals other teams are willing to deal with the Magic have a massive downgrade in talent or don't fit team needs.
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Post#393 » by BadMofoPimp » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:17 pm

BAMBAEXPRESS wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
BAMBAEXPRESS wrote:

We have no hope.

WeHam still evaluating. :banghead:


I guess that makes 28 other teams GM's still evaluating with their fans wondering why they are not making mad trades like they can in NBA2K. As if it is that easy.


We don’t need to be making mad trades or doing anything reckless. But adding a 20 year old rookie who needs years to develop his game and body and some fringe NBA players to a lottery team doesn’t scream ‘hope’ or ‘progress’.
Where is this team going to get it’s growth? We have maxed out as a fringe 8th seed playoff team. Will get destroyed by Toronto in first round, end up with the 17th pick in the draft and wheel out the same team for the 2019-2020 season.


If the team makes the playoffs this year, that is called development. Each year they will keep getting better. You don't go from Bottom to Contender in one or two years. And, if the team keeps growing then it will get easier to obtain talented Free Agents or make better trades.
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Post#394 » by pepe1991 » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:28 pm

darthmerrick wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Be patient, this is first three decades of sencuary are rebuilding years. Ship in 12 years


It was one of the weirdest quotes I have ever heard any executive make when Martins said his goal was to win a championship in 15 years whilst every major young player we just drafted would essentially be out of their prime by then.

So he was cryptically announcing are goal was to tank until we landed multiple superstars and then they start messing with the tank to land outside the top 5?

I almost feel this ownership's real plan is to lose, stay mediocre, drive fans away so they can move the team to Vegas, Kansas City or Seattle.


Agree, bizzare qoute.
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Post#395 » by OrlandO » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:44 pm

darthmerrick wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Be patient, this is first three decades of sencuary are rebuilding years. Ship in 12 years


It was one of the weirdest quotes I have ever heard any executive make when Martins said his goal was to win a championship in 15 years whilst every major young player we just drafted would essentially be out of their prime by then.

So he was cryptically announcing are goal was to tank until we landed multiple superstars and then they start messing with the tank to land outside the top 5?

I almost feel this ownership's real plan is to lose, stay mediocre, drive fans away so they can move the team to Vegas, Kansas City or Seattle.

Context is key. It was a series of fluff pieces by the O-Sentinel... they went around asking major business leaders around Orlando to make predictions about their business and the Orlando area specifically for the year 2030. Martins said he thought the Magic would win at least 1 championship by 2030. People making a big deal out of nothing. https://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/orlando-2030/
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Post#396 » by Furinkazan » Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:25 pm

meanwhile our GMs pretend they are working hard
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Post#397 » by npiper17 » Sun Dec 16, 2018 12:39 am

OrlandO wrote:
darthmerrick wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Be patient, this is first three decades of sencuary are rebuilding years. Ship in 12 years


It was one of the weirdest quotes I have ever heard any executive make when Martins said his goal was to win a championship in 15 years whilst every major young player we just drafted would essentially be out of their prime by then.

So he was cryptically announcing are goal was to tank until we landed multiple superstars and then they start messing with the tank to land outside the top 5?

I almost feel this ownership's real plan is to lose, stay mediocre, drive fans away so they can move the team to Vegas, Kansas City or Seattle.

Context is key. It was a series of fluff pieces by the O-Sentinel... they went around asking major business leaders around Orlando to make predictions about their business and the Orlando area specifically for the year 2030. Martins said he thought the Magic would win at least 1 championship by 2030. People making a big deal out of nothing. https://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/orlando-2030/


Could not agree more. It’s embarrassing how often this gets brought up by people who don’t understand the context in which it was said.
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Post#398 » by darthmerrick » Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:03 am

npiper17 wrote:
OrlandO wrote:
darthmerrick wrote:
It was one of the weirdest quotes I have ever heard any executive make when Martins said his goal was to win a championship in 15 years whilst every major young player we just drafted would essentially be out of their prime by then.

So he was cryptically announcing are goal was to tank until we landed multiple superstars and then they start messing with the tank to land outside the top 5?

I almost feel this ownership's real plan is to lose, stay mediocre, drive fans away so they can move the team to Vegas, Kansas City or Seattle.

Context is key. It was a series of fluff pieces by the O-Sentinel... they went around asking major business leaders around Orlando to make predictions about their business and the Orlando area specifically for the year 2030. Martins said he thought the Magic would win at least 1 championship by 2030. People making a big deal out of nothing. https://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/orlando-2030/


Could not agree more. It’s embarrassing how often this gets brought up by people who don’t understand the context in which it was said.


I completely understand the context of which it was said, why are you embarrassed by it getting brought up all the time? Are you a member of the Devos family? It was a weird ass thing to say regardless and it's going to keep being brought up on here as long as this team continues to have no direction for the future.

As part of a series the Orlando Sentinel published this weekend on what Orlando will look like in 2030, Brian Schmitz of the Orlando Sentinel asked the Magic CEO for his predictions on the team. Martins was confident the Magic will win a title in the future:

“I certainly believe by 2030 we will have won a championship,” Martins said. I firmly believe we’re going to get there and once you get there, you got the kind of team that hopefully can come back. I believe we will have won a championship.”
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Post#399 » by npiper17 » Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:14 am

darthmerrick wrote:
npiper17 wrote:
OrlandO wrote:Context is key. It was a series of fluff pieces by the O-Sentinel... they went around asking major business leaders around Orlando to make predictions about their business and the Orlando area specifically for the year 2030. Martins said he thought the Magic would win at least 1 championship by 2030. People making a big deal out of nothing. https://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/orlando-2030/


Could not agree more. It’s embarrassing how often this gets brought up by people who don’t understand the context in which it was said.


I completely understand the context of which it was said, why are you embarrassed by it getting brought up all the time? Are you a member of the Devos family? It was a weird ass thing to say regardless and it's going to keep being brought up on here as long as this team continues to have no direction for the future.

As part of a series the Orlando Sentinel published this weekend on what Orlando will look like in 2030, Brian Schmitz of the Orlando Sentinel asked the Magic CEO for his predictions on the team. Martins was confident the Magic will win a title in the future:

“I certainly believe by 2030 we will have won a championship,” Martins said. I firmly believe we’re going to get there and once you get there, you got the kind of team that hopefully can come back. I believe we will have won a championship.”


Sorry but your post suggests you didn’t read the Martins quote - he didn’t say the goal is to win a championship by the year 2030 and we’ll base our tanking / team building around that. He was asked where the Magic would be in 2030 and he said his hope is that they would have won a championship and have a winning team.

And it’s embarrassing because people should take the time to appreciate the context of what people say. It raises the level of debate at a time when this is at an all-time low in all areas of society generally. I’m not saying you didn’t take the time to do this, I think you just misread the quote.
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Post#400 » by woosah » Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:36 am

Furinkazan wrote:meanwhile our GMs pretend they are working hard

Everyone knows they are sitting on their hands (and farting on them lol) doing NOTHING, and collecting that check.

aka "evaluating"
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