Lakers Players Put Hands Behind Back To Protest Foul Calls Against Rockets

[Clyde Frazier]

Harden draws real contact wether you like the way he does it or not. LeBron in contrast is blatantly flopping on no contact or ridiculously exaggerating the slightest of touches. Stop right there you "not even close to a leBron fan" boy.

LOL

You're flat out blind if you actually believe what you just wrote.

Which part of my statement is not accurate in your opinion? Unfortunately you failed to address any point made, "LOL" does not count as argument in my book. Do i really need to link you to some of Brons best phantom calls and flops?

SMH, people should invest a bit of time in studying the actual RULES of the game. Harden is not pleasant to watch but all he does is exploit the weaknesses in the rule set. Its like KD's infamous swing through, or DWade lunging side ways into people to draw contact. Its not their fault they use it to their advantage; thats their job as professional players. Its not the refs' job to ignore violations either. The league has to make an effort to improve the rules. This season, they actually made them even worse.

A grown ass man who constantly talks about greatness and how he is an icon and whatnot crying like a little baby and flopping all over, while he himself routinely runs over people without ever being called for HALF the fouls he commits is an embarrassment to the game on the other hand. I'm not exactly a Kobe fanboy but that is weak stuff he never needed.

I never said the tactics harden uses aren't a skill. However, it's a skill the league needs to advise refs to abolish. His tactics are 3 fold: create contact by lowering his shoulder, snap his head back and flail his arms. He also has long strides and knows the angles to hit to be most effective when doing this. When you aren't actually trying to score and just foul baiting, that's embarrassing.

The league *can* do something about this. They already did after the season (i believe 2 years ago) where harden and many others were foul baiting from behind the 3PT line at an insane rate. It doesn't happen nearly as much anymore.

I also never said lebron doesn't flop. His flops just don't come nearly as often on his drives. He actually tries to finish at the rim considering he's one of the best of all time in that regard.

[Vegeta10176]

LOL

You're flat out blind if you actually believe what you just wrote.

Which part of my statement is not accurate in your opinion? Unfortunately you failed to address any point made, "LOL" does not count as argument in my book. Do i really need to link you to some of Brons best phantom calls and flops?

SMH, people should invest a bit of time in studying the actual RULES of the game. Harden is not pleasant to watch but all he does is exploit the weaknesses in the rule set. Its like KD's infamous swing through, or DWade lunging side ways into people to draw contact. Its not their fault they use it to their advantage; thats their job as professional players. Its not the refs' job to ignore violations either. The league has to make an effort to improve the rules. This season, they actually made them even worse.

A grown ass man who constantly talks about greatness and how he is an icon and whatnot crying like a little baby and flopping all over, while he himself routinely runs over people without ever being called for HALF the fouls he commits is an embarrassment to the game on the other hand. I'm not exactly a Kobe fanboy but that is weak stuff he never needed.

I never said the tactics harden uses aren't a skill. However, it's a skill the league needs to advise refs to abolish. His tactics are 3 fold: create contact by lowering his shoulder, snap his head back and flail his arms. He also has long strides and knows the angles to hit to be most effective when doing this. When you aren't actually trying to score and just foul baiting, that's embarrassing.

The league *can* do something about this. They already did after the season (i believe 2 years ago) where harden and many others were foul baiting from behind the 3PT line at an insane rate. It doesn't happen nearly as much anymore.

I also never said lebron doesn't flop. His flops just don't come nearly as often on his drives. He actually tries to finish at the rim considering he's one of the best of all time in that regard.

Lebron picks up way more contact and gets less calls than Harden.. Its is recognized by pretty much everyone including LBJ hater Skip Bayless that LBJ should get a ton more foul calls. Harden is getting calls where there is no contact and also he is getting calls where he creates all the contact.. does LBJ flop yep does harden flop yep does every NBA star flop yep.. Do I like it nope.. But LBJ does the same as any other star player he gets less calls.. MJ also got star treatment go look at the dream team who teased MJ as in do not blow on MJ you will get a foul..

[daniel3]

I also never said lebron doesn't flop. His flops just don't come nearly as often on his drives. He actually tries to finish at the rim considering he's one of the best of all time in that regard.

That's a key difference, one flops from frustration and at varying times while one has his whole game geared around drawing fouls. I literally feel like Harden in one game could equal Lebron's flopping compilation from the span of a decade.

[LesGrossman]

Which part of my statement is not accurate in your opinion? Unfortunately you failed to address any point made, "LOL" does not count as argument in my book. Do i really need to link you to some of Brons best phantom calls and flops?

SMH, people should invest a bit of time in studying the actual RULES of the game. Harden is not pleasant to watch but all he does is exploit the weaknesses in the rule set. Its like KD's infamous swing through, or DWade lunging side ways into people to draw contact. Its not their fault they use it to their advantage; thats their job as professional players. Its not the refs' job to ignore violations either. The league has to make an effort to improve the rules. This season, they actually made them even worse.

A grown ass man who constantly talks about greatness and how he is an icon and whatnot crying like a little baby and flopping all over, while he himself routinely runs over people without ever being called for HALF the fouls he commits is an embarrassment to the game on the other hand. I'm not exactly a Kobe fanboy but that is weak stuff he never needed.

I never said the tactics harden uses aren't a skill. However, it's a skill the league needs to advise refs to abolish. His tactics are 3 fold: create contact by lowering his shoulder, snap his head back and flail his arms. He also has long strides and knows the angles to hit to be most effective when doing this. When you aren't actually trying to score and just foul baiting, that's embarrassing.

The league *can* do something about this. They already did after the season (i believe 2 years ago) where harden and many others were foul baiting from behind the 3PT line at an insane rate. It doesn't happen nearly as much anymore.

I also never said lebron doesn't flop. His flops just don't come nearly as often on his drives. He actually tries to finish at the rim considering he's one of the best of all time in that regard.

Lebron picks up way more contact and gets less calls than Harden.. Its is recognized by pretty much everyone including LBJ hater Skip Bayless that LBJ should get a ton more foul calls. Harden is getting calls where there is no contact and also he is getting calls where he creates all the contact.. does LBJ flop yep does harden flop yep does every NBA star flop yep.. Do I like it nope.. But LBJ does the same as any other star player he gets less calls.. MJ also got star treatment go look at the dream team who teased MJ as in do not blow on MJ you will get a foul..

I think LeBron could get a bit more calls but at the same time i'd say without exaggeration 30-50% of his drives include charging into people and he hardly ever gets called for it; just like his patented "3 steps before the first dribble" - and no, not everyone does that nor does everyone get away with it. All in all Bron gets a lot more friendly calls/non-calls than any other player in this league, incuding some of his finals-runs. If oyu didnt start watching three years ago you should know that.