Sports Illustrated: Blake Griffin's game is revolutionary.

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Re: Sports Illustrated: Blake Griffin's game is revolutionary. 

Post#21 » by OkcSinceSGA » Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:32 pm

MotownMadness wrote:Yeah he’s been really good. The fact that he creates a majority of his own baskets inside and out along with running the offense so much has been fun to watch.

He’s very skilled with a high IQ and a competitive motor. Even after being paid he’s always going at 100% out there.
Other than injury concerns this is why I'll never understand the overpaid talk BS. The guy has a better work ethic than anyone in the NBA arguably and has since day one. As a rookie many NBA legends compared it to Kobe's. As long as he is healthy he has always been a guy who is going to give you everything. Unfortunately I think the LA lifestyle started getting to his career and there is nothing better than getting out of LA for him.

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Re: Sports Illustrated: Blake Griffin's game is revolutionary. 

Post#22 » by Johnny Bball » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:40 pm

macNcheese3 wrote:
Peja Stojakovic wrote:casey is a good ass coach who gets the most out of his talent


Wait until the playoffs


If he gets the most out of his players and gets them to play to their best possible record, and they have no higher gear because they are playing in it...who's fault is it for over-rating them in the playoff? Casey's? Griffin's? Or fans that don't know that?
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Re: Sports Illustrated: Blake Griffin's game is revolutionary. 

Post#23 » by Mister Ze » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:46 pm

Seems like if the Pistons had a better bench they’d be a top 4 seed, their starters have consistently played extremely well
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Re: Sports Illustrated: Blake Griffin's game is revolutionary. 

Post#24 » by ItsThatEasy » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:18 am

levon wrote:Is he Ben Simmons' ceiling?


Absolutely.

Simmons will have to embrace being more of a scorer for that to fully be maximized though. Blake is just as comfortable scoring or passing and doesn't hunt for either stat. Simmons might enjoy passing a bit too much, if that's even possible.
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Re: Sports Illustrated: Blake Griffin's game is revolutionary. 

Post#25 » by Sulico » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:42 am

I don't know, it just feels like he's having another forgettable season. Heavy dribbling with lots of 1,5 second release jumpshots not gonna win you a lot of games. It can win some, but not nearly enough for me or many not Detroit fans to start caring.
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Re: Sports Illustrated: Blake Griffin's game is revolutionary. 

Post#26 » by jlokine » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:47 am

to me, it's never been his offense that makes me think he'll never win.. it's his defense. his hands are never up when covering man with ball.
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Post#27 » by Upperclass » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:07 am

Simmons has no where near Blake's touch around the rim or natural scoring ability
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Re: Sports Illustrated: Blake Griffin's game is revolutionary. 

Post#28 » by Dupp » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:44 am

The play making from Blake isn’t surprising he’s always had that ability. The shooting is though.
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Re: Sports Illustrated: Blake Griffin's game is revolutionary. 

Post#29 » by Dupp » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:45 am

ItsThatEasy wrote:
levon wrote:Is he Ben Simmons' ceiling?


Absolutely.

Simmons will have to embrace being more of a scorer for that to fully be maximized though. Blake is just as comfortable scoring or passing and doesn't hunt for either stat. Simmons might enjoy passing a bit too much, if that's even possible.



Eh I think Simmons has a substantially higher ceiling than Blake.
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Re: Sports Illustrated: Blake Griffin's game is revolutionary. 

Post#30 » by MrBigShot » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:13 am

He has completely transformed himself as a player. Just a shame that we don't have much help around him.
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Re: Sports Illustrated: Blake Griffin's game is revolutionary. 

Post#31 » by GYK » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:39 am

Blake has always been a great passer. The increase in scoring and scoring skill set is most impressive. It's sad he was hated just to be hated in LA.
Simmons might have a higher ceiling because he's a better ball handler at the same size. The scoring skill set is limited and his only flaw. Skill set wise with Giannis or Blakes scoring ability Simmons ball handling makes him significantly better than the others. The one fear I have for someone like Zion is ball handling. If it's anywhere like Simmons/Lebron(not vision)/guard skills his ceiling is career best in the league. Anything less he might have a prime like Blake or GA.

Anywho Blake is great.
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Re: Sports Illustrated: Blake Griffin's game is revolutionary. 

Post#32 » by Unbiased hater » Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:45 am

Kilo wrote:
alessandrux wrote:He is great, but sometimes it feels like he is punding the air out of the ball.
The Pistons game would be even better if their nominal point guard was a better off-ball player.


Kennard and Bullock both started together last night for the first time I believe this season due to respective injuries. Both can be 40% three point shooters. Blake started off really big this season before teams realized that Johnson, GRIII Brown couldn't shoot threes or space the floor to save their lives and Reggie and Ish ain't much of 3point shooters either (Ish started off the season hot from three though, which aided Blake's big start). With both our shooters hopefully back healthy and their injuries behind opposing defenses will not be able to collapse in on Blake, daring him to pass out to non-shooter wings we had on the floor with him anymore.

I do agree that Reggie Jackson is less than ideal, but Kennard can be a secondary ball handler I believe. And Pistons are on the down low working with Khyri Thomas to play the point - he'd be the 3&D point guard mold we hope. If we can have Kennard, a hot Galloway (he runs very hot or very cold) and Bullock on the floor with Griffin and Dre - those two bigs could be unguard-able, especially with teams who have adopted small ball and don't have two starter minute bigs.


Kennard is 3 point shooter who is afraid of shooting 3's, who pump fake when is open on three and when guards who left him open come to him he drives to the basket which shows his lack of confidence and that is huge problem in basketball, especially for shooter.
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Re: Sports Illustrated: Blake Griffin's game is revolutionary. 

Post#33 » by Pantsman » Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:06 am

He’s always been a revolutionary player. He’s like lebron lite. He just can’t ever stay healthy so it doesn’t matter.
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Re: Sports Illustrated: Blake Griffin's game is revolutionary. 

Post#34 » by Kilo » Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:18 pm

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Kilo wrote:
alessandrux wrote:He is great, but sometimes it feels like he is punding the air out of the ball.
The Pistons game would be even better if their nominal point guard was a better off-ball player.


Kennard and Bullock both started together last night for the first time I believe this season due to respective injuries. Both can be 40% three point shooters. Blake started off really big this season before teams realized that Johnson, GRIII Brown couldn't shoot threes or space the floor to save their lives and Reggie and Ish ain't much of 3point shooters either (Ish started off the season hot from three though, which aided Blake's big start). With both our shooters hopefully back healthy and their injuries behind opposing defenses will not be able to collapse in on Blake, daring him to pass out to non-shooter wings we had on the floor with him anymore.

I do agree that Reggie Jackson is less than ideal, but Kennard can be a secondary ball handler I believe. And Pistons are on the down low working with Khyri Thomas to play the point - he'd be the 3&D point guard mold we hope. If we can have Kennard, a hot Galloway (he runs very hot or very cold) and Bullock on the floor with Griffin and Dre - those two bigs could be unguard-able, especially with teams who have adopted small ball and don't have two starter minute bigs.


Kennard is 3 point shooter who is afraid of shooting 3's, who pump fake when is open on three and when guards who left him open come to him he drives to the basket which shows his lack of confidence and that is huge problem in basketball, especially for shooter.


All true. But I think Kennard will shoot more as he gets comfortable within the team. He was crud first year in Duke, but then broke out his second season - he defers to "authority" too much and thus defers to his veteran teammates, but once he starts seeing himself as one of the veterans I think he'll start shooting more. Both Blake and Dre are always in his ear to shoot more. We'll see. He needs to be our second option offensively.
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Re: Sports Illustrated: Blake Griffin's game is revolutionary. 

Post#35 » by E-Balla » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:35 pm

Blake is like if Shawn Kemp modeled his game after Kobe.
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Re: Sports Illustrated: Blake Griffin's game is revolutionary. 

Post#36 » by Wallace_Wallace » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:17 pm

macNcheese3 wrote:
Peja Stojakovic wrote:casey is a good ass coach who gets the most out of his talent


Wait until the playoffs


I will be happy if we win a round in the playoff :(
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Re: Sports Illustrated: Blake Griffin's game is revolutionary. 

Post#37 » by Scalabrine » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:31 pm

Kilo wrote:
alessandrux wrote:He is great, but sometimes it feels like he is punding the air out of the ball.
The Pistons game would be even better if their nominal point guard was a better off-ball player.


Kennard and Bullock both started together last night for the first time I believe this season due to respective injuries. Both can be 40% three point shooters. Blake started off really big this season before teams realized that Johnson, GRIII Brown couldn't shoot threes or space the floor to save their lives and Reggie and Ish ain't much of 3point shooters either (Ish started off the season hot from three though, which aided Blake's big start). With both our shooters hopefully back healthy and their injuries behind opposing defenses will not be able to collapse in on Blake, daring him to pass out to non-shooter wings we had on the floor with him anymore.

I do agree that Reggie Jackson is less than ideal, but Kennard can be a secondary ball handler I believe. And Pistons are on the down low working with Khyri Thomas to play the point - he'd be the 3&D point guard mold we hope. If we can have Kennard, a hot Galloway (he runs very hot or very cold) and Bullock on the floor with Griffin and Dre - those two bigs could be unguard-able, especially with teams who have adopted small ball and don't have two starter minute bigs.


Yeah I was gonna say Galloway is a great fit next to Blake, at least if he's anything like the Knicks version. He was a pesky defensive player, didn't make many mistakes offensively, played with great energy and within himself, hit open shots, and was actually really clutch. Similar to Patrick Beverly, not an All-Star but a really nice role player that fits next to more ball dominant players nicely.
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Re: Sports Illustrated: Blake Griffin's game is revolutionary. 

Post#38 » by levon » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:58 pm

Dupp wrote:Eh I think Simmons has a substantially higher ceiling than Blake.

Substantially? I'm not so sure. The shooting splits at age 22 are pretty comparable, except that Blake attempted way more from 16ft to 3. That's obviously not a great tactic in today's game, but extending a developing player's range is still important and it's discussed ad nauseum that Simmons refuses to do it.

Of course Simmons has demonstrated better playmaking and the ability to play at a faster pace, and better defense. But I think if we took away their career arcs and took a snapshot of Griffin right now, it's not an outlier in the distribution of all of Simmons' possible ceilings.

But I haven't watched either player that much which is why I asked.
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Re: Sports Illustrated: Blake Griffin's game is revolutionary. 

Post#39 » by macNcheese3 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:14 pm

Wallace_Wallace wrote:
macNcheese3 wrote:
Peja Stojakovic wrote:casey is a good ass coach who gets the most out of his talent


Wait until the playoffs


I will be happy if we win a round in the playoff :(


Good luck to you! At least you won’t be first seed being embarrassed by the eight seed. Casey is good at that!
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Re: Sports Illustrated: Blake Griffin's game is revolutionary. 

Post#40 » by macNcheese3 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:16 pm

will wrote:
macNcheese3 wrote:
Peja Stojakovic wrote:casey is a good ass coach who gets the most out of his talent


Wait until the playoffs


:lol: :lol: :lol:


I’m sure Pistons fans will adore his timely rotations and adjustments. That’s what happens when you pound the rock a little too hard.

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