Official UCF Sports Thread - Basketball: NIT Bid? Football: Spring Practice Underway

[nymets1]

I heard that Danny White mentioned on a radio show that he is not ruling out become (Independent) like how Notre Dame. That's not saying it happens, its just saying that its not being ruled out.

[UCFJayBird]

I heard that Danny White mentioned on a radio show that he is not ruling out become (Independent) like how Notre Dame. That's not saying it happens, its just saying that its not being ruled out.

Where did you read that? Only thing I've seen is he was asked if UCF played a schedule like BYU's (Independent) would they be able to make the playoff, and White said it's possible, being that Notre Dame just showed an Independent could make the playoff. but he caveated that with ND having the #1 football brand in America and saying a lot of this comes down to brands.

He then also went on to talk about how we're proud to be in the AAC and blah blah blah.

I think that was the only interview he had in the last few days on a radio show but let me know if you have the source. It'd be interesting to read/hear those comments.

[UCF]

I listened to that interview and didn’t get that impression at all. Host of the show mentioned BYU and their schedule probably wouldn’t have got it done either.

DW was fairly obvious that he expects that next time it will be something else they will use as an excuse to keep G5 out. This year was SOS.

[tiderulz]

I heard that Danny White mentioned on a radio show that he is not ruling out become (Independent) like how Notre Dame. That's not saying it happens, its just saying that its not being ruled out.

Where did you read that? Only thing I've seen is he was asked if UCF played a schedule like BYU's (Independent) would they be able to make the playoff, and White said it's possible, being that Notre Dame just showed an Independent could make the playoff. but he caveated that with ND having the #1 football brand in America and saying a lot of this comes down to brands.

He then also went on to talk about how we're proud to be in the AAC and blah blah blah.

I think that was the only interview he had in the last few days on a radio show but let me know if you have the source. It'd be interesting to read/hear those comments.

I dont think being an Independent would help UCF get into the playoffs, but i also dont think it would hurt them either. What it would hurt would be scheduling, would make Danny's job a lot harder.

[UCF]

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Huge honor.

[Viper1500]

Opinions on accepting or declining a 2 and 1 vs UF?

[Knightro]

Opinions on accepting or declining a 2 and 1 vs UF?

Couple things...

1. That "offer" has never been formally proposed or formally rejected by either side. There's been a lot of media posturing.

2. What almost every outlet is incorrectly reporting is that the 1 game in Orlando would NOT be played at Spectrum Stadium. It would be played at Camping World Stadium where UCF would not be in control of the revenue of the game.

So really the "offer", which has not been formally made by UF, is actually 2 road games and 1 neutral site game.

Definitely not happening from UCF's end.

[MagicFan101]

Opinions on accepting or declining a 2 and 1 vs UF?

No opinions involved.

Accept = Correct
Decline = Stupid

Just hold serve and be competitive in at lease one road game and this is a massive in state statement across multiple years. Unlike a one game trip to Oklahoma, this is just a couple hours down the road. Fans and recruits will travel better.


Edit: yes, this is all just hypothetical as we only have talking heads in feeding the cameras at this point.

[EAS Law]

This is nothing more than chatting with the cameras at this point as UF and UCF have yet to actually discuss anything.

Still ... given the reply by White I don’t understand how you people continuously make excuses for this clown.

This is a business. When has business ever been fair? It’s not about what you deserve but what you can negotiate and right now UCF can’t negotiate their way to a 50/50 agreement with the top tier opponents they need. Take the good but not perfect offers you can get and build up from there.

I understand where you’re going with this, but let me assure you, you don’t go out of your way to bend over in business on the off chance that it provides you some collateral, Non-guaranteed benefit.

UCF loses millions, risks losing the game which harms even the collateral benefit of recruits and being taken seriously, and looks like the punk program in the process. That’s not bad business, it’s awful business that is too risk-acceptant. It’s like asking Apple to offer their products well below the cost of any android device on the hope that it fosters good will among the consuming public and therefore leads to volume sales.

[MagicFan101]

This is nothing more than chatting with the cameras at this point as UF and UCF have yet to actually discuss anything.

Still ... given the reply by White I don’t understand how you people continuously make excuses for this clown.

This is a business. When has business ever been fair? It’s not about what you deserve but what you can negotiate and right now UCF can’t negotiate their way to a 50/50 agreement with the top tier opponents they need. Take the good but not perfect offers you can get and build up from there.

I understand where you’re going with this, but let me assure you, you don’t go out of your way to bend over in business on the off chance that it provides you some collateral, Non-guaranteed benefit.

UCF loses millions, risks losing the game which harms even the collateral benefit of recruits and being taken seriously, and looks like the punk program in the process. That’s not bad business, it’s awful business that is too risk-acceptant. It’s like asking Apple to offer their products well below the cost of any android device on the hope that it fosters good will among the consuming public and therefore leads to volume sales.

That is fine. If money is the only factor then go with that and stop embarrassing the program with rediculous false claims of accomplishments.

He has an entire athletic department to care about. There is nothing wrong with focusing on money. Just drop the act if that is the case.

[Knightro]

I remember there were some questions about UCF taking advantage of this recent run in recruiting.

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No. 1 recruiting class in the G5 so far. We'll see where they end up, but that would be the 2nd time they've done that in the last 3 years.

[nymets1]

Opinions on accepting or declining a 2 and 1 vs UF?

I don't think I want my favorite team playing my 2nd favorite team. I rather avoid the matchup as I don't think I can root for either team if they matchup. I rather play FSU or Miami, We already play USF cause they in our conference.

[UCF]

Number one in G5 is a good start, now to finish strong. We need a QB or 2 and I’ll be happy.

[EAS Law]

This is nothing more than chatting with the cameras at this point as UF and UCF have yet to actually discuss anything.

Still ... given the reply by White I don’t understand how you people continuously make excuses for this clown.

This is a business. When has business ever been fair? It’s not about what you deserve but what you can negotiate and right now UCF can’t negotiate their way to a 50/50 agreement with the top tier opponents they need. Take the good but not perfect offers you can get and build up from there.

I understand where you’re going with this, but let me assure you, you don’t go out of your way to bend over in business on the off chance that it provides you some collateral, Non-guaranteed benefit.

UCF loses millions, risks losing the game which harms even the collateral benefit of recruits and being taken seriously, and looks like the punk program in the process. That’s not bad business, it’s awful business that is too risk-acceptant. It’s like asking Apple to offer their products well below the cost of any android device on the hope that it fosters good will among the consuming public and therefore leads to volume sales.

That is fine. If money is the only factor then go with that and stop embarrassing the program with rediculous false claims of accomplishments.

He has an entire athletic department to care about. There is nothing wrong with focusing on money. Just drop the act if that is the case.

I think you can do both. One is just a longer game. Basically, it appears to me that the strategy is to remain in the AAC and continue to be dominant while making all of this noise to be taken seriously. Clearly enough people that matter seem to care, so it’s working. You’ll always have the other argument, but I think UCF is playing big fish right now while getting together better recruits to make the big play and schedule a “serious” schedule.

The last part is my speculation, but I think it makes sense rather than to rush out and lose games against teams in better conferences and then sort of fading into obscurity because you weren’t ready.

[tiderulz]

Opinions on accepting or declining a 2 and 1 vs UF?

Couple things...

1. That "offer" has never been formally proposed or formally rejected by either side. There's been a lot of media posturing.

2. What almost every outlet is incorrectly reporting is that the 1 game in Orlando would NOT be played at Spectrum Stadium. It would be played at Camping World Stadium where UCF would not be in control of the revenue of the game.

So really the "offer", which has not been formally made by UF, is actually 2 road games and 1 neutral site game.

Definitely not happening from UCF's end.

it may not have formally been offered, but UF went public with it. They would look very bad if they reneged now

[Knightro]

it may not have formally been offered, but UF went public with it. They would look very bad if they reneged now

No real downside for UF to leak an "offer" that they knew in advance wouldn't be accepted if they formally offered.

A UF-UCF series would look something like this...

2023: UCF at Florida
2024: UCF at Florida
2026: Florida at UCF (Game at Camping World Stadium, not Spectrum Stadium)

It's just not happening.

A one-off game at Camping World Stadium is something I guarantee you UCF would do.

Hell, I actually think UCF would even consider the 2-for-1 if the Orlando game was actually at Spectrum and was played in the next 2-3 years rather than 8 years out.

[UCFJayBird]

Opinions on accepting or declining a 2 and 1 vs UF?

Couple things...

1. That "offer" has never been formally proposed or formally rejected by either side. There's been a lot of media posturing.

2. What almost every outlet is incorrectly reporting is that the 1 game in Orlando would NOT be played at Spectrum Stadium. It would be played at Camping World Stadium where UCF would not be in control of the revenue of the game.

So really the "offer", which has not been formally made by UF, is actually 2 road games and 1 neutral site game.

Definitely not happening from UCF's end.

it may not have formally been offered, but UF went public with it. They would look very bad if they reneged now

Right, but it's still not a true 2-for-1. It's a 2.5-0.5. UCF would be crazy to accept.

I mean I get it, Florida has to look out for Florida, and UCF has to look out for UCF. Their needs are completely different and I don't begrudge UF for not wanting to play a 1-and-1. But I also think it's nonsense for UF to duck UCF in the bowl game (which they absolutely did), and then go "well we're offering them a 2 for 1" when they're really not.

UF hasn't played a road game against a G5 since like 1990, almost 30 years. They finally have one on the schedule vs USF, and have even moved it up in the schedule after the Peach Bowl/UCF drama. Are we expected to believe they would schedule a true road game at UCF? Seems unlikely, even if UCF were willing to take a 2-for-1, which again is not what has been offered.

White has proposed a perfectly reasonable scenario, a single neutral site game.

[tiderulz]

Couple things...

1. That "offer" has never been formally proposed or formally rejected by either side. There's been a lot of media posturing.

2. What almost every outlet is incorrectly reporting is that the 1 game in Orlando would NOT be played at Spectrum Stadium. It would be played at Camping World Stadium where UCF would not be in control of the revenue of the game.

So really the "offer", which has not been formally made by UF, is actually 2 road games and 1 neutral site game.

Definitely not happening from UCF's end.

it may not have formally been offered, but UF went public with it. They would look very bad if they reneged now

Right, but it's still not a true 2-for-1. It's a 2.5-0.5. UCF would be crazy to accept.

I mean I get it, Florida has to look out for Florida, and UCF has to look out for UCF. Their needs are completely different and I don't begrudge UF for not wanting to play a 1-and-1. But I also think it's nonsense for UF to duck UCF in the bowl game (which they absolutely did), and then go "well we're offering them a 2 for 1" when they're really not.

UF hasn't played a road game against a G5 since like 1990, almost 30 years. They finally have one on the schedule vs USF, and have even moved it up in the schedule after the Peach Bowl/UCF drama. Are we expected to believe they would schedule a true road game at UCF? Seems unlikely, even if UCF were willing to take a 2-for-1, which again is not what has been offered.

White has proposed a perfectly reasonable scenario, a single neutral site game.

oh, i get it. if it isnt a true 2-1, no way would i agree if i was UCF.

[nymets1]

We got Jordan Hayes transferring from Duke. I think that's the only addition today, We have to wait now til around 9am for the next guy to announce.

[UCF]

Good class so far... missed out on a couple but nothing shocking. Just need Dillon to sign and I’ll feel a lot better about this recruiting class. I’m most excited about Cutts. He’s going to light it up on defense.