2018-2019 OKC Thunder Regular Season Pt 1: A Renewed Hope

[bondom34]

but.. he's turning it over more relative to his usage. that's tov%. how can you say he's been a smarter passer if he's turning it over more per opportunity?

AST:TO? is this 2004?

we're not going to agree on this. even watching the games we are not seeing the same thing. are you even watching the games? it doesn't seem like you are based on the game threads.

eah, I am when possible. And seems Taylor sees what I do. And by the threads seems nobody sees a lot of what you do with him.

Basically he's turning it over more to you because he's shooting less. When his actual TOs are down, and assists the same.

yes, he's turning it over relative to the possessions he is using which imo is a reflection of his condition as a play maker / ball handler / etc.

who is taylor? why should i care what taylor thinks?

i've seen a lot of people frustrated with westbrook's passing and ball handling this season in these threads and elsewhere.

Glad you didn't even read the tweet that started the conversation.

And people ahve actually started calling you in those threads, to which you haven't replied, because your constant negativity has been pretty transparent.

And given that every time I listen or see something its been about better vision and passing, from Taylor to Duncan/Leroux, to Vecenie, gonna say I'd trust them and myself more than you.

[slick_watts]

Glad you didn't even read the tweet that started the conversation.

oh taylor is elgee35? i'm not on first or last name basis with these guys. of course i read the tweet lol. how else could i respond to it?

And people ahve actually started calling you in those threads, to which you haven't replied, because your constant negativity has been pretty transparent.

lets have a poll on whether or not russell westbrook's ball handling and play making appears to be par for the course so far this season. i'd actually be interested in those results. i'm sure there are people in the game threads arguing with me over other things but i haven't seen anyone thrilled with westbrook's ball handling this year.

And given that every time I listen or see something its been about better vision and passing, from Taylor to Duncan/Leroux, to Vecenie, gonna say I'd trust them and myself more than you.

i don't know who any of these people are.

[bondom34]

Glad you didn't even read the tweet that started the conversation.

oh taylor is elgee35? i'm not on first or last name basis with these guys. of course i read the tweet lol. how else could i respond to it?

And people ahve actually started calling you in those threads, to which you haven't replied, because your constant negativity has been pretty transparent.

lets have a poll on whether or not russell westbrook's ball handling and play making appears to be par for the course so far this season. i'd actually be interested in those results. i'm sure there are people in the game threads arguing with me over other things but i haven't seen anyone thrilled with westbrook's ball handling this year.

And given that every time I listen or see something its been about better vision and passing, from Taylor to Duncan/Leroux, to Vecenie, gonna say I'd trust them and myself more than you.

i don't know who any of these people are.

For someone who rails on the media as much as you, you sure don't seem to know who anyone is.

And sure, have a poll. Can we also have one asking if you're a reliable source of opinion on anything at this point related to Westbrook or Donovan or if you just post for reactions. Because I'd guess the latter. Luckily I've managed to not be bothered and laugh at this point.

[slick_watts]

And sure, have a poll. Can we also have one asking if you're a reliable source of opinion on anything at this point related to Westbrook or Donovan or if you just post for reactions. Because I'd guess the latter. Luckily I've managed to not be bothered and laugh at this point.

making my friends laugh is one of my favorite things to do.

[bondom34]

And sure, have a poll. Can we also have one asking if you're a reliable source of opinion on anything at this point related to Westbrook or Donovan or if you just post for reactions. Because I'd guess the latter. Luckily I've managed to not be bothered and laugh at this point.

making my friends laugh is one of my favorite things to do.

I wouldn't call people here that.

[slick_watts]

And sure, have a poll. Can we also have one asking if you're a reliable source of opinion on anything at this point related to Westbrook or Donovan or if you just post for reactions. Because I'd guess the latter. Luckily I've managed to not be bothered and laugh at this point.

making my friends laugh is one of my favorite things to do.

I wouldn't call people here that.

i consider you all my friends. especially you, dom. we shared an mpn together. we all have our roles to play on the stage of life.

[bondom34]

making my friends laugh is one of my favorite things to do.

I wouldn't call people here that.

i consider you all my friends. especially you, dom. we shared an mpn together. we all have our roles to play on the stage of life.

TBH wouldn't mind doing mpn sometime. Except we should get David in on it...

[Pillendreher]

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Didn't know this about Fisher.

[Pillendreher]

You can now take a closer look at the 538 predictions:

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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2019-nba-predictions/thunder/

Current rotation: +2.9 offensively | +3.1 defensively | 56 win team
Full strength rotation Regular Season: +2.8 offensively | +4.1 defensively | 58 win team
Full strength rotation Playoffs: +3.7 offensively | +4.3 defensively | 61 win team

[bondom34]

So currently they sit at 2nd per game in deflections (I don't love the hustle stats but seems they're being active). Westbrook 2nd in the NBA and PG 5th per game.

Leading in loose balls recovered per game with PG 1st and Westbrook 3rd.

Adams is 3rd in box outs and 1st by a large margin in offensive box outs.

[RunOKC]

The general board is almost unbearable again. So many trolls and people with the most absurd takes (not that we don't have any of these issues on this board either)

I'm warming up to Chris Fisher as an announcer, and from watching that video the guy seems like a classy guy. Good hire even though I miss BD

[bondom34]

The general board is almost unbearable again. So many trolls and people with the most absurd takes (not that we don't have any of these issues on this board either)

I'm warming up to Chris Fisher as an announcer, and from watching that video the guy seems like a classy guy. Good hire even though I miss BD

Houston fans peeking out from under their rock.

[RunOKC]

The general board is almost unbearable again. So many trolls and people with the most absurd takes (not that we don't have any of these issues on this board either)

I'm warming up to Chris Fisher as an announcer, and from watching that video the guy seems like a classy guy. Good hire even though I miss BD

Houston fans peeking out from under their rock.

Warriors and Lakers fans out in force as well spewing non-sense (although I think most the Warriors posters are pretty decent, just a lot of bandwagons probably)

Don't get me started on some of the Raptor takes

[bondom34]

The general board is almost unbearable again. So many trolls and people with the most absurd takes (not that we don't have any of these issues on this board either)

I'm warming up to Chris Fisher as an announcer, and from watching that video the guy seems like a classy guy. Good hire even though I miss BD

Houston fans peeking out from under their rock.

Warriors and Lakers fans out in force as well spewing non-sense (although I think most the Warriors posters are pretty decent, just a lot of bandwagons probably)

Don't get me started on some of the Raptor takes

I kinda like the Raps. Though there's a lot of east teams I like. Honestly really the only teams I hate hate are Houston and even a lesser extent GSW (their fans are somehow better overall than Houston's IMO). Though always will hate the Warriors for cupcake. Oh, and yeah you're right on the Lakers lol.

[RunOKC]

Houston fans peeking out from under their rock.

Warriors and Lakers fans out in force as well spewing non-sense (although I think most the Warriors posters are pretty decent, just a lot of bandwagons probably)

Don't get me started on some of the Raptor takes

I kinda like the Raps. Though there's a lot of east teams I like. Honestly really the only teams I hate hate are Houston and even a lesser extent GSW (their fans are somehow better overall than Houston's IMO). Though always will hate the Warriors for cupcake. Oh, and yeah you're right on the Lakers lol.

I don't dislike any team specifically, just certain players/play styles . I really like the Raptors as a team as well and they definitely have good/passionate fans, but just some of the craziest stuff posted on behalf of some of their fans is ruining the GB. I guess it comes with being the biggest fan bases on here, but I still think the ratio is higher than most teams.

[bondom34]

Just checked because I was curious about Schroder's habits and if we're being too critical about his taking over the offense (I don't think we are).

With Schroder and Westbrook on court, they're a +13.5. Adding PG to that duo is a +16.8.

Westbrook's USG is 28.6%, PG 23.9, Adams 15.3, and Schroder 17.6.

Without Westbrook it's a +4.2. Adding PG is a +9.5.

PG's usage jumps to 29.9% but his TS goes from 65.3% to 56.1%.

Schroder's USG is 29.5% and TS goes from 52.7 to 51.1. His assist:TO ratio also drops.

Adams's USG goes up to 18% and TS goes up a bit from 54.3 to 60.6.

[bondom34]

Warriors and Lakers fans out in force as well spewing non-sense (although I think most the Warriors posters are pretty decent, just a lot of bandwagons probably)

Don't get me started on some of the Raptor takes

I kinda like the Raps. Though there's a lot of east teams I like. Honestly really the only teams I hate hate are Houston and even a lesser extent GSW (their fans are somehow better overall than Houston's IMO). Though always will hate the Warriors for cupcake. Oh, and yeah you're right on the Lakers lol.

I don't dislike any team specifically, just certain players/play styles . I really like the Raptors as a team as well and they definitely have good/passionate fans, but just some of the craziest stuff posted on behalf of some of their fans is ruining the GB. I guess it comes with being the biggest fan bases on here, but I still think the ratio is higher than most teams.

Oh if you lurk their board after a loss. I don't envy their mods .

[slick_watts]

Just checked because I was curious about Schroder's habits and if we're being too critical about his taking over the offense (I don't think we are).

With Schroder and Westbrook on court, they're a +13.5. Adding PG to that duo is a +16.8.

Westbrook's USG is 28.6%, PG 23.9, Adams 15.3, and Schroder 17.6.

Without Westbrook it's a +4.2. Adding PG is a +9.5.

PG's usage jumps to 29.9% but his TS goes from 65.3% to 56.1%.

Schroder's USG is 29.5% and TS goes from 52.7 to 51.1. His assist:TO ratio also drops.

Adams's USG goes up to 18% and TS goes up a bit from 54.3 to 60.6.

schroder's usage is approaching 35% in lineups without russ in games russ has played in.

[bondom34]

Just checked because I was curious about Schroder's habits and if we're being too critical about his taking over the offense (I don't think we are).

With Schroder and Westbrook on court, they're a +13.5. Adding PG to that duo is a +16.8.

Westbrook's USG is 28.6%, PG 23.9, Adams 15.3, and Schroder 17.6.

Without Westbrook it's a +4.2. Adding PG is a +9.5.

PG's usage jumps to 29.9% but his TS goes from 65.3% to 56.1%.

Schroder's USG is 29.5% and TS goes from 52.7 to 51.1. His assist:TO ratio also drops.

Adams's USG goes up to 18% and TS goes up a bit from 54.3 to 60.6.

schroder's usage is approaching 35% in lineups without russ in games russ has played in.

[bondom34]

Seriously though, we should organize an MPN episode with David. I'd feel smarter. Heck if Pille's hours weren't so far off him too.