Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc

fendilim · Post #521 » by **fendilim** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:48 pm

Rivers and Simmons in one lineup would be amazing. /s

Furinkazan · Post #522 » by **Furinkazan** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:49 pm

Skin wrote:I hate Lin and Rivers.

Hofully its just a bs rumor.
I dont want either of them.
Collecting backup pgs now?

Furinkazan · Post #523 » by **Furinkazan** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:50 pm

fendilim wrote:Rivers and Simmons in one lineup would be amazing. /s

yeah but
next year and in China

VFX · Post #524 » by **VFX** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:52 pm

Knightro wrote:I will say this in regards to Vucevic and Ross both.

If the don't intend to resign them, they should trade them both and just deal with the fallout.

I'm hard pressed to believe that they would play out the season with both of them and then let them both walk, but we'll see.

I can’t and won’t stomach watching another 2-3 years of running offense through Vucevic. WeHam are in a tough situation now because his value will never be higher, Orlando still isn’t a good team, and still relies on him to win.

fendilim · Post #525 » by **fendilim** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:52 pm

Furinkazan wrote:
Skin wrote:I hate Lin and Rivers.

Hofully its just a bs rumor.
I dont want either of them.
Collecting backup pgs now?

Well, if we’re competing, both of them are worth the look. Cant be worse than Grant

Furinkazan · Post #526 » by **Furinkazan** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:56 pm

fendilim wrote:
Furinkazan wrote:
Skin wrote:I hate Lin and Rivers.

Hofully its just a bs rumor.
I dont want either of them.
Collecting backup pgs now?

Well, if we’re competing, both of them are worth the look. Cant be worse than Grant

Same as Grant was supposed to be better than DJ?
He coudnt be worse.I did read this here on this board after the trade

pepe1991 · Post #527 » by **pepe1991** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:05 pm

Furinkazan wrote:
fendilim wrote:
Furinkazan wrote:
Hofully its just a bs rumor.
I dont want either of them.
Collecting backup pgs now?

Well, if we’re competing, both of them are worth the look. Cant be worse than Grant

Same as Grant was supposed to be better than DJ?
He coudnt be worse.I did read this here on this board after the trade

Grant got lot of hype here... Tbh i didn't even know who he is when Magic traded for him.
But knowing guy was Cameroon Payne's backup was enough.

woosah · Post #528 » by **woosah** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:17 pm

I don't remember Grant getting hyped. I remember him getting ripped. (I cried real tears laughing at Dalic ripping him, because Dalic is usually so mild in his critcisms lol) People appealed for the wait and see. The FO lovers pleaded for patience but idk about saying he was good. Anyway nola needs some guard help so they may save us from Rivers. I don't like what i'm reading about his attitude so maybe we pass if it really is that bad for a young team.

pepe1991 · Post #529 » by **pepe1991** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:19 pm

MagicMatic wrote:
Knightro wrote:I will say this in regards to Vucevic and Ross both.

If the don't intend to resign them, they should trade them both and just deal with the fallout.

I'm hard pressed to believe that they would play out the season with both of them and then let them both walk, but we'll see.

I can’t and won’t stomach watching another 2-3 years of running offense through Vucevic. WeHam are in a tough situation now because his value will never be higher, Orlando still isn’t a good team, and still relies on him to win.

Do you think that WeHam would go in full rebuild of Isaac and Bamba looked better? I think so.
I think part of reason why they are now cought in no man's land is because both picks are meh at best. (+ 3 second round scrubs) I don't see scenario where any of them ever becomes best player on good team or second best player on great team. They look like complimentary role players that still need somebody else to do all the heavy lifting on offense, and Gordon ( Vuc or Ross ) are not that ,but right now are closest thing to reliable offense.

If Isaac looks like Brandon Ingram did in second year ( or better ) ,16-17 ppg player on solid efficiency, that would make rest of roster movable. But he is 8 ppg player on poor shooting, Bamba is just body for now and tanking isn't that valuable any more as strategy.

Regardless of Vučević situation ,before they sign him or not, only way Magic can get better is via FA.

Post #530 » by **Def Swami** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:57 pm

Read on Twitter

Post #531 » by **Knightro** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:03 pm

Read on Twitter

Congrats to Vuc!

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #532 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:48 pm

Knightro wrote:

Read on Twitter

Congrats to Vuc!

What a year for Vucci Mane!

All-star candidate
First time father
Potential playoff berth
Big pay day coming up

Couldn't be happier for him!

OrlandoNed · Post #533 » by **OrlandoNed** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:50 pm

His wife's name is Nicoleta? Didn't know there was a female version of the name Nicola. That's kind of funny.

OrlandO · Post #534 » by **OrlandO** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:50 pm

Def Swami wrote::clap:

Read on Twitter

Congrats to Vuc... but make sure you get your ass some sleep.

basketballRob · Post #535 » by **basketballRob** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:07 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
Knightro wrote:I will say this in regards to Vucevic and Ross both.

If the don't intend to resign them, they should trade them both and just deal with the fallout.

I'm hard pressed to believe that they would play out the season with both of them and then let them both walk, but we'll see.

I can’t and won’t stomach watching another 2-3 years of running offense through Vucevic. WeHam are in a tough situation now because his value will never be higher, Orlando still isn’t a good team, and still relies on him to win.

Do you think that WeHam would go in full rebuild of Isaac and Bamba looked better? I think so.
I think part of reason why they are now cought in no man's land is because both picks are meh at best. (+ 3 second round scrubs) I don't see scenario where any of them ever becomes best player on good team or second best player on great team. They look like complimentary role players that still need somebody else to do all the heavy lifting on offense, and Gordon ( Vuc or Ross ) are not that ,but right now are closest thing to reliable offense.

If Isaac looks like Brandon Ingram did in second year ( or better ) ,16-17 ppg player on solid efficiency, that would make rest of roster movable. But he is 8 ppg player on poor shooting, Bamba is just body for now and tanking isn't that valuable any more as strategy.

Regardless of Vučević situation ,before they sign him or not, only way Magic can get better is via FA.

Bamba looks like a potential 20 point scorer and probably future all-star.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #536 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:14 pm

basketballRob wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
I can’t and won’t stomach watching another 2-3 years of running offense through Vucevic. WeHam are in a tough situation now because his value will never be higher, Orlando still isn’t a good team, and still relies on him to win.

Do you think that WeHam would go in full rebuild of Isaac and Bamba looked better? I think so.
I think part of reason why they are now cought in no man's land is because both picks are meh at best. (+ 3 second round scrubs) I don't see scenario where any of them ever becomes best player on good team or second best player on great team. They look like complimentary role players that still need somebody else to do all the heavy lifting on offense, and Gordon ( Vuc or Ross ) are not that ,but right now are closest thing to reliable offense.

If Isaac looks like Brandon Ingram did in second year ( or better ) ,16-17 ppg player on solid efficiency, that would make rest of roster movable. But he is 8 ppg player on poor shooting, Bamba is just body for now and tanking isn't that valuable any more as strategy.

Regardless of Vučević situation ,before they sign him or not, only way Magic can get better is via FA.

Bamba looks like a potential 20 point scorer and probably future all-star.

Are you sure you aren't playing 2K on Rookie mode?

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
Knightro wrote:

Read on Twitter

Congrats to Vuc!

What a year for Vucci Mane!

All-star candidate
First time father
Potential playoff berth
Big pay day coming up

Couldn't be happier for him!

Congrats to Vooch

pepe1991 · Post #537 » by **pepe1991** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:16 pm

Nikoleta and Nikola lol

MoMM · Post #538 » by **MoMM** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:18 pm

basketballRob wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
I can’t and won’t stomach watching another 2-3 years of running offense through Vucevic. WeHam are in a tough situation now because his value will never be higher, Orlando still isn’t a good team, and still relies on him to win.

Do you think that WeHam would go in full rebuild of Isaac and Bamba looked better? I think so.
I think part of reason why they are now cought in no man's land is because both picks are meh at best. (+ 3 second round scrubs) I don't see scenario where any of them ever becomes best player on good team or second best player on great team. They look like complimentary role players that still need somebody else to do all the heavy lifting on offense, and Gordon ( Vuc or Ross ) are not that ,but right now are closest thing to reliable offense.

If Isaac looks like Brandon Ingram did in second year ( or better ) ,16-17 ppg player on solid efficiency, that would make rest of roster movable. But he is 8 ppg player on poor shooting, Bamba is just body for now and tanking isn't that valuable any more as strategy.

Regardless of Vučević situation ,before they sign him or not, only way Magic can get better is via FA.

Bamba looks like a potential 20 point scorer and probably future all-star.

Or the next...

And let's not act like Bamba was a high draft pick and it can't happen, because BB was #8 pick playing in Europe. If he was playing in the NCAA he would go higher.

PS: Yes, I know that Bamba's hands are a little better than BB's.

basketballRob · Post #539 » by **basketballRob** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:22 pm

MoMM wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Do you think that WeHam would go in full rebuild of Isaac and Bamba looked better? I think so.
I think part of reason why they are now cought in no man's land is because both picks are meh at best. (+ 3 second round scrubs) I don't see scenario where any of them ever becomes best player on good team or second best player on great team. They look like complimentary role players that still need somebody else to do all the heavy lifting on offense, and Gordon ( Vuc or Ross ) are not that ,but right now are closest thing to reliable offense.

If Isaac looks like Brandon Ingram did in second year ( or better ) ,16-17 ppg player on solid efficiency, that would make rest of roster movable. But he is 8 ppg player on poor shooting, Bamba is just body for now and tanking isn't that valuable any more as strategy.

Regardless of Vučević situation ,before they sign him or not, only way Magic can get better is via FA.

Bamba looks like a potential 20 point scorer and probably future all-star.

Or the next...

And let's not act like Bamba was a high draft pick and it can't happen, because BB was #8 pick playing in Europe. If he was playing in the NCAA he would go higher.

That's hilarious! Hopefully you are just joking?

Furinkazan · Post #540 » by **Furinkazan** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:26 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
Furinkazan wrote:
fendilim wrote:Well, if we’re competing, both of them are worth the look. Cant be worse than Grant

Same as Grant was supposed to be better than DJ?
He coudnt be worse.I did read this here on this board after the trade

Grant got lot of hype here... Tbh i didn't even know who he is when Magic traded for him.
But knowing guy was Cameroon Payne's backup was enough.

I still remember Duhon hype. :-?