Law: Blue Jays Don't Have Top Five Farm System in MLB

[Lukeem]

I have not been following baseball as much as I’d like over the past 5 years but was curious what our 5 year projection depth chart looks like (obviously a tonne can still change) I’m going to take a stab at it. Feel free to laugh if I completely air ball a players position or relevance


C
Jansen
McGuire

1b
Smoak
Tellez

2b
Gueriel
Travis
Biggio

Ss
Bichette
Gueriel
Urena
Groshans

3b
Guerrero
Drury

Of
Alford
Grichuck
Hernandez
Pompey
smith jr
Pillar
Conine
Davis

P
Sanchez
Reid foley
Stroman
Burucki
Zeuch
Pearson
Giles
Perez
Pauilino

[bluerap23]

I have not been following baseball as much as I’d like over the past 5 years but was curious what our 5 year projection depth chart looks like (obviously a tonne can still change) I’m going to take a stab at it. Feel free to laugh if I completely air ball a players position or relevance


C
Jansen
McGuire
Pentecost
Adams

1b
Tellez
Spanberger

2b
Biggio
Gueriel

Ss
Bichette
Urena
Smith
Warmoth
Martinez

3b
Guerrero
Drury
Hiraldo

Of
Alford
Young
Noda
Grichuck
Conine
Davis
McKinney

P
Sanchez
Reid foley
Stroman
Burucki
Zeuch
Pearson
Perez
Pauilino
Pardinho
Pannone

I've added some important names and took away a few that I am almost certain will not be here in 5 years.

[Lukeem]

I have not been following baseball as much as I’d like over the past 5 years but was curious what our 5 year projection depth chart looks like (obviously a tonne can still change) I’m going to take a stab at it. Feel free to laugh if I completely air ball a players position or relevance


C
Jansen
McGuire
Pentecost
Adams

1b
Tellez
Spanberger

2b
Biggio
Gueriel

Ss
Bichette
Urena
Smith
Warmoth
Martinez

3b
Guerrero
Drury
Hiraldo

Of
Alford
Young
Noda
Grichuck
Conine
Davis
McKinney

P
Sanchez
Reid foley
Stroman
Burucki
Zeuch
Pearson
Perez
Pauilino
Pardinho
Pannone

I've added some important names and took away a few that I am almost certain will not be here in 5 years.

Appreciate it, why do you think smoak, pillar and Travis will be gone by ages 36, 34 and 32 ?
None of them are stars are anything but they also are not blocking any of our top prospects and even top prospects are not locks.

They could be some decent vets to help transition you players into every day mlbers

[manjusaka]

Appreciate it, why do you think smoak, pillar and Travis will be gone by ages 36, 34 and 32 ?
None of them are stars are anything but they also are not blocking any of our top prospects and even top prospects are not locks.

They could be some decent vets to help transition you players into every day mlbers

Pillar and Travis are already below average player this season, and have every signs to continue the decline. Smoak is already 30 years old, and probably peaked last year. He is still an useful bat in the lineup, but probable more valuable in a contender's lineup than in 2019 Bluejays'.

[bluerap23]

Appreciate it, why do you think smoak, pillar and Travis will be gone by ages 36, 34 and 32 ?
None of them are stars are anything but they also are not blocking any of our top prospects and even top prospects are not locks.

They could be some decent vets to help transition you players into every day mlbers

Pillar and Travis are already below average player this season, and have every signs to continue the decline. Smoak is already 30 years old, and probably peaked last year. He is still an useful bat in the lineup, but probable more valuable in a contender's lineup than in 2019 Bluejays'.

What he said. Pillar and Travis will likely be gone within 2 years. Smoak may get one more contract after this year, but I doubt it. I expect him to get traded by the deadline next season.

[Lukeem]

Appreciate it, why do you think smoak, pillar and Travis will be gone by ages 36, 34 and 32 ?
None of them are stars are anything but they also are not blocking any of our top prospects and even top prospects are not locks.

They could be some decent vets to help transition you players into every day mlbers

Pillar and Travis are already below average player this season, and have every signs to continue the decline. Smoak is already 30 years old, and probably peaked last year. He is still an useful bat in the lineup, but probable more valuable in a contender's lineup than in 2019 Bluejays'.

What he said. Pillar and Travis will likely be gone within 2 years. Smoak may get one more contract after this year, but I doubt it. I expect him to get traded by the deadline next season.

I understand the sentiment. But all of them I’d say are slightly better than the average replacement and decent characters or better to have around. If we trade them next year then we add that player to our future projections too hence me leaving them on (probably more of a place holder. Still a decent asset though)

[Schad]

They won't be average by the time they reach those ages, though. 36 year old Smoak, 34 year old Pillar, and 32 year old Travis are likely to be below-replacement-level, if they're in the majors at all.

[Steelo Green]

Not great with the system so is that correct? Are we just top heavy but not deep?

[emptytheclip]

As more of a casual fan who doesn't follow the Jays what's the pitching prospects looking like for the Jays?

I know it's a long ways a way, but say the top guys like Bichette and Vlad are here carrying the offense and playing in the field, who do we expect to be our top starting pitchers at that time? Are they in the organization already or not?

The Jays actually have some suprise pitching depth in the farm, but mostly in the mid rotation/backend variety, which still helps considering potential saving 10 mill salary on guys like Garcia .

With Borucki, Reid-Foley, Pannone, and Paulino either in the majors next season, or on the shuttle between Toronto to Buffalo, the top starters developing at the farm include: Zeuch, Romano, Waguespack, Perez, Pearson, Murphy, Buffo, Logue, Pardinho, Kloffenstein.

The guys with higher ceilings are mostly in A+ ball or lower (Pearson, Pardinho, Murphy), which probably put them a few years away from being ready.. with a likely road bump at AA that happens to a lot of pitchers. Zeuch and Romano had terrific seasons but there’s skepticism their stuff will be as effective in the majors. Hector Perez has a lot to figure out in AA but flashes promise.

[bluerap23]

The only true top end pitching prospects are Pearson and Pardinho. Both should be considered lottery tickets based on age/injury history.

[SharoneWright]

The only true top end pitching prospects are Pearson and Pardinho. Both should be considered lottery tickets based on age/injury history.

...and height

[VanWest82]

I'm a little skeptical about Pardinho given his size. At 5'10 and a buck fifty I'm not sure how he continues throwing hard without blowing an elbow. Stro obviously had some success with a similar build but those guys are few and far between as far as becoming successful major league starters. In any case, it'll be at least 2-3 years before we see him against the big boys.

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