Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc

[thelead]

I’ll always be a Magic fan first but honestly I am just done with this garbage. I love basketball and love watching new, young talent. Until we stop drafting projects, fully commit to rebuilding and giving the fans hope, I am just saying the same thing over and over again on RealGM.

This team doesn’t deserve a fan base after all the mismanagement of talent/resources over the last 7-8 years. That is a REALLY lengthy time of mistake after mistake. I don’t even look forward to watching games anymore and even though I try to stay engaged, I know that there’s very little to get excited for moving forward. I’ll say it over and over, we HAD ALL OF THESE GUYS ON A SINGLE ROSTER:
Vuc
Dedmon
Tobias
AG
Evan
Dipo
The pick that was used on Sabonis...

My god... what a waste of talent... Even if Dipo made marginal improvements, that could be a top 4 team in the East.

[PrimeThyme]

You know what pisses me off the most about this FO? Knowing that even if we had gotten/traded for a top 3 pick they (imo) would have passed on Doncic for Bamba. && thats not a slight on Bamba as I think he will be good, its more about the generational talent that Doncic is. Just to know that they would pass on a player like that just to draft a guy that fits their extremely questionable "vision" for this team irks me.

They have passed on countless guard prospects in the late first and early second rounds that have turned into legitimate role players already in favor of end of the bench long-armed wings with the same skillset that will be out of the league in 3 years. Weltman actually had the audacity to claim the "draft flattened out" when guys like Josh Hart and Kuzma would be playing huge starting minutes on this team right now and Iwundu can barely log minutes in garbage time. His last two second-round draft picks can't even log minutes in the G-league.

I just have zero confidence in them. Almost two years in and we still have no starting point guard and virtually the same roster. They have the luckiest jobs in the world, they get to sit on their hands and do nothing while getting paid millions to do it. Considering Martins is the person behind these hires though, I can't really say I'm surprised. Incompetency is what is expected from this Org.

[Furinkazan]

You know what pisses me off the most about this FO? Knowing that even if we had gotten/traded for a top 3 pick they (imo) would have passed on Doncic for Bamba. && thats not a slight on Bamba as I think he will be good, its more about the generational talent that Doncic is. Just to know that they would pass on a player like that just to draft a guy that fits their extremely questionable "vision" for this team irks me.

They have passed on countless guard prospects in the late first and early second rounds that have turned into legitimate role players already in favor of end of the bench long-armed wings with the same skillset that will be out of the league in 3 years. Weltman actually had the audacity to claim the "draft flattened out" when guys like Josh Hart and Kuzma would be playing huge starting minutes on this team right now and Iwundu can barely log minutes in garbage time. His last two second-round draft picks can't even log minutes in the G-league.

I just have zero confidence in them. Almost two years in and we still have no starting point guard and virtually the same roster. They have the luckiest jobs in the world, they get to sit on their hands and do nothing while getting paid millions to do it. Considering Martins is the person behind these hires though, I can't really say I'm surprised. Incompetency is what is expected from this Org.

I cant AND1 this enough.

[drsd]

Miami has caught Orlando. The favourable schedule needs to be exploited to stay in playoff contention.

[SOUL]

Weren't their trade rumors around draft night that we were trying to trade up for Doncic? Where are we hearing that they wouldn't have taken him?

[PrimeThyme]

Weren't their trade rumors around draft night that we were trying to trade up for Doncic? Where are we hearing that they wouldn't have taken him?

Rumors generally mean nothing around that time, && I didn’t see any credited ones about us trading up for Doncic anyways. There were rumors about us moving up but not necessarily for Doncic. I also stated in the post that it was just my opinion.

Just by going off of how many times they stated that they had Bamba way higher than 6 on their draft board and knowing their foolish infatuation for wingspan and length it’s clear to me that Bamba was probally very high on their big board. He is a tailor made prospect for what they are trying to build here.

I easily see a world where they valued Bamba over Doncic. Their draft track record says as much.

[pepe1991]

WeHam trade up for Dončić? LOL
that would require some balls and moving away from agenda. Hard pass.

[fklt]

i remember fournier saying we should definitely draft doncic, and that's about it. he would make a better GM probably anyway.

[MagicFrenchie]

i remember fournier saying we should definitely draft doncic, and that's about it. he would make a better GM probably anyway.

Not hard to say we should draft doncic.

Playing good basketball is.

[pepe1991]

i remember fournier saying we should definitely draft doncic, and that's about it. he would make a better GM probably anyway.

all nba players : Dragić,both Bogdanovic, Saric, Porzingis and many others from Europe said it.

Tbh both him and Ayton were always going to be -at worst starters for career.

[dsg2021]

I still have a ton of faith in WeHam, our Year 2 FO. I'm excited for the Magic reaching the playoffs and putting up a serious fight. I'm excited to see what the drafting wizards Hammond and Lloyd come up with, they will hit the mark on their spot in the draft. I'm excited for Weltman to find the big picture, the one that makes a title contender and constant winner. Let's go Magic, man 1 to man 15 out there on the floor. #TheTeamApproach

[Nemesis21]

Weren't their trade rumors around draft night that we were trying to trade up for Doncic? Where are we hearing that they wouldn't have taken him?

Rumors generally mean nothing around that time, && I didn’t see any credited ones about us trading up for Doncic anyways. There were rumors about us moving up but not necessarily for Doncic. I also stated in the post that it was just my opinion.

Just by going off of how many times they stated that they had Bamba way higher than 6 on their draft board and knowing their foolish infatuation for wingspan and length it’s clear to me that Bamba was probally very high on their big board. He is a tailor made prospect for what they are trying to build here.

I easily see a world where they valued Bamba over Doncic. Their draft track record says as much.

This is why NO ONE should be surprised when they select Bol Bol in June.

[Blue_and_Whte]

Weren't their trade rumors around draft night that we were trying to trade up for Doncic? Where are we hearing that they wouldn't have taken him?

Rumors generally mean nothing around that time, && I didn’t see any credited ones about us trading up for Doncic anyways. There were rumors about us moving up but not necessarily for Doncic. I also stated in the post that it was just my opinion.

Just by going off of how many times they stated that they had Bamba way higher than 6 on their draft board and knowing their foolish infatuation for wingspan and length it’s clear to me that Bamba was probally very high on their big board. He is a tailor made prospect for what they are trying to build here.

I easily see a world where they valued Bamba over Doncic. Their draft track record says as much.

This is why NO ONE should be surprised when they select Bol Bol in June.

As our "SG of the future"

No basketball skill.....no problem. -WeHam
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[pepe1991]

You know what pisses me off the most about this FO? Knowing that even if we had gotten/traded for a top 3 pick they (imo) would have passed on Doncic for Bamba. && thats not a slight on Bamba as I think he will be good, its more about the generational talent that Doncic is. Just to know that they would pass on a player like that just to draft a guy that fits their extremely questionable "vision" for this team irks me.

They have passed on countless guard prospects in the late first and early second rounds that have turned into legitimate role players already in favor of end of the bench long-armed wings with the same skillset that will be out of the league in 3 years. Weltman actually had the audacity to claim the "draft flattened out" when guys like Josh Hart and Kuzma would be playing huge starting minutes on this team right now and Iwundu can barely log minutes in garbage time. His last two second-round draft picks can't even log minutes in the G-league.

I just have zero confidence in them. Almost two years in and we still have no starting point guard and virtually the same roster. They have the luckiest jobs in the world, they get to sit on their hands and do nothing while getting paid millions to do it. Considering Martins is the person behind these hires though, I can't really say I'm surprised. Incompetency is what is expected from this Org.

i should make another acc just to and1 this one more time

[MartinsIzAfraud]

You know what pisses me off the most about this FO? Knowing that even if we had gotten/traded for a top 3 pick they (imo) would have passed on Doncic for Bamba. && thats not a slight on Bamba as I think he will be good, its more about the generational talent that Doncic is. Just to know that they would pass on a player like that just to draft a guy that fits their extremely questionable "vision" for this team irks me.

They have passed on countless guard prospects in the late first and early second rounds that have turned into legitimate role players already in favor of end of the bench long-armed wings with the same skillset that will be out of the league in 3 years. Weltman actually had the audacity to claim the "draft flattened out" when guys like Josh Hart and Kuzma would be playing huge starting minutes on this team right now and Iwundu can barely log minutes in garbage time. His last two second-round draft picks can't even log minutes in the G-league.

I just have zero confidence in them. Almost two years in and we still have no starting point guard and virtually the same roster. They have the luckiest jobs in the world, they get to sit on their hands and do nothing while getting paid millions to do it. Considering Martins is the person behind these hires though, I can't really say I'm surprised. Incompetency is what is expected from this Org.

I cant AND1 this enough.

Its just soooo BEAutiful...

[YosemiteSam]

This thread has taken a turn - I think many of you need a holiday break to relax a bit. Turn off the Magic games and maybe watch Paddington 2 on HBO or something.....

[IllMagic04]

You know what pisses me off the most about this FO? Knowing that even if we had gotten/traded for a top 3 pick they (imo) would have passed on Doncic for Bamba. && thats not a slight on Bamba as I think he will be good, its more about the generational talent that Doncic is. Just to know that they would pass on a player like that just to draft a guy that fits their extremely questionable "vision" for this team irks me.

They have passed on countless guard prospects in the late first and early second rounds that have turned into legitimate role players already in favor of end of the bench long-armed wings with the same skillset that will be out of the league in 3 years. Weltman actually had the audacity to claim the "draft flattened out" when guys like Josh Hart and Kuzma would be playing huge starting minutes on this team right now and Iwundu can barely log minutes in garbage time. His last two second-round draft picks can't even log minutes in the G-league.

I just have zero confidence in them. Almost two years in and we still have no starting point guard and virtually the same roster. They have the luckiest jobs in the world, they get to sit on their hands and do nothing while getting paid millions to do it. Considering Martins is the person behind these hires though, I can't really say I'm surprised. Incompetency is what is expected from this Org.

this is so dead on

[IllMagic04]

Anyone with any knowledge on building a basketball team knows what's needs to happen. But how can we do it? I've said this before, At the trade deadline If we are 2 games over .500 and Vuc is an all star how can we trade him? If we make the playoffs ,fight hard and lose in 5 games how can we not resign him. Especially when its pretty clear Bamba has a longgg ways to go. What are you selling your fans when you finally look like a playoff team and you pull the rug from under it. What are you selling your young players? We are kinda stuck.

[Furinkazan]

Weren't their trade rumors around draft night that we were trying to trade up for Doncic? Where are we hearing that they wouldn't have taken him?

Rumors generally mean nothing around that time, && I didn’t see any credited ones about us trading up for Doncic anyways. There were rumors about us moving up but not necessarily for Doncic. I also stated in the post that it was just my opinion.

Just by going off of how many times they stated that they had Bamba way higher than 6 on their draft board and knowing their foolish infatuation for wingspan and length it’s clear to me that Bamba was probally very high on their big board. He is a tailor made prospect for what they are trying to build here.

I easily see a world where they valued Bamba over Doncic. Their draft track record says as much.

This is why NO ONE should be surprised when they select Bol Bol in June.

just in case Vucevic leaves and Bamba doesnt pan out

[fklt]

frazier is their peak, really. drafting a player that drops out of a G league rotation in just 2 months and hates basketball, because arms. you would think iwundu would be hard to top.