Hunt For An ARIZAnable - Trade is OUBRE! - Final Poll results

[WeekapaugGroove]

So Boston having a rough go of it and Rozier just can't get it going this year I think they might be forced to make a move. It's also looking like most and maybe all of the 1st rounders owed to them might convey this year giving them 4 this draft. I wonder if they would do Rozier for the bucks pick giving them one that won't convey next summer and they can use in a future trade and then they can use one of the picks coming next summer to add a guy at the deadline.

Real question is does Phoenix even want Terry?

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I don't know about Phoenix but I definitely don't want him.

No thanks. Not even if he was fairly cheap in free agency. Melton's already better defensively and Rozier's shooting has gotten worse. Not Melton bad, but still not good enough to pay him over our young guys. We have two young PGs under contract...Rozier through next year and Okobo for 4 years.

I'm probably a little higher on Terry than most people because I like his competitiveness and he's a pretty good defender. The shooting is a problem and it's starting to look like last year's playoff shooting was a outlier.

I threw that out there because I think it's something Boston probably turned down this summer but would have to consider now. But I could see the suns not wanting to do considering there's a good amount of fa PG options this summer and they might want to get a long look at Melton these last 50 games.

Ainge has been great but this might be a situation where he over played his hand. Rozier has to be pretty pissed too, had he got dealt this summer he could have signed an extension that could have been for way more than he's looking at this summer unless his play really improves.

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I'm not sure that applies to this girl...she seems to have just had enough of Tatum's two-timing...

...sounds like, he was trying to 'play' both sides of the fence, and if either of those girls are the 'gold-digging wh0re' type, it's the baby mama...she's just along for the ride, playing it cool, until she's done her 'time', and is just waiting for one of two things to happen...

...either Tatum grows up, stops wh0ring around himself, and commits solely to her, and she reaps the benefits of an NBA player's wife, living the life of luxury, WITH her man, and baby...or...

...Tatum continues his stupid ways (thinking he's smart, sneaking around with other women...playin' them), and the baby mama says "thank you very much", takes her $70M, and becomes the butt of Burr's joke in the video...

But this Duke girl? She's not getting one read penny from Tatum, I don't think. But I could be wrong...she was probably dating him before he had his millions, though, so id that still considered 'gold-digging'? IDK...

Bottom line--this needs to disrupt his life enough to start affecting his play, LOL.

I guess I should have disclaimered it and just said this is funny ****. But the concept exists as these instant teen/twenties millionaires are preyed upon. So much that part of their 'financial training' includes Gds. A quick search pulled this article.... Its no secret......Bill Burr just happens to be the funniest social commentator IMO and hits the nail

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201208/nba-rookies-get-schooled-ways-women

[jcsunsfan]

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Wow. She thinks A LOT of herself. Not a good thing to have two girlfriends at once, but committing to the mother of your child is not a bad thing.

Oh. And true love doesn't treat a partner like you are doing them a favor by dating them. This girl is bad news.

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I'm not sure that applies to this girl...she seems to have just had enough of Tatum's two-timing...

...sounds like, he was trying to 'play' both sides of the fence, and if either of those girls are the 'gold-digging wh0re' type, it's the baby mama...she's just along for the ride, playing it cool, until she's done her 'time', and is just waiting for one of two things to happen...

...either Tatum grows up, stops wh0ring around himself, and commits solely to her, and she reaps the benefits of an NBA player's wife, living the life of luxury, WITH her man, and baby...or...

...Tatum continues his stupid ways (thinking he's smart, sneaking around with other women...playin' them), and the baby mama says "thank you very much", takes her $70M, and becomes the butt of Burr's joke in the video...

But this Duke girl? She's not getting one read penny from Tatum, I don't think. But I could be wrong...she was probably dating him before he had his millions, though, so id that still considered 'gold-digging'? IDK...

Bottom line--this needs to disrupt his life enough to start affecting his play, LOL.

I guess I should have disclaimered it and just said this is funny ****. But the concept exists as these instant teen/twenties millionaires are preyed upon. So much that part of their 'financial training' includes Gds. A quick search pulled this article.... Its no secret......Bill Burr just happens to be the funniest social commentator IMO and hits the nail

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201208/nba-rookies-get-schooled-ways-women

Oh, I don't doubt it, and I'm glad the NBA (and I'm sure other sports) address this issue, to make sure these players think with the head where typically receives less blood flow..at least for a lot of them...

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Wow. She thinks A LOT of herself. Not a good thing to have two girlfriends at once, but committing to the mother of your child is not a bad thing.

Oh. And true love doesn't treat a partner like you are doing them a favor by dating them. This girl is bad news.

Well, what I'm gathering...and I could be way off-base here, is that this Duke Volleyball Starlet was GF #1...then Baby Mama came around, likely whispered 'sweet nothings' in his ear..."Oh, don't worry about putting THAT on...I'm already taking the pill," etc., etc., to which he likely responded, like most dumb 18 YOs do "Oh, OK, great!"

Then comes the "I don't know how that could have happened!" (:snicker, snicker: to herself, thinking...ha ha...got you, sucker! I'm on easy street!")

...and you can say what you want, that I don't know that this happened, and you are right; but I've never been accused of being brilliant, and if I can think up this little 'plan', I assure you, that hundreds of women have tried, with many succeeding, in some similar type of strategy/game-plan.

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Its truth though

And Bill Burr was woke as heck but now he's married again isn't he and he's chilled back on dishing out truth bombs



Tatum most likely picked the one with his kid to form a family figure of some sort. He grew up with his mom raising him alone mainly.. That stuff gets embedded in your head... To right the wrong.


And these days I do feel so sorry for young men... It's blatant now. The gold digging and the women out there using social media and hook up sites to take advantage of thirsty men. It's a job.

In the old days the men atleast got to experience a post marriage life and it woke them up to the cunning ways of a lot of women.

I'm married and although my wife ain't a gold digger I see how even those non gold digging types are a handful and really makes you question what if you stayed single haha
It starts off as soul mates but some men lose a big chunk of theirs a few years down the track haha

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I'm not sure that applies to this girl...she seems to have just had enough of Tatum's two-timing...

...sounds like, he was trying to 'play' both sides of the fence, and if either of those girls are the 'gold-digging wh0re' type, it's the baby mama...she's just along for the ride, playing it cool, until she's done her 'time', and is just waiting for one of two things to happen...

...either Tatum grows up, stops wh0ring around himself, and commits solely to her, and she reaps the benefits of an NBA player's wife, living the life of luxury, WITH her man, and baby...or...

...Tatum continues his stupid ways (thinking he's smart, sneaking around with other women...playin' them), and the baby mama says "thank you very much", takes her $70M, and becomes the butt of Burr's joke in the video...

But this Duke girl? She's not getting one read penny from Tatum, I don't think. But I could be wrong...she was probably dating him before he had his millions, though, so id that still considered 'gold-digging'? IDK...

Bottom line--this needs to disrupt his life enough to start affecting his play, LOL.

It takes a very mentally tough dude to juggle this stuff without experiencing a drop in production. The tales of MJ’s off-the-court life were legendary and he’s lucky there was no social media/camera phones around yet. Tiger was juggling multiple lives while he was in his prime if winning majors. Then you have guys like Dirk who went thru a tough patch with the Wife/GF and his play suffered b/c of it. IIRC he actually took some time off. I’m sure there are more examples we don’t know about. These guys are just wired differently.

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I'm not sure that applies to this girl...she seems to have just had enough of Tatum's two-timing...

...sounds like, he was trying to 'play' both sides of the fence, and if either of those girls are the 'gold-digging wh0re' type, it's the baby mama...she's just along for the ride, playing it cool, until she's done her 'time', and is just waiting for one of two things to happen...

...either Tatum grows up, stops wh0ring around himself, and commits solely to her, and she reaps the benefits of an NBA player's wife, living the life of luxury, WITH her man, and baby...or...

...Tatum continues his stupid ways (thinking he's smart, sneaking around with other women...playin' them), and the baby mama says "thank you very much", takes her $70M, and becomes the butt of Burr's joke in the video...

But this Duke girl? She's not getting one read penny from Tatum, I don't think. But I could be wrong...she was probably dating him before he had his millions, though, so id that still considered 'gold-digging'? IDK...

Bottom line--this needs to disrupt his life enough to start affecting his play, LOL.

It takes a very mentally tough dude to juggle this stuff without experiencing a drop in production. The tales of MJ’s off-the-court life were legendary and he’s lucky there was no social media/camera phones around yet. Tiger was juggling multiple lives while he was in his prime if winning majors. Then you have guys like Dirk who went thru a tough patch with the Wife/GF and his play suffered b/c of it. IIRC he actually took some time off. I’m sure there are more examples we don’t know about. These guys are just wired differently.

Our very own Steve Nash as well.

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[timetoshinebaby]

Can't wait till the Lakers put everything on the table and NO says no. Which I expect to happen.

Can't see a trade and think they will just hold it all up and then watch the Lakers self destruct.

Oh Lonzo we only want you until we trade you. Then the Lonzo refusing to report if traded etc. Fun times ahead.

[KLEON]

Do you guys think we'll make any trades in February and if yes, what kind of deals?

[WeekapaugGroove]

Do you guys think we'll make any trades in February and if yes, what kind of deals?

Probably not. Only deals I could really see are them moving one of Jackson or oubre. I doubt they target a stop gap PG but if someone under contract for next year comes available they could pounce. My guess is they address that in the offseason.

Personally I like oubre and the length he brings, unless they don't feel like he's a good fit from a locker room standpoint I wouldn't even take a late 2019 1st for him (partly due to my feeling this is a very shallow draft).

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I’m not sure why everyone wants that explosive point guard... I get it, we will win more games at this moments which is what everyone wants... but I feel like De’Anthony Melton is doing a heck of a job.. I feel like Igor should play him more. He’s 6’4, plays nasty defense and even though his three’s are not where we want, he keeps the other team honest.

The biggest issues i saw last night was the help side defsense on P&R and Jamal playing all three OT’s. I felt like if Josh it Mikal would’ve play some minutes they would’ve of won. Jamal and Book can’t play long stretches together because of their defensive weakened.

Overall, I’m excited to see how this team is involving. There’s 27 games before all star. Let’s win as many as we can and see where we are at.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I’m not sure why everyone wants that explosive point guard... I get it, we will win more games at this moments which is what everyone wants... but I feel like De’Anthony Melton is doing a heck of a job.. I feel like Igor should play him more. He’s 6’4, plays nasty defense and even though his three’s are not where we want, he keeps the other team honest.

The biggest issues i saw last night was the help side defsense on P&R and Jamal playing all three OT’s. I felt like if Josh it Mikal would’ve play some minutes they would’ve of won. Jamal and Book can’t play long stretches together because of their defensive weakened.

Overall, I’m excited to see how this team is involving. There’s 27 games before all star. Let’s win as many as we can and see where we are at.

I agree. IMO they will never win at a high level with a **** defender next to booker. Good teams would just exploit the hell out of them in a playoff series.

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[bwgood77]

Do you guys think we'll make any trades in February and if yes, what kind of deals?

No, unless we want to move Oubre or Jackson and a PG is available, but I am not sure I will see a reason to then depending on our PGs..but we could give someone a test drive. Or perhaps we trade a guy like Daniels or Bender for a mid to late 2nd. Daniels more likely if someone wants a shooter for the playoffs.

[Kerrsed]

LMAO at the Rockets signing Austin Rivers. He is now once again stuck behind Chris Paul, the guy Rivers talked mad s**t about when he left.

And Rivers now adds yet another Suns link to the Rockets.

[bwgood77]

Do you guys think we'll make any trades in February and if yes, what kind of deals?

Probably not. Only deals I could really see are them moving one of Jackson or oubre. I doubt they target a stop gap PG but if someone under contract for next year comes available they could pounce. My guess is they address that in the offseason.

Personally I like oubre and the length he brings, unless they don't feel like he's a good fit from a locker room standpoint I wouldn't even take a late 2019 1st for him (partly due to my feeling this is a very shallow draft).

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And I don't see them moving Jackson unless they get something worthwhile, which I don't see....or if they can clear more cap space and get a young player or pick. But don't see it. Oubre probably more likely if they don't want to re-sign him. I have a feeling he might regress a bit, and his defense can be all over the place. But since he expires anyway and we could let him go, or re-sign him if we can't find someone we like better and his price is cheap. But young wings that can shoot 3s and are long are things people want so he would have the most trade value.

On another note, Sidery had a new article and I don't know how he thinks Rozier will get $15-18 million. There are only going to be like 2 teams that need PGs and there will be a number of them available...why would their price go up in that market? Makes no sense. I don't want him and surely wouldn't pay him double figures.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Do you guys think we'll make any trades in February and if yes, what kind of deals?

Probably not. Only deals I could really see are them moving one of Jackson or oubre. I doubt they target a stop gap PG but if someone under contract for next year comes available they could pounce. My guess is they address that in the offseason.

Personally I like oubre and the length he brings, unless they don't feel like he's a good fit from a locker room standpoint I wouldn't even take a late 2019 1st for him (partly due to my feeling this is a very shallow draft).

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And I don't see them moving Jackson unless they get something worthwhile, which I don't see....or if they can clear more cap space and get a young player or pick. But don't see it. Oubre probably more likely if they don't want to re-sign him. I have a feeling he might regress a bit, and his defense can be all over the place. But since he expires anyway and we could let him go, or resign him if we can't find someone we like better and his price is cheap. But young wings that can shoot 3s and are long are things people want so he would have the most trade value.

On another note, Sidery had a new article and I don't know how he thinks Rozier will get $15-18 million. There are only going to be like 2 teams that need PGs and there will be a number of them available...why would their price go up in that market? Makes no sense. I don't want him and surely wouldn't pay him double figures.

I completely agree on Rozier. Unless he plays better from here in out no way he's getting that much. I'd guess he's closer to the MLE and he probably has to take it because playing behind Kyrie on the QO won't help his value. It hurts him that it's a pretty deep PG fa class, lots of decent but not great guys available who will be reasonably priced.

I actually think some of the estimates for oubre are high. Teams do value wings so he'll have a market but id guess it's closer to 10 than some of the numbers I've seen thrown around. The suns will get a nice 20+ game look to see how he fits on and off the floor. If they like him I'd absolutely keep him because he fits from an age and style of play standpoint.

With Jackson I just see some warning signs they might dump him even if the return is just a minor asset and clearing his money. They are just not beholden to him since he wasn't Jones pick I also think it's a bad sign that oubre is already playing a ton more even though he's had like 2 practices with the team. Hell they trusted Crawford more in important minutes last night, I think that was a mistake but it kind of shows what Igor thinks of Josh.

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[collidingNeurons]

Do you guys think we'll make any trades in February and if yes, what kind of deals?

Probably not. Only deals I could really see are them moving one of Jackson or oubre. I doubt they target a stop gap PG but if someone under contract for next year comes available they could pounce. My guess is they address that in the offseason.

Personally I like oubre and the length he brings, unless they don't feel like he's a good fit from a locker room standpoint I wouldn't even take a late 2019 1st for him (partly due to my feeling this is a very shallow draft).

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And I don't see them moving Jackson unless they get something worthwhile, which I don't see....or if they can clear more cap space and get a young player or pick. But don't see it. Oubre probably more likely if they don't want to re-sign him. I have a feeling he might regress a bit, and his defense can be all over the place. But since he expires anyway and we could let him go, or re-sign him if we can't find someone we like better and his price is cheap. But young wings that can shoot 3s and are long are things people want so he would have the most trade value.

On another note, Sidery had a new article and I don't know how he thinks Rozier will get $15-18 million. There are only going to be like 2 teams that need PGs and there will be a number of them available...why would their price go up in that market? Makes no sense. I don't want him and surely wouldn't pay him double figures.

i dont want him either, he has looked awful the 5 or 6 times i have seen him play this year and last year's playoff run has made him one of the most over rated players in the league. I see him as a inconsistent backup long term more than any kind of answer to our pg hole. id rather watch melton and okobo get their chance to develop

[WeekapaugGroove]

In some ways Rozier is kind of the pg version of Jackson. Love his mindset but the ball just doesn't go in enough and defensively they both kind of appear to be better than the numbers would indicate.

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