Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank

[Clyde_Style]

Nobody is literally saying Frank cannot play in the NBA.

But there are numerous posters here who say that with a straight face, not facetiously

Paging Female Dog Please

[JBreezeNY]

Nobody is literally saying Frank cannot play in the NBA.

But there are numerous posters here who say that with a straight face, not facetiously

Paging Female Dog Please

I’m gonna assume the context is with him mentally and not his actual talent skill.

[Clyde_Style]

Nobody is literally saying Frank cannot play in the NBA.

But there are numerous posters here who say that with a straight face, not facetiously

Paging Female Dog Please

I’m gonna assume the context is with him mentally and not his actual talent skill.

No context required; just saying there are numerous posters here who think Frank is not an NBA player whether they think it is mindset or skillset.

[Chanel Bomber]

He's a project who's not even halfway through his 2nd year

He has some good games where you see flashes, but a lot of really bad games too. Like he's extremely raw or something

He's never gonna be a high scorer. What you hope for is that he gets to 15 or so ppg consistently, which he has shown flashes of like the Charlotte game, that's how he's gonna play going forward.

Whether or not he ends up at PG depends on how tall our primary ball handler ends up being, cause he ain't it.

But all this talk of "Frank isn't an NBA player" is funny to me, cause I don't see any of these posts after he has good games, and y'all act like if he gets his 3 pointer to be consistent he wouldn't be a prototypical 3+D guy at minimum

Just let the kid play. If he develops into something, great. If not, it happens. Philly drafted two huge busts, and they're getting along just fine. But talking about a guy who's supposed to take years to develop as if he's a final product at age 20 is absurd to me, and is why people say you can't rebuild in New York

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If you're addressing me, which you are, then I already said that I missed the recent games where Frank played well. Also, my opinion of Frank doesn't change after one good game, which happens once in a blue moon anyways, but maybe I don't want to rain on the parade when he does play well out of respect for other posters? Merry Christmas to you sir.

[Chanel Bomber]

No one really questions whether Frank can play in the NBA. his defense alone will keep him in.

Can he develop anything consistent on the offensive, particularly at point is the question.

I mean there's a post in here that literally says Frank is not an NBA level player, and it got 3 likes, so yea, there are people that question if he can play.

Other posts saying he's garbage, he's a beta, no improvement, he's regressed. Just go through the thread.

Only if you takes those quotes literal. I don't.

I meant what I said, you can take it literally. I understand you might feel differently and that's cool.

[Knicksfan1992]

No one really questions whether Frank can play in the NBA. his defense alone will keep him in.

Can he develop anything consistent on the offensive, particularly at point is the question.

Yeah like I said around that draft time. Frank was one of the safest picks in that entire draft. Now the 3 point shot hasnt translated like I thought it would but I knew defensively from the minute he stepped on the floor he'd be useful. If he can work his way to even a 35% 3 point shooter and a guy who can make the right reads out of pick and roll and dribble handoffs than thats a pretty good championship level role player.

At this point to me its clear that he cant be the lead ball handler on a team that plans on going anywhere. Just really has no feel for getting to the line or rim with any consistency and he settles for jumpers just way too much for him to ever be a high level offensive player IMO. I think his best course of development is to follow Marcus Smarts development without the silliness like I said earlier. Give a team 20-25 minutes of great team and individual defense and on nights you're feeling it offensively make a few 3s and some nice passes. That's a highly useful player even if its disappointing to most people here who had delusions of him being the point guard version of Giannis. (The most ridiculous comp. That was thrown around that draft thread consistently)

[prophet_of_rage]

Only time will tell, but sports is entertainment. I think you can find a good pg and one that excites in the same package.

then I guess the Spurs are a dying breed

Id love a boring PG like Dejounte Murray on our team

Murray isn't boring. Have you watched him rebound?

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[RiseOfTheEmpire]

I attended a wedding back in the mother land when I went to visit, and afterwards the boys came home with the groom, and the bride was chilling in the room with her girls, just hanging out, talking ****.

So it's late, and it's time for bed, and the kid, who was a virgin, was shook to go in the room, because it was pop the cherry time. This is in Pakistan, where a lot of guys don't get to taste pussy before they get married. It was hilarious to me because of the fact that this was his wife, but he was sweating he was so shook to go inside. I told him dude, this is you, you're not going on a date, it's done, this is pussy for life, go take that ****.

The next morning at breakfast we were ready to congratulate him on getting some...but he just ended up talking to her the whole night, didn't even grab a titty.

That's who Frank reminds me of...a **** coward who can't handle pussy given to him on a platter. This guy has nothing to lose, not gonna get cut, there is no other player to take his shine, the one guy who is the star is out, the guys competing with him are bums....yet he's **** SCARED. Not hurt, injured, fatigued....he's **** SCARED....from taking shots and scoring points.

This is the one downside of foreigners. They can be talented as hell, but if there is culture shock, or they aren't comfortable, they do this type of ****....soon we are gonna have a **** point guard Frederick Weiss on our hands here, a guy who wants to go back home.



Time to dump his ass.

[FemaleDogPlease]

Frank can't handle the NY pressure. Knicks best move would be to trade him and get a future asset back.

If not Knicks should move him to SG.

[RiseOfTheEmpire]

"Alright Franky, go out there and shoot when you get the ball"
Clank, Brick, Bang
"Coach, why are you taking me out?"
"You're missing shots so time to try someone new"
"But, you told me to shoot"

It's really hard for any human to have confidence when actions speak louder than words. Fiz is not NBA head coach material, another sign of NYK incompetence when you have Bud, who wanted the job, didn't get it.

And there's a Frank thread for this sidenote

So wrong, the fact is after he misses a couple of shots, he completely stops taking them, he even stops playing, he gives the ball up and stands in the corner and makes them play 4 on 5.

People keep harping on this, but it's so far from the truth. The solution to this is not easy as just leaving him in there for 40 minutes a game and letting him sweat it out, he's not even trying to be aggressive, and it makes it harder on the other 4 guys.

This is the whole reason he's being coddled and handled with kid gloves right now, because he's fragile mentally, it has nothing to do with his physical ability.

If I was wrong, he would prove it by going out one game and holding the ball, controlling the offense, bombing and passing away to prove a point to his coach, but he's a shook one and goes out there and pretends to run a system when the coach doesn't even call plays.

[HarthorneWingo]

I attended a wedding back in the mother land when I went to visit, and afterwards the boys came home with the groom, and the bride was chilling in the room with her girls, just hanging out, talking ****.

So it's late, and it's time for bed, and the kid, who was a virgin, was shook to go in the room, because it was pop the cherry time. This is in Pakistan, where a lot of guys don't get to taste pussy before they get married. It was hilarious to me because of the fact that this was his wife, but he was sweating he was so shook to go inside. I told him dude, this is you, you're not going on a date, it's done, this is pussy for life, go take that ****.

The next morning at breakfast we were ready to congratulate him on getting some...but he just ended up talking to her the whole night, didn't even grab a titty.

That's who Frank reminds me of...a **** coward who can't handle pussy given to him on a platter. This guy has nothing to lose, not gonna get cut, there is no other player to take his shine, the one guy who is the star is out, the guys competing with him are bums....yet he's **** SCARED. Not hurt, injured, fatigued....he's **** SCARED....from taking shots and scoring points.

This is the one downside of foreigners. They can be talented as hell, but if there is culture shock, or they aren't comfortable, they do this type of ****....soon we are gonna have a **** point guard Frederick Weiss on our hands here, a guy who wants to go back home.



Time to dump his ass.

I was reading your excellent post and enjoyed the hell out of it until the end. I didn't think you were going there. We can't give up on Frank like that because the talent is there. Once the light goes on for Frank, he'll be a very special player.

[HarthorneWingo]

No one really questions whether Frank can play in the NBA. his defense alone will keep him in.

Can he develop anything consistent on the offensive, particularly at point is the question.

It's too early to tell.

[Greenie]

I attended a wedding back in the mother land when I went to visit, and afterwards the boys came home with the groom, and the bride was chilling in the room with her girls, just hanging out, talking ****.

So it's late, and it's time for bed, and the kid, who was a virgin, was shook to go in the room, because it was pop the cherry time. This is in Pakistan, where a lot of guys don't get to taste pussy before they get married. It was hilarious to me because of the fact that this was his wife, but he was sweating he was so shook to go inside. I told him dude, this is you, you're not going on a date, it's done, this is pussy for life, go take that ****.

The next morning at breakfast we were ready to congratulate him on getting some...but he just ended up talking to her the whole night, didn't even grab a titty.

That's who Frank reminds me of...a **** coward who can't handle pussy given to him on a platter. This guy has nothing to lose, not gonna get cut, there is no other player to take his shine, the one guy who is the star is out, the guys competing with him are bums....yet he's **** SCARED. Not hurt, injured, fatigued....he's **** SCARED....from taking shots and scoring points.

This is the one downside of foreigners. They can be talented as hell, but if there is culture shock, or they aren't comfortable, they do this type of ****....soon we are gonna have a **** point guard Frederick Weiss on our hands here, a guy who wants to go back home.



Time to dump his ass.

Wow

[BLACKFEET 2010]

I attended a wedding back in the mother land when I went to visit, and afterwards the boys came home with the groom, and the bride was chilling in the room with her girls, just hanging out, talking ****.

So it's late, and it's time for bed, and the kid, who was a virgin, was shook to go in the room, because it was pop the cherry time. This is in Pakistan, where a lot of guys don't get to taste pussy before they get married. It was hilarious to me because of the fact that this was his wife, but he was sweating he was so shook to go inside. I told him dude, this is you, you're not going on a date, it's done, this is pussy for life, go take that ****.

The next morning at breakfast we were ready to congratulate him on getting some...but he just ended up talking to her the whole night, didn't even grab a titty.

That's who Frank reminds me of...a **** coward who can't handle pussy given to him on a platter. This guy has nothing to lose, not gonna get cut, there is no other player to take his shine, the one guy who is the star is out, the guys competing with him are bums....yet he's **** SCARED. Not hurt, injured, fatigued....he's **** SCARED....from taking shots and scoring points.

This is the one downside of foreigners. They can be talented as hell, but if there is culture shock, or they aren't comfortable, they do this type of ****....soon we are gonna have a **** point guard Frederick Weiss on our hands here, a guy who wants to go back home.



Time to dump his ass.

I was reading your excellent post and enjoyed the hell out of it until the end. I didn't think you were going there. We can't give up on Frank like that because the talent is there. Once the light goes on for Frank, he'll be a very special player.

I also didn’t see the ending coming.
Quite engaging tho. My favorite part was the refusal to even touch a titty. I didn’t even know we could say titty.

Titty. And I’m done.

[kane2021]

My opinion is that the mentality issue is because he’s smart enough to know the physical tools and skill level aren’t there for this level. That’s why there’s no confidence. Frank isn’t stupid. Watch him talk about basketball. He’s very confident in what he’s saying. He knows the game. He’s having trouble employing it because he physically can’t. So he’s playing safe and staying out the way. Forcing him isn’t helping. He doesn’t want to do that.


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[HarthorneWingo]

I attended a wedding back in the mother land when I went to visit, and afterwards the boys came home with the groom, and the bride was chilling in the room with her girls, just hanging out, talking ****.

So it's late, and it's time for bed, and the kid, who was a virgin, was shook to go in the room, because it was pop the cherry time. This is in Pakistan, where a lot of guys don't get to taste pussy before they get married. It was hilarious to me because of the fact that this was his wife, but he was sweating he was so shook to go inside. I told him dude, this is you, you're not going on a date, it's done, this is pussy for life, go take that ****.

The next morning at breakfast we were ready to congratulate him on getting some...but he just ended up talking to her the whole night, didn't even grab a titty.

That's who Frank reminds me of...a **** coward who can't handle pussy given to him on a platter. This guy has nothing to lose, not gonna get cut, there is no other player to take his shine, the one guy who is the star is out, the guys competing with him are bums....yet he's **** SCARED. Not hurt, injured, fatigued....he's **** SCARED....from taking shots and scoring points.

This is the one downside of foreigners. They can be talented as hell, but if there is culture shock, or they aren't comfortable, they do this type of ****....soon we are gonna have a **** point guard Frederick Weiss on our hands here, a guy who wants to go back home.



Time to dump his ass.

I was reading your excellent post and enjoyed the hell out of it until the end. I didn't think you were going there. We can't give up on Frank like that because the talent is there. Once the light goes on for Frank, he'll be a very special player.

I also didn’t see the ending coming.
Quite engaging tho. My favorite part was the refusal to even touch a titty. I didn’t even know we could say titty.

Titty. And I’m done.

Oh, you did it now. Wait till Greenie finds out.

[GONYK]

I find it interesting that a thread full of people who are enamored with Vonleh, Mudiay and even Burke want to give up on a player younger than Mitch.

[prophet_of_rage]

Nobody is literally saying Frank cannot play in the NBA.

But there are numerous posters here who say that with a straight face, not facetiously

Paging Female Dog Please

It's simply expression. We see him take the court so obviously he can play in the nba. They mean he cannot play well.

Same way people say THJ sucks. No he does not actually create partial vacuums on the court, but he does have a lot of poorly played games.

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[god shammgod]

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Ntilikina’s popularity is a paradox. Heated online debates rage between Frank fans and Frank haters. Is it because he plays for a fan base obsessed with finding the next great point guard hope? Is it because he is too reluctant to shoot in an era when point guards are expected to be more than pass-first facilitators?

Or is it the fact that he was Phil Jackson’s draft pick? That the Knicks passed on two point guards — Dennis Smith Jr. and Donovan Mitchell — to take him? That his development is not progressing fast enough? And on it goes.

The amount of angst and ink spent on the great Frank debate is certainly out of proportion with the number of minutes — 22 — he is averaging. The love, though, seems to outweigh the criticism.

[prophet_of_rage]

I find it interesting that a thread full of people who are enamored with Vonleh, Mudiay and even Burke want to give up on a player younger than Mitch.

They're all roadkill to me.

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