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OT: Zion Prophesized?!

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Re: OT: Zion Prophesized?! 

Post#161 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:35 am

K-DOT wrote:
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K-DOT wrote:That's a fair viewpoint

It's kinda hard to judge what a trade might look like cause there are so many variables still in play, like we have no idea who's gonna be picking top 5, if there's gonna be a team with a top 5 and top 10 pick, or if anyone else distinguishes themselves as the year goes on

I think it's not totally blasphemous to say trading back might be a good idea, even if it means losing Zion. To me, he's like I said, and A-class prospect, I've comped him to Larry Johnson, maybe Barkley at his absolute peak if everything goes right, but more realistically he's a Larry Johnson type. That's not an insult, he's clearly the best prospect at this moment and worthy of a #1 pick (unlike say, 2013 when there really wasn't anyone worthy of a #1 pick at the time), but he's not good enough for me to say there's no package that I'd trade him for


I think barkley is his floor, the kid is bigger, possibly stronger, and way more athletic , not to mention a better passer than Barkley.

Barkley is his floor

His floor is an MVP, HOF caliber player

You're either overrating Zion or underrating Barkley, or both


Barkley was a freak in college. At 6'4" and 250 lbs., he defied gravity. As does Zion. Can Zion pass like Charles? Charles was a very good passer.

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Re: OT: Zion Prophesized?! 

Post#162 » by blanko » Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:45 am

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RHODEY wrote:
There's no reason he shouldn't be atleast as good as Barkley and yes Barkley was damn good.


His floor is a top 20 all time nba player? Yall are drunk off this hype


His floor is Barkley,I stand by that.
Think he is a better passer than barkey was. I think he will rack up good assist numbers in a more open nba.

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Re: OT: Zion Prophesized?! 

Post#163 » by prophet_of_rage » Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:47 am

K-DOT wrote:
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K-DOT wrote:What's the point at which you think it's okay to trade out of getting Zion, though?

Like, is it worth it to give him up for say, Barrett and Culver or Garland? Or do you think we need one A-Class prospect more than two B-Class prospects?
I always think having the A class talent is better than having the B class talent. I would maybe make an exception for Barret or Cam because if were going by letter grades I would put those guys at like B plus level...if we were getting another higher level young proven nba level player with them then maybe I would consider jt

So like for example let's say the Wiz start to really falter and they desperately want Zion to start fresh and get a legit top 5 player potential guy. If they end up with 2 or 3 while we get 1 then I would heavily consider taking Beal and Barret or Reddish for Zion. Something along those lines...

Theres not a lot of viable examples of that naturally because tanking teams are generally devoid of legit proven NBA talent so it's hard to come up with a realistic construct like that.

That's a fair viewpoint

It's kinda hard to judge what a trade might look like cause there are so many variables still in play, like we have no idea who's gonna be picking top 5, if there's gonna be a team with a top 5 and top 10 pick, or if anyone else distinguishes themselves as the year goes on

I think it's not totally blasphemous to say trading back might be a good idea, even if it means losing Zion. To me, he's like I said, and A-class prospect, I've comped him to Larry Johnson, maybe Barkley at his absolute peak if everything goes right, but more realistically he's a Larry Johnson type. That's not an insult, he's clearly the best prospect at this moment and worthy of a #1 pick (unlike say, 2013 when there really wasn't anyone worthy of a #1 pick at the time), but he's not good enough for me to say there's no package that I'd trade him for
He tops out as LJ to me. I've seen him live and to me he is Rodney Rogers because of his scattershot range.

I prefer Ducky Jr. as a player.

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Re: OT: Zion Prophesized?! 

Post#164 » by prophet_of_rage » Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:49 am

KnicksGod wrote:Zion, Knox, KP. Could that be better than Philly, Boston?
No. Not for four years.

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Re: OT: Zion Prophesized?! 

Post#165 » by prophet_of_rage » Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:57 am

K-DOT wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
K-DOT wrote:That's a fair viewpoint

It's kinda hard to judge what a trade might look like cause there are so many variables still in play, like we have no idea who's gonna be picking top 5, if there's gonna be a team with a top 5 and top 10 pick, or if anyone else distinguishes themselves as the year goes on

I think it's not totally blasphemous to say trading back might be a good idea, even if it means losing Zion. To me, he's like I said, and A-class prospect, I've comped him to Larry Johnson, maybe Barkley at his absolute peak if everything goes right, but more realistically he's a Larry Johnson type. That's not an insult, he's clearly the best prospect at this moment and worthy of a #1 pick (unlike say, 2013 when there really wasn't anyone worthy of a #1 pick at the time), but he's not good enough for me to say there's no package that I'd trade him for


I think barkley is his floor, the kid is bigger, possibly stronger, and way more athletic , not to mention a better passer than Barkley.

Barkley is his floor

His floor is an MVP, HOF caliber player

You're either overrating Zion or underrating Barkley, or both
Hyperbolizing at the highest level.

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Re: OT: Zion Prophesized?! 

Post#166 » by Juco24 » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:38 pm

prophet_of_rage wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:Zion, Knox, KP. Could that be better than Philly, Boston?
No. Not for four years.

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Re: OT: Zion Prophesized?! 

Post#167 » by prophet_of_rage » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:51 pm

Juco24 wrote:
prophet_of_rage wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:Zion, Knox, KP. Could that be better than Philly, Boston?
No. Not for four years.

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KD tilts the scale. Lol
He wasnt in the list

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