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Post#421 » by CP War Hawks » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:42 pm

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Re: Welcome to ATL John Collins! 

Post#422 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Dec 25, 2018 2:36 pm

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Post#423 » by tbhawksfan1 » Tue Dec 25, 2018 5:44 pm

He still needs to develop a shot and get stronger. No matter how hard I squint, all I see is a dunker with marginal D. he's putting up nice numbers on... the current Hawks.

Running the O through him might expose his limitations more than help him. He's a nice player, but no star.
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Post#424 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:26 am

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When there are eyes on the Atlanta Hawks at all, they pull toward Trae Young—the slight, adventurous point guard more willing to launch 28-footers than any rookie in NBA history. That seems to suit Collins just fine. The more the focus stays with Young, the less likely a defense will be to track his teammate’s every move. Opponents might lose Collins as he slips to the rim, or forget to box him out when a jumper goes up. They might skim the scouting report and think of Collins as a vertical athlete, only to watch him put the ball on the floor, drive past defenders, and dunk just the same. He is the forgotten man of the 2017 draft class, a No. 19 pick already making good on his best-case scenario.

Watch Collins play and you’ll see flashes of every variety of modern big. There’s range to his jumper, even as he’s working to stabilize it. Chasing him off the line only allows Collins to slide comfortably into the lane, where he finds healthy alternatives as a matter of course. When working out of the pick-and-roll, Collins functions as a persistent lob threat; not only can he catch and finish off that initial momentum, but by waiting out the defense and lingering in the right spaces. Already Collins has shown aptitude in defending multiple positions, including the lively sort of wings and guards that make a big man’s life difficult. There’s no one quality from which a proper reputation might grow. Instead, Collins is all smooth shifts and rounded edges, revolving to fit the needs of a particular moment.
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Re: Welcome to ATL John Collins! 

Post#425 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:36 pm

tbhawksfan1 wrote:He still needs to develop a shot and get stronger. No matter how hard I squint, all I see is a dunker with marginal D. he's putting up nice numbers on... the current Hawks.

Running the O through him might expose his limitations more than help him.
He's a nice player, but no star.




I kinda have come to the same conclusion. But this is still an enticing scenario. A highlight reel, marketable 'star' who gets all his production on hustle plays.

If he can be 20/10 guy without being a focal point on offense, that is definite a plus as we seek to gather even more young players to build around.

(I don't know how he'd pair with a guy like Zion...but that's a good problem to have in my book.)
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Post#426 » by Spud2nique » Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:39 pm

What a special young big man. We made a nice selection in John Collins. I’m just surprised because we rarely make a smart pick at 19....actually I shouldn’t say that we got Teague around there a while back as well.
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Re: Welcome to ATL John Collins! 

Post#427 » by tbhawksfan1 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:27 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
tbhawksfan1 wrote:He still needs to develop a shot and get stronger. No matter how hard I squint, all I see is a dunker with marginal D. he's putting up nice numbers on... the current Hawks.

Running the O through him might expose his limitations more than help him.
He's a nice player, but no star.




I kinda have come to the same conclusion. But this is still an enticing scenario. A highlight reel, marketable 'star' who gets all his production on hustle plays.

If he can be 20/10 guy without being a focal point on offense, that is definite a plus as we seek to gather even more young players to build around.

(I don't know how he'd pair with a guy like Zion...but that's a good problem to have in my book.)


Collins and Zion might be a bit small as a starting NBA front-court. O would be nice but got to play D and boards
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Post#428 » by tbhawksfan1 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:29 pm

Agree on Collins. he's a nice player, but won't be anywhere near the level we need to go to the top
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Re: Welcome to ATL John Collins! 

Post#429 » by jayu70 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:33 pm

Spud2nique wrote:What a special young big man. We made a nice selection in John Collins. I’m just surprised because we rarely make a smart pick at 19....actually I shouldn’t say that we got Teague around there a while back as well.

#19 has been good to us. I'm hoping we can get another 1st (sinxe we arent getting the Cavs pick) trading one or some combination of vets and hope it ends up being another #19 pick that pans out ala Collins and Huerter.
That would be something. :D
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Re: Welcome to ATL John Collins! 

Post#430 » by Spud2nique » Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:32 pm

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Spud2nique wrote:What a special young big man. We made a nice selection in John Collins. I’m just surprised because we rarely make a smart pick at 19....actually I shouldn’t say that we got Teague around there a while back as well.

#19 has been good to us. I'm hoping we can get another 1st (sinxe we arent getting the Cavs pick) trading one or some combination of vets and hope it ends up being another #19 pick that pans out ala Collins and Huerter.
That would be something. :D


Yessss third time is a charm! But first two were very nice!

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