Game 32: Washington Wizards (13-21) @ Detroit Pistons (15-16) - 7:00 PM ET

[Kaboom3]

Oh my bad....you have 23k posts....you surely must know basketball. Bitch.

Really do you even know the team (GS) that Dominates and set up this new era is also elite defensively? Probably didn’t even dawn on you cause your a casual who needs to see flashy things offensively. It’s a two way game still and yes defense matters and what separates them from any other efficient 3 point chucking offensive only minded team.

You lost me at GS was elite defensively. No they are not. No team in the NBA is elite defensively. Do you see the scores????

[Kaboom3]

Oh my bad....you have 23k posts....you surely must know basketball. Bitch.

Really do you even know the team (GS) that Dominates and set up this new era is also elite defensively? Probably didn’t even dawn on you cause your a casual who needs to see flashy things offensively. It’s a two way game still and yes defense matters and what separates them from any other efficient 3 point chucking offensive only minded team.

You lost me at GS was elite defensively. No they are not. No team in the NBA is elite defensively. Do you see the scores????

Keep rolling 2nd round lock down defender Brown out there for 25 minutes a night and see how that turns out for you. Dude is terrible.

[ComboGuardCity]

I think Luke can be a very good offensive player. But he’s such a horrible athlete that he’ll never be more than a 4th or 5th guy. I know it’s cliche to compare white dudes, but JJ was a GOAT shooter at Duke. He pretty much hit his NBA ceiling and he was never more than the 4th guy. JJ is pretty much as good as Luke can get because he’s so limited athletically. The dude has to pump fake on 1 on 1 fast breaks. He’s not a gifted ball handler like Ginobli and he clearly doesn’t have the vision.

[7r5ur]

Bruce Brown at a team high +19 in a close game as a starter

Yeah yeah....we aint winning many games with him finishing. He's too much of an offensive liability on such a limited offensive team. Kennard needs to get it going. Maybe Johnson or Robinson will. Maybe once Ish is back he'll finish games with Reggie but dont really like that lineup either. Such a sucky position to be in.

The thing with these starters is whoever sits in the rotating chair of SJ, GR3, Luke, Langston, and Bruce as the “5th man”, they’re really only out there for defense because Casey’s offense does not involve them.

It’s good to have someone out there to stretch the D as a decoy, but still a waste imo. Probably better with Bruce’s hustle and D

[MotownMadness]

Really do you even know the team (GS) that Dominates and set up this new era is also elite defensively? Probably didn’t even dawn on you cause your a casual who needs to see flashy things offensively. It’s a two way game still and yes defense matters and what separates them from any other efficient 3 point chucking offensive only minded team.

You lost me at GS was elite defensively. No they are not. No team in the NBA is elite defensively. Do you see the scores????

Keep rolling 2nd round lock down defender Brown out there for 25 minutes a night and see how that turns out for you. Dude is terrible.

Quoting and talking to yourself, Did you forget to switch accounts first?

[7r5ur]

I think Luke can be a very good offensive player. But he’s such a horrible athlete that he’ll never be more than a 4th or 5th guy. I know it’s cliche to compare white dudes, but JJ was a GOAT shooter at Duke. He pretty much hit his NBA ceiling and he was never more than the 4th guy. JJ is pretty much as good as Luke can get because he’s so limited athletically. The dude has to pump fake on 1 on 1 fast breaks. He’s not a gifted ball handler like Ginobli and he clearly doesn’t have the vision.

I think he’s craftier than JJ and has a little better handle (especially at his age). He doesn’t have ginobili’s slashing game, but his shot is on a different planet imo. A 3rd or 4th starter who is a great shooter would be great to have.

But I have no doubt in my mind that he’ll be our next Middleton/Dinwiddie if we continue down this road.

[buzzkilloton]

I think Luke can be a very good offensive player. But he’s such a horrible athlete that he’ll never be more than a 4th or 5th guy. I know it’s cliche to compare white dudes, but JJ was a GOAT shooter at Duke. He pretty much hit his NBA ceiling and he was never more than the 4th guy. JJ is pretty much as good as Luke can get because he’s so limited athletically. The dude has to pump fake on 1 on 1 fast breaks. He’s not a gifted ball handler like Ginobli and he clearly doesn’t have the vision.

I think he’s craftier than JJ and has a little better handle (especially at his age).

I have no doubt in my mind that he’ll be our next Middleton/Dinwiddie if we continue down this road.

LOL at trying to predict him to be the next Middleton/Dinwiddie who were 2nd round picks that didnt get any run with us. Lukes had plenty of time to play. He was starting when he didnt deserve it for way to long. No surprised we won today with him not in the game.

He projects to be the next Ellenson/Stanley if anything.This guy has a future in China not the nba.

[7r5ur]

I think Luke can be a very good offensive player. But he’s such a horrible athlete that he’ll never be more than a 4th or 5th guy. I know it’s cliche to compare white dudes, but JJ was a GOAT shooter at Duke. He pretty much hit his NBA ceiling and he was never more than the 4th guy. JJ is pretty much as good as Luke can get because he’s so limited athletically. The dude has to pump fake on 1 on 1 fast breaks. He’s not a gifted ball handler like Ginobli and he clearly doesn’t have the vision.

I think he’s craftier than JJ and has a little better handle (especially at his age).

I have no doubt in my mind that he’ll be our next Middleton/Dinwiddie if we continue down this road.

LOL at trying to predict him to be the next Middleton/Dinwiddie who were 2nd round picks that didnt get any run with us. Lukes had plenty of time to play. He was starting when he didnt deserve it for way to long. No surprised we won today with him not in the game.

He projects to be the next Ellenson/Stanley if anything.This guy has a future in China not the nba.

Putting him in he corner all game and playing him like he’s Michael Curry has nothing to do with what he’d do on a team that passes the ball.

Even his “starting” was token. He was still barely playing bench minutes and was never involved in the offense. Instead everyone just stands around watching Blake isolate. Obviously Bruce Brown will be better in this role because it fits his strengths and weaknesses better.

[buzzkilloton]

I think he’s craftier than JJ and has a little better handle (especially at his age).

I have no doubt in my mind that he’ll be our next Middleton/Dinwiddie if we continue down this road.

LOL at trying to predict him to be the next Middleton/Dinwiddie who were 2nd round picks that didnt get any run with us. Lukes had plenty of time to play. He was starting when he didnt deserve it for way to long. No surprised we won today with him not in the game.

He projects to be the next Ellenson/Stanley if anything.This guy has a future in China not the nba.

Putting him in he corner all game and playing him like he’s Michael Curry has nothing to do with what he’d do on a team that passes the ball.

Even his “starting” was token. He was still barely playing bench minutes and was never involved in the offense. Instead everyone just stands around watching Blake isolate. Obviously Bruce Brown will be better in this role because it fits his strengths and weaknesses better.

18.6min 5.6 ppg 471TS -02 VORP 5.8PER .01FTA

The reason his starting was token is he sucks. Hes not even replacement level. Stanley has a higher TS then this guy. If this guy wasnt someone you liked as a fan that was drafted in the 2nd round you would rip Casey for giving him 18mins a game.

[The_Irony]

I remember Bruce projected as a mid/late first rounder before his injury

just like.....


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dinwiddie

Won't happen. However, when Kennard gets traded and drops 16+ a night for a team that actually gives him a chance to work through tough stretches it will be like Dinwiddie all over again.

kennard is soft..good luck to him elsewhere.

[El Chivo]

Bruce Brown is our Marcus Smart. You always need a player like him.

[The_Irony]

Bruce Brown is our Marcus Smart. You always need a player like him.

we're the only championship org that completely ignores our identity. I respect when pat Riley said the heat will never tank

we need more Bruce browns and less ellenson and kennards

[Spider156]

Oh my bad....you have 23k posts....you surely must know basketball. Bitch.

Really do you even know the team (GS) that Dominates and set up this new era is also elite defensively? Probably didn’t even dawn on you cause your a casual who needs to see flashy things offensively. It’s a two way game still and yes defense matters and what separates them from any other efficient 3 point chucking offensive only minded team.

You lost me at GS was elite defensively. No they are not. No team in the NBA is elite defensively. Do you see the scores????

It's the rules change. The whole league has been forced to play softer because refs are calling everything now. It's horrible. The scores are up because that's what the rules did. Defense as we know it has never been the same since help defense was allowed (Jordan didn't play against help defense). Defense got much tougher then. But then the hand check rule was applied and defense got softer. That's just the rules of the game ruining things as normal.

[buzzkilloton]

Bruce Brown is our Marcus Smart. You always need a player like him.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/columnists/john-niyo/2018/12/27/niyo-dwane-casey-sends-message-steadying-ship-without-luke-kennard/2414117002/


Brown has carved out a role as a rookie with his defensive tenacity, which was on display again Wednesday. Wall finished with 21 points on 9-of-19 shooting for the Wizards, who’ve gone off the rails again the last few weeks. But only a third of that scoring came when Brown was on the court.

“Yeah, he’s great, man,” said Blake Griffin, who finished with a game-high 23 points as well as nine rebounds and six assists in the win. “He does a great job every night, especially being a rookie. Every night, I tell him there’s no other rookie that can guard like he can guard, and I firmly believe that. You look at all the different guys he’s been thrown at in his first year, and he’s done a great job on all of them.

“So he’s huge for us. And not just defensively. He gets out on the break and runs and finishes and makes hustle plays.”


Dude looks like a 2nd round steal. Hes been shooting 40% from 3 the last 17 games(small sample but still) He has a chance at developing into a nice 3 and D player and at worst is going to be a good defensive specialist.

Its absurd that rather then be excited about hitting on a 2nd round pick for once so many fans spend time complaining about him because Casey plays him over Luke. Luke is a 3pt specialist who has a 471TS while Brownjr is a rookie defensive specialist with a 494TS%. Theirs a reason Casey is playing him over Luke.

[pistonsbball]

Some of you don't know **** about basketball. Bruce is our best prospect since Drummond.

[7r5ur]

Bruce Brown is our Marcus Smart. You always need a player like him.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/columnists/john-niyo/2018/12/27/niyo-dwane-casey-sends-message-steadying-ship-without-luke-kennard/2414117002/


Brown has carved out a role as a rookie with his defensive tenacity, which was on display again Wednesday. Wall finished with 21 points on 9-of-19 shooting for the Wizards, who’ve gone off the rails again the last few weeks. But only a third of that scoring came when Brown was on the court.

“Yeah, he’s great, man,” said Blake Griffin, who finished with a game-high 23 points as well as nine rebounds and six assists in the win. “He does a great job every night, especially being a rookie. Every night, I tell him there’s no other rookie that can guard like he can guard, and I firmly believe that. You look at all the different guys he’s been thrown at in his first year, and he’s done a great job on all of them.

“So he’s huge for us. And not just defensively. He gets out on the break and runs and finishes and makes hustle plays.”


Dude looks like a 2nd round steal. Hes been shooting 40% from 3 the last 17 games(small sample but still) He has a chance at developing into a nice 3 and D player and at worst is going to be a good defensive specialist.

Its absurd that rather then be excited about hitting on a 2nd round pick for once so many fans spend time complaining about him because Casey plays him over Luke. Luke is a 3pt specialist who has a 471TS while Brownjr is a rookie defensive specialist with a 494TS%. Theirs a reason Casey is playing him over Luke.

And last year before Casey came and brought in his ISO offense Luke’s TS% was 56%. I’m sure he forgot how to shoot.

Not to say Bruce hasn’t earned his spot. He has and I think he’s going to be a good player for us, but it is obviously in our best interest to help our young players succeed. Playing Luke like he’s got the skill set of Bruce Brown is not how you do that.

The fact that Casey seemed to almost infer that we won because he benched Luke makes him seem like he has the mentality of a realgmer rather than a professional head coach. We won because Langston had one of his “good” streaky games and we shot 95% on free throws. We’ve lost plenty of games just like this because those 2 things are extremely rare.

[Billl]

People have weird memories about the bad boys era. League average scoring in 88-89 was 109.2 points per game. The 2017-2018 average was 106.3. The suns and the nuggets both averaged 118. That's 5 ppg more than GSW put up. And remember, this is before teams were taking many 3s. The thing that stood out about the pistons was that they had all sorts of offensive firepower AND played physical defense. We aren't talking about low scoring slugfests. Chuck Daily used to always say "first one to 100 wins".