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Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank

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What should the Knicks approach be with Frank

Try to develop until prime years (~26) - essentially hold until it's 100% clear what he is
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30%
Hold and try to develop until the end of rookie contract
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Hold until season's end/middle of next season to make a decision
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9%
Look to trade him now for assets and/or a salary dump
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15%
Other
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3%
 
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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#341 » by Oscirus » Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:37 am

Yep it's only a matter of time till Frank is traded. I'd say someone give us 2 seconds just to jump the line and the team that gets him is going to make us look dumb as ****. But hey since Fitz couldn't develop him into a score first pg in less than half a season, it mustve been warranted.
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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#342 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:09 am

Oscirus wrote:Yep it's only a matter of time till Frank is traded. I'd say someone give us 2 seconds just to jump the line and the team that gets him is going to make us look dumb as ****. But hey since Fitz couldn't develop him into a score first pg in less than half a season, it mustve been warranted.


Yes, trying to pound a square peg into a round hole is hardly evidence of ability to develop talent, only that the Fiz/Pills Trio are sifting through the roster to see who fits some vague paradigm of go get em boy!

TBH, I kind of dread seeing Frank traded and flourishing, because then there is really no choice but to rub it in people's faces. I'd rather him stay and find his role here than rub salt into the wounds of impatient stat hounds.
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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#343 » by Crackerjack465 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:13 am

If you could somehow package him with some of our worse contracts (ThJr. and Lee) in a straight salary dump, I'd do it. I like Frank but hes at best a solid role player on a good team. You need guys like him; but if you can free up two max slots you don't lose that opportunity.
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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#344 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:16 am

Crackerjack465 wrote:If you could somehow package him with some of our worse contracts (ThJr. and Lee) in a straight salary dump, I'd do it. I like Frank but hes at best a solid role player on a good team. You need guys like him; but if you can free up two max slots you don't lose that opportunity.


Dumping solid future role players for Kemba Walker or Kyrie Ambulance Case Irving is not really a good thing. KD or AD are really the only ones to clear the decks for.
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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#345 » by prophet_of_rage » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:29 am

mpharris36 wrote:
prophet_of_rage wrote:
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that could be u just insinuating what you want to insinuate...pot


You called the whole fan base not that smart. You realize that includes you, yes?


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i said somewhere around the fan base not being that smart...

that doesn't mean that everyone that is a knicks fan is dumb

i didn't know I had to break that down for you....
Fan base not being that smart isn't some of the fan base being that smart. I know you meant to exclude yourself, but you didn't.

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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#346 » by Capn'O » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:34 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
Crackerjack465 wrote:If you could somehow package him with some of our worse contracts (ThJr. and Lee) in a straight salary dump, I'd do it. I like Frank but hes at best a solid role player on a good team. You need guys like him; but if you can free up two max slots you don't lose that opportunity.


Dumping solid future role players for Kemba Walker or Kyrie Ambulance Case Irving is not really a good thing. KD or AD are really the only ones to clear the decks for.


Also Kawhi
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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#347 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:53 am

Capn'O wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Crackerjack465 wrote:If you could somehow package him with some of our worse contracts (ThJr. and Lee) in a straight salary dump, I'd do it. I like Frank but hes at best a solid role player on a good team. You need guys like him; but if you can free up two max slots you don't lose that opportunity.


Dumping solid future role players for Kemba Walker or Kyrie Ambulance Case Irving is not really a good thing. KD or AD are really the only ones to clear the decks for.


Also Kawhi


He gives me pause. He couldnt communicate with the SA front office. Something is wrong with him upstairs maybe.
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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#348 » by Capn'O » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:59 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Dumping solid future role players for Kemba Walker or Kyrie Ambulance Case Irving is not really a good thing. KD or AD are really the only ones to clear the decks for.


Also Kawhi


He gives me pause. He couldnt communicate with the SA front office. Something is wrong with him upstairs maybe.


Yeah. But he can **** play, man.
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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#349 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:05 am

Capn'O wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Also Kawhi


He gives me pause. He couldnt communicate with the SA front office. Something is wrong with him upstairs maybe.


Yeah. But he can **** play, man.


LOL, there's that too
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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#350 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:09 am

OK, to appease Cap and Besart, here goes:

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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#351 » by BKAY » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:28 am

I do wish there was less of a microscope on how Fiz is handling Frank. The attention that the situation has been drawing is worse than the actual situation imo.
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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#352 » by mpharris36 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:33 am

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mpharris36 wrote:
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You called the whole fan base not that smart. You realize that includes you, yes?


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i said somewhere around the fan base not being that smart...

that doesn't mean that everyone that is a knicks fan is dumb

i didn't know I had to break that down for you....
Fan base not being that smart isn't some of the fan base being that smart. I know you meant to exclude yourself, but you didn't.

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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#353 » by Jose7 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:37 am

This team is 9-26. The development of Frank,
Knox, dot, Mitch, trier should be the only spotlights of this team. Flat thinks we’re stupid? Developing trey Burke who’s marry Collins like April is not what we give a fucc about. Watching Tim jr play 35 minutes a game looking like a cadaver on a string every defensive possession is not what the fucc basketball is. Mudiay situation is whatever. The perception is that he’s playing well— but we all know what he really is and he’ll never lead any team to winning.

Your one guy who hangs his hat on defense and team play can’t sniff the court because his shot ain’t falling consistently..so the approach is to bench him for guys shooting worse, turning the ball over more and playing some of the worst defense in mordern basketball..what a coach. He’s clueless..his yes men staff too.
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Post#354 » by Jose7 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:48 am

Fizdale”yeah frank is our stopper Swiss Army knife..blah blah blah” knowing his offensive game is a huge work in progress then proceeds to hardly play him all season is hardly development. When it comes to basketball, It’s mistrust, it’s deception. You can hear it in Franks voice. If we were 26-9 fighting for a #1 seeed and frank was shooting 30% and dragging the team ,okay that’s one thing to slow down playing time but we are going to lose 60 games this year. No excuse.
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Post#355 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:10 am

Capn'O wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Also Kawhi


He gives me pause. He couldnt communicate with the SA front office. Something is wrong with him upstairs maybe.


Yeah. But he can **** play, man.


Kawhi's a Southern California guy through and through. Lakers or Clips.
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Post#356 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:15 am

mpharris36 wrote:
prophet_of_rage wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
i said somewhere around the fan base not being that smart...

that doesn't mean that everyone that is a knicks fan is dumb

i didn't know I had to break that down for you....
Fan base not being that smart isn't some of the fan base being that smart. I know you meant to exclude yourself, but you didn't.

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oh well I guess we are just stuck together...


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Post#357 » by Ray Williams » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:35 am

Jose7 wrote:This team is 9-26. The development of Frank,
Knox, dot, Mitch, trier should be the only spotlights of this team. Flat thinks we’re stupid? Developing trey Burke who’s marry Collins like April is not what we give a fucc about. Watching Tim jr play 35 minutes a game looking like a cadaver on a string every defensive possession is not what the fucc basketball is. Mudiay situation is whatever. The perception is that he’s playing well— but we all know what he really is and he’ll never lead any team to winning.

Your one guy who hangs his hat on defense and team play can’t sniff the court because his shot ain’t falling consistently..so the approach is to bench him for guys shooting worse, turning the ball over more and playing some of the worst defense in mordern basketball..what a coach. He’s clueless..his yes men staff too.


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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#358 » by newyorker4ever » Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:12 pm

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Thugger HBC wrote:He's gotten his career highs...this year. He has regressed, but it's clearly mental. G-League aint helping with that, sorry it wont.


i mean we both aren't in his head so we don't know for sure. I honestly looking for ways to see how we can fix the issue. I'm open to any ideas...



It might take a change of scenery for him which would suck for us if we traded him and that's exactly what it was and he shows himself to be what we're all hoping for him and the return we get for him isn't gonna be all that great for us.
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Post#359 » by newyorker4ever » Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:25 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Dumping solid future role players for Kemba Walker or Kyrie Ambulance Case Irving is not really a good thing. KD or AD are really the only ones to clear the decks for.


Also Kawhi


He gives me pause. He couldnt communicate with the SA front office. Something is wrong with him upstairs maybe.



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Post#360 » by mpharris36 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:32 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:He's gotten his career highs...this year. He has regressed, but it's clearly mental. G-League aint helping with that, sorry it wont.


i mean we both aren't in his head so we don't know for sure. I honestly looking for ways to see how we can fix the issue. I'm open to any ideas...



It might take a change of scenery for him which would suck for us if we traded him and that's exactly what it was and he shows himself to be what we're all hoping for him and the return we get for him isn't gonna be all that great for us.


I honestly think that would be an extreme measure. He has had really good games here its just a matter of consistency and believing he can do it game in and game out. That first year with KP he was helping close out games...he has the ability.
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