T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #9!

orlando_joe · Post #21 » by **orlando_joe** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:35 am

hayward
love
love does need to be nom he is worst contract then any other on list now

orlando_joe · Post #22 » by **orlando_joe** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:45 am

bondom34 wrote:Since he was already voted, just figured I'd point out that if people are this low on Love after an injury and Blake Griffin is owed more money and just finally got healthy and has historically been a worse player I really don't get it. 6 months of health shouldn't totally flip my view on someone.

love is yr older and contract yr longer..plus missing this much time after 30 yrs old can be problem not sure he comes back same most that age dont...like to see him traded in 2 yrs ..you don't think it would cost cavs? really?okc give something for him...lol

Eskobar13 · Post #23 » by **Eskobar13** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:46 pm

Vote Mozgov
Nominate Crabbe

Post #24 » by **bondom34** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:01 pm

orlando_joe wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Since he was already voted, just figured I'd point out that if people are this low on Love after an injury and Blake Griffin is owed more money and just finally got healthy and has historically been a worse player I really don't get it. 6 months of health shouldn't totally flip my view on someone.

love is yr older and contract yr longer..plus missing this much time after 30 yrs old can be problem not sure he comes back same most that age dont...like to see him traded in 2 yrs ..you don't think it would cost cavs? really?okc give something for him...lol

I'd give something if they had anything to match contracts that made sense. I don't think his value is substantially lower than Griffin's. Maybe lower, not that much that one's bottom 10 and the other not close.

brackdan70 · Post #25 » by **brackdan70** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:07 pm

Vote Waiters

LloydFree · Post #26 » by **LloydFree** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:33 pm

I'd bet Thousands of dollars it would be much easier for Miami to move James Johnson, than Boston to move Gordon Hayward.

Dr Positivity · Post #27 » by **Dr Positivity** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:38 pm

orlando_joe wrote:hayward
love
love does need to be nom he is worst contract then any other on list now

Love already got voted in

BowlRips · Post #28 » by **BowlRips** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:43 pm

Vote Hayward

jbent87 · Post #29 » by **jbent87** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:58 pm

Hayward

Waiters

alessandrux · Post #30 » by **alessandrux** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:15 pm

LloydFree wrote:I'd bet Thousands of dollars it would be much easier for Miami to move James Johnson, than Boston to move Gordon Hayward.

I don't have any dollars to bet (and even less so thousands of it), but I am sure that the majority disagrees with you (I strongly do).
I think Miami would be thrilled if you would offer them that deal (Hayward for Johnson) and they would take it in a second.

babyjax13 · Post #31 » by **babyjax13** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:08 pm

orlando_joe wrote:hayward
love
love does need to be nom he is worst contract then any other on list now

He's been voted on the list, sorry, should have been more specific.

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #32 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:19 pm

Vote: Hayward
Nominate: Crabbe

dorkestra · Post #33 » by **dorkestra** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:29 pm

Vote Hayward
Nominate Patty Mills (why am I the only one who keeps nominating Patty?)

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #34 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:53 pm

alessandrux wrote:
LloydFree wrote:I'd bet Thousands of dollars it would be much easier for Miami to move James Johnson, than Boston to move Gordon Hayward.

I don't have any dollars to bet (and even less so thousands of it), but I am sure that the majority disagrees with you (I strongly do).
I think Miami would be thrilled if you would offer them that deal (Hayward for Johnson) and they would take it in a second.

You're so wrong dude.

45m vs. over 90m

Hayward averaging 10/5/3 PER 14

Johnson averaging 8/3/2 in almost 10 minutes less than Hayward PER 12

You're literally solely banking on Hayward returning to form.

caliban · Post #35 » by **caliban** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:21 pm

Nominate. Just want to make sure Fournier is mentioned somewhere.

Vote: Hayward

blind prophet · Post #36 » by **blind prophet** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:45 pm

Waiters

mg · Post #37 » by mg » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:09 pm

Hayward (because of the 3rd year PO)
Crabbe

Post #38 » by **bondom34** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:12 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
alessandrux wrote:
LloydFree wrote:I'd bet Thousands of dollars it would be much easier for Miami to move James Johnson, than Boston to move Gordon Hayward.

I don't have any dollars to bet (and even less so thousands of it), but I am sure that the majority disagrees with you (I strongly do).
I think Miami would be thrilled if you would offer them that deal (Hayward for Johnson) and they would take it in a second.

You're so wrong dude.

45m vs. over 90m

Hayward averaging 10/5/3 PER 14

Johnson averaging 8/3/2 in almost 10 minutes less than Hayward PER 12

You're literally solely banking on Hayward returning to form.

I'm guessing you forget what Paul George looked like when he got hurt, and wouldn't pay him a max contract after the fact either? Because there's a reason Hayward hasn't put up numbers. There's a different reason for JJ.

dorkestra · Post #39 » by **dorkestra** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:15 pm

2018/19 - $11,571,429
2019/20 - $12,428,571
2020/21 - $13,285,714

This is Patty Mills remaining contract. He is thirty years old now. His VORP is just over zero, his PER is 12. Averaging 8.9 points and 2.8 on a TS of 56%

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #40 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:09 pm

bondom34 wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
alessandrux wrote:

I don't have any dollars to bet (and even less so thousands of it), but I am sure that the majority disagrees with you (I strongly do).
I think Miami would be thrilled if you would offer them that deal (Hayward for Johnson) and they would take it in a second.

You're so wrong dude.

45m vs. over 90m

Hayward averaging 10/5/3 PER 14

Johnson averaging 8/3/2 in almost 10 minutes less than Hayward PER 12

You're literally solely banking on Hayward returning to form.

I'm guessing you forget what Paul George looked like when he got hurt, and wouldn't pay him a max contract after the fact either? Because there's a reason Hayward hasn't put up numbers. There's a different reason for JJ.

I'm confused to the point you're attempting to make.

I could care less the reason why a player is under-performing and the argument here isn't whos sub-par performance is most justifiable. The argument and question at hand is who has less trade value and the truth of the matter Hayward is a shell of himself and is owed 90m dollars. Johnson is indeed a bad contract, but not nearly as terrible as Hayward and would be a lot easier to move imo.