2019 NBA draft

Patsfan1081 · Post #241 » by **Patsfan1081** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:04 am

Duke4life831 wrote:With Cam probably falling in this draft, he maybe available with that Sac pick if it ends up around 9-11. He has a lot of red flags about his game and needs a lot of work. But I can see him being a really good fit for you guys.

He def seems like a Ainge guy and prob wouldn't need a high usage. I think it would depend if Brown is still on the roster going into the draft, I dont like the two together. I also like Culver, Johnson, and King, but none of them have the potential defensively that Reddish has.

jcappy · Post #242 » by **jcappy** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:31 am

The draft will have a lot of freshmen, many "professional" upper classmen, European and other international players. injured players (some 18-19 y.o.)... many from each category will drop in the draft just as Williams did. It's just a matter reading their upside in the case of the youngest players, or usefulness to our current team in the case of the older. This draft will spark a lot of board interest, if nothing else.

Curmudgeon · Post #243 » by **Curmudgeon** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:58 am

Unless Ainge is able to combine picks to move up, the Celtics will not have a pick in the top 10. Also, absent a trade, Ainge will have more picks than he has roster spots for those picks. It's too bad that LeBron got hurt just before the Lakers are playing the Kings twice.

The guys projected to go from 11-60 are just names to me now, except for Daniel Gafford and Killian Tillie, both of whom flirted with coming out last year. Tillie is on the shelf now after surgery to repair a stress fracture-- not a good sign, but maybe he will slip because of it.

No one is picking Ky Bowman to get drafted, but he's a pretty good guard. If Van Vleet can make it in the NBA, so might Bowman.

Patsfan1081 · Post #244 » by **Patsfan1081** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:40 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Unless Ainge is able to combine picks to move up, the Celtics will not have a pick in the top 10. Also, absent a trade, Ainge will have more picks than he has roster spots for those picks. It's too bad that LeBron got hurt just before the Lakers are playing the Kings twice.

The guys projected to go from 11-60 are just names to me now, except for Daniel Gafford and Killian Tillie, both of whom flirted with coming out last year. Tillie is on the shelf now after surgery to repair a stress fracture-- not a good sign, but maybe he will slip because of it.

No one is picking Ky Bowman to get drafted, but he's a pretty good guard. If Van Vleet can make it in the NBA, so might Bowman.

I think it's to early to say this. At the moment both the Kings and Grizz or lottery teams separates by the seventh spot by what, three games? A lot can happen by the end of the year. That being said at this moment after Zion and Barrett nothing seems set in stone so who knows how difficult it would be to move spots. I'm not big on Gafford after watching him get ragdolled by Bassey, who will be the second youngest player in the draft. Tillie could be a good get though depending on how far he slips, his shot just looks so smooth.

Curmudgeon · Post #245 » by **Curmudgeon** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:38 am

I'm not big on Gafford. I just know something about him because I watched some film last year. I'm not particularly high on Tillie either, but at least he can shoot.

darylbe · Post #246 » by **darylbe** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:18 pm

2019. finished our good picks. still don't have a big. still cant rebound for ****.

Mattv · Post #247 » by **Mattv** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:12 pm

darylbe wrote:2019. finished our good picks. still don't have a big. still cant rebound for ****.

Agreed I was just thinking how Celtic needs a guy like Steven Adams.Maybe a trade for him including Horford Willams and Celtics worst 1st for Adam's and Patterson makes sense.Adams is over paid but so is Horford plus if the Celtics get AD and Adam's down low would be incredible.

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Curmudgeon · Post #248 » by **Curmudgeon** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:05 am

They have a guy like Steven Adams. His name is Baynes. Alas, he has a broken hand.

darylbe · Post #249 » by **darylbe** » Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:34 am

Curmudgeon wrote:They have a guy like Steven Adams. His name is Baynes. Alas, he has a broken hand.

I love me some Baynes and I'd love to keep him year to year, but come on. We are talking a 15/10 pt/r per game. I know big money, but still.

AL $ comes off board as AD hits free agency, so that's good. Maybe rw3 advances quick.

reload141 · Post #250 » by **reload141** » Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:45 am

Baynes is injured. Horford is coming back from injury and they drafted a project shot blocking big.

Some of you want to trade our most important/2nd most important player for Adams? Come on now.

threrf23 · Post #251 » by **threrf23** » Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:06 am

Well, I want Charles Bassey in this draft. I presume his stock will rise come June, but it's possible he slips because he isn't viewed as a modern Center. nbadraft.net currently has us taking him at 13.

He might be the youngest player in the draft, he has a rep as a smart player and vocal defensive leader, and so far at Western Kentucky he's been putting up decent numbers against decent competition. Also, he never played basketball til the age of 12, background isn't necessarily far off from the Hakeems of the world.

Here are some highlights of him vs Daniel Gafford (he posted 21/9/5):

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darylbe · Post #252 » by **darylbe** » Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:48 pm

reload141 wrote:Baynes is injured. Horford is coming back from injury and they drafted a project shot blocking big.

Some of you want to trade our most important/2nd most important player for Adams? Come on now.

I wouldn't say trade for a player like that. It's just that we've seen ainge focus on drafting 6'8" SFs (except RW3) to play positionless ball. I would just like to see that focus on rebounding now.

Bleeding Green · Post #253 » by **Bleeding Green** » Thu Jan 3, 2019 7:13 pm

If the Kings lose like three games in a row, they could be the 10th pick with ease. Ditto Memphis. I'm pulling for 9-10-16 with Sac/Mem/LAC.

Post #254 » by **Duke4life831** » Thu Jan 3, 2019 7:48 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:If the Kings lose like three games in a row, they could be the 10th pick with ease. Ditto Memphis. I'm pulling for 9-10-16 with Sac/Mem/LAC.

Not the draft you want that in. Unless you use those picks to try and trade up.

Bleeding Green · Post #255 » by **Bleeding Green** » Thu Jan 3, 2019 8:04 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:If the Kings lose like three games in a row, they could be the 10th pick with ease. Ditto Memphis. I'm pulling for 9-10-16 with Sac/Mem/LAC.

Not the draft you want that in. Unless you use those picks to try and trade up.

Why, this draft looks fine to me. There are always quality players at 16, you just have to draft them.

Cornbread · Post #256 » by **Cornbread** » Thu Jan 3, 2019 8:13 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:If the Kings lose like three games in a row, they could be the 10th pick with ease. Ditto Memphis. I'm pulling for 9-10-16 with Sac/Mem/LAC.

Not the draft you want that in. Unless you use those picks to try and trade up.
Why, this draft looks fine to me. There are always quality players at 16, you just have to draft them.

This draft is atrocious. There will be a spattering of good players to come out of it, but this is the worst draft in several years. After the top few picks it’s worse than 2016. Heck it might be worse than 2013 after the top 2/3.

Really, really bad draft.

Post #257 » by **Duke4life831** » Thu Jan 3, 2019 8:13 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:If the Kings lose like three games in a row, they could be the 10th pick with ease. Ditto Memphis. I'm pulling for 9-10-16 with Sac/Mem/LAC.

Not the draft you want that in. Unless you use those picks to try and trade up.
Why, this draft looks fine to me. There are always quality players at 16, you just have to draft them.

This doesn't have the strongest lotto. Plus I don't think you guys can afford to pay 4 1st round picks. The value just doesn't make sense for you guys. You don't need 3-4 more guys that might make it as rotation players. You guys already have a stacked rotation (probably have 1-2 too many guys to begin with). You guys need another impact player. So that's why I assume those picks and a player will be used to try and trade up, or use those picks to trade for a player.

You guys loaded up in a weak draft before, the later picks got you Yabu and Zizic. I don't think Ainge wants to do that again.

Homerclease · Post #258 » by **Homerclease** » Thu Jan 3, 2019 8:18 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
Not the draft you want that in. Unless you use those picks to try and trade up.
Why, this draft looks fine to me. There are always quality players at 16, you just have to draft them.

This doesn't have the strongest lotto. Plus I don't think you guys can afford to pay 4 1st round picks. The value just doesn't make sense for you guys. You don't need 3-4 more guys that might make it as rotation players. You guys already have a stacked rotation (probably have 1-2 too many guys to begin with). You guys need another impact player. So that's why I assume those picks and a player will be used to try and trade up, or use those picks to trade for a player.

You guys loaded up in a weak draft before, the later picks got you Yabu and Zizic. I don't think Ainge wants to do that again.

Apples and oranges comparison, those two were drafted because we needed stash candidates to preserve our cap space for Kevin Durant. Not the case this time. Also, I think this draft gets crapped on far too much. I think it’s mucb better than a lot of people are leading on

Homerclease · Post #259 » by **Homerclease** » Thu Jan 3, 2019 8:22 pm

Cornbread wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
Not the draft you want that in. Unless you use those picks to try and trade up.
Why, this draft looks fine to me. There are always quality players at 16, you just have to draft them.

This draft is atrocious. There will be a spattering of good players to come out of it, but this is the worst draft in several years. After the top few picks it’s worse than 2016. Heck it might be worse than 2013 after the top 2/3.

Really, really bad draft.

Disagree strongly, I think the lotto is really good this year. Not as deep a draft as we’ve seen before but quite strong in the top half of the first round

Bleeding Green · Post #260 » by **Bleeding Green** » Thu Jan 3, 2019 8:33 pm

Cornbread wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
Not the draft you want that in. Unless you use those picks to try and trade up.
Why, this draft looks fine to me. There are always quality players at 16, you just have to draft them.

This draft is atrocious. There will be a spattering of good players to come out of it, but this is the worst draft in several years. After the top few picks it’s worse than 2016. Heck it might be worse than 2013 after the top 2/3.

Really, really bad draft.

2016 they got Yabu and Zicic and neither one came over immediately which was pretty useful for long-term roster construction. Zizic was used to acquire Kyrie and also looks like he'll have a career as a good backup C. Ainge could easily have drafted Siakam and Brogdon that year too and then it looks like an amazing draft. Jaylen Brown looks like a middling Top-3 pick and they got nothing from the second round, but that's pretty typical.

There are plenty of good players in this draft from my view, but who knows. But yeah, they could just trade all the picks and salary to get AD, too. Who knows, but I still like players in this draft and there are all-star level players drafted 9-16 every year, so just make good draft picks if you keep them.

Like always there are tons of ways the roster could shake out. They could lose Rozier/Morris/Baynes/Theis this offseason. Less likely they could also lose Kyrie. I don't necessarily want to add 4 rookies (draft someone like Luka Samanic and stash him), but there is certainly potential for there to be plenty of open spots on the roster and integrate two rookies like they've been doing the past few years. And if Horford/Hayward/Kyrie are all on the team on max deals you need to fill out the roster with cheap players. There exists some universe where Hayward/Kyrie/Brown/Tatum are all on max or near-max deals, if Brown develops even a modicum of feel for the game.

2013 draft was a fine draft, plenty of starting level players in the top 16. If you have a chance at CJ McCollum, Kelly OIynyk, Steven Adams and Giannis in that range, you call that a bad draft?