Why Would FAs Go To Knicks over Nets?

[Capn'O]

KP is a draw. At press time he has been the best young prospect on either team. Knox may be one as well.

I don't think either team has high prospects for this years FA crop but that's the main basketball reason.

What if Nets manage to make the playoffs do you think that could sway some players? Also Porzingis's health kind of scares me. Not cause of this particular injury but because of guys his size and more importantly his frame.

It would. Also, I think the general stability of the Nets' coaching and front office could be viewed as favorable. Knicks situation might be more stable now than it has been but there's still a lot of "show me" that some players may want to see. There are reasons to be drawn to the Nets but that wasn't the question.

[LAL]

What prestige?
They are losing-est franchise this millennium and haven't won a title in 40+ years.

Is it just MSG?

Location, branding, history, fanbase, etc. Neither franchise is particularly good, but given the two choices it isn't hard to see why general sentiment would favor the Knicks. The Nets are the little brother/step-sibling of New York, that's just the way it is.

Which is why they have had such great success with free agents? And on the court?

I'd take Nets free agents as of late over anyone NY has signed.

I’m just telling you why the Knicks are perceived to be a better FA spot than the Nets. Neither has done well in FA because both are pretty bad franchises overall.

Nets vs Knicks as a FA destination is kind of a rich man’s version of Detroit vs Cleveland. Both aren’t very good, but Detroit has some things going for it that Cleveland doesn’t.

[bootsythornton]

Nets have a great management team, but lets face it, its a pretty below average roster

[rcc8884]

No idea, the traffic sucks

[JordansBulls]

With the Irving/Butler/KD talk you always hear about the Knicks but why not the Nets? I get the Knicks have Porzingis but outside of that wouldn't the Nets be the better option especially with the foundation they've built from a coaching and roster standpoint. I think more than any other team so far the Nets have been the surprise of the year. Also even with the whole Billy King debacle you could make an argument that the Nets have been the (slightly)better of the two franchises for the past 20 years.

They would rather be in Manhattan over Brooklyn.

[Paradise]

Prestige.

But neither franchise is getting anything, so it’s a moot point.

What prestige?
They are losing-est franchise this millennium and haven't won a title in 40+ years.

Is it just MSG?

Pretty much. If I'm going to be in purgatory, give me MSG. Easily the most prestigious venue in north America. Also Knicks have a higher ceiling of exposure and excitement if they ever get good. Having all of New York behind you would be pretty cool. Only downside is the NY media.

That’s actually inaccurate. The entire city was behind the Nets during the playoffs in 2012-2015. Especially after blowing out Miami at home in Game 3.

The Nets are extremely international so it’s a moot point. It’s a media bias in there, there’s more money to be made complaining about the Knicks but the only thing the Knicks have over the Nets is years of establishment in NY and the ‘history’ of moments at MSG. The Nets during the Deron era still were Top 5 valued franchise, Top 5 revenue, and lead the city in merchandise sales.

The Nets with a KD or Kyrie become the hottest ticket in sports. Period. Everyone knows Brooklyn is still a major market and I’d know because it’s extremely hard to live out here now as it’s become a major tourist and transplant attraction.

The NBA Draft is a tradition now upheld in Brooklyn since 2012 after the last decade in MSG.

Things change over time.

[kobe_vs_jordan]

Knicks fanbase seems much larger. MSG is a huge draw. Whats nets real advantage? Coaching and Stability? Stars historically pick their coaches. If Kyrie is one of the two max players then KP makes more sense than playing with Dwindie. So do nets really have a roster and coaching advantage?

[Dez]

KP is a draw. At press time he has been the best young prospect on either team. Knox may be one as well.

I don't think either team has high prospects for this years FA crop but that's the main basketball reason.

What evidence supports this?

[BowlRips]

What prestige?
They are losing-est franchise this millennium and haven't won a title in 40+ years.

Is it just MSG?

Pretty much. If I'm going to be in purgatory, give me MSG. Easily the most prestigious venue in north America. Also Knicks have a higher ceiling of exposure and excitement if they ever get good. Having all of New York behind you would be pretty cool. Only downside is the NY media.

That’s actually inaccurate. The entire city was behind the Nets during the playoffs in 2012-2015. Especially after blowing out Miami at home in Game 3.

The Nets are extremely international so it’s a moot point. It’s a media bias in there, there’s more money to be made complaining about the Knicks but the only thing the Knicks have over the Nets is years of establishment in NY and the ‘history’ of moments at MSG. The Nets during the Deron era still were Top 5 valued franchise, Top 5 revenue, and lead the city in merchandise sales.

The Nets with a KD or Kyrie become the hottest ticket in sports. Period. Everyone knows Brooklyn is still a major market and I’d know because it’s extremely hard to live out here now as it’s become a major tourist and transplant attraction.

The NBA Draft is a tradition now upheld in Brooklyn since 2012 after the last decade in MSG.

Things change over time.

Lol which city?
I live in Brooklyn. Lived here my whole life. Except for a few losers no body cared

[Trader_Joe]

With the Irving/Butler/KD talk you always hear about the Knicks but why not the Nets? I get the Knicks have Porzingis but outside of that wouldn't the Nets be the better option especially with the foundation they've built from a coaching and roster standpoint. I think more than any other team so far the Nets have been the surprise of the year. Also even with the whole Billy King debacle you could make an argument that the Nets have been the (slightly)better of the two franchises for the past 20 years.

They would rather be in Manhattan over Brooklyn.

Didn't realize Net players couldn't live in Manhattan...oh wait they have.

[dakomish23]

Kp is better than any Nets player by a massive margin. Though even if you sign with the Nets you still get to play Knicks games in front of a Knicks home crowd even in Barclays.

He hasn't played game in ages and no one knows when he's coming back. He was also pretty poor outside of the first 11 games or so last year and has been critical of the Knicks. Pretty sure he has to return this year and be good, before any FA factors a fellow FA into their decision.

Even then he’s still the best draw as a teammate on either team

[Capn'O]

KP is a draw. At press time he has been the best young prospect on either team. Knox may be one as well.

I don't think either team has high prospects for this years FA crop but that's the main basketball reason.

What evidence supports this?

You've gotta be Joakim?

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22154776/new-york-knicks-forward-kristaps-porzingis-infers-players-vote-suggests-starter-2018-nba-all-star-game

NBA players voted Knicks forward Kristaps Porzingis as an All-Star starter over Philadelphia's Joel Embiid, but Embiid won the overall vote with support from fans and media.

A) He was an All Star
B) Players frequently laud praise on him

It's really not tough to see he's well regarded around the league. Also, watch him. He's a rim protector and a spacer. Which means that he'd pair well with just about any elite guard or wing.

I mean - speculate all you want about his injury but the guy is a prime time player in the league.

[Dez]

KP is a draw. At press time he has been the best young prospect on either team. Knox may be one as well.

I don't think either team has high prospects for this years FA crop but that's the main basketball reason.

What evidence supports this?

You've gotta be Joakim?

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22154776/new-york-knicks-forward-kristaps-porzingis-infers-players-vote-suggests-starter-2018-nba-all-star-game

NBA players voted Knicks forward Kristaps Porzingis as an All-Star starter over Philadelphia's Joel Embiid, but Embiid won the overall vote with support from fans and media.

So players voting him into a meaningless ASG makes him a draw?

I would have thought players coming to New York would make him a draw but I guess not.

[Paradise]

Pretty much. If I'm going to be in purgatory, give me MSG. Easily the most prestigious venue in north America. Also Knicks have a higher ceiling of exposure and excitement if they ever get good. Having all of New York behind you would be pretty cool. Only downside is the NY media.

That’s actually inaccurate. The entire city was behind the Nets during the playoffs in 2012-2015. Especially after blowing out Miami at home in Game 3.

The Nets are extremely international so it’s a moot point. It’s a media bias in there, there’s more money to be made complaining about the Knicks but the only thing the Knicks have over the Nets is years of establishment in NY and the ‘history’ of moments at MSG. The Nets during the Deron era still were Top 5 valued franchise, Top 5 revenue, and lead the city in merchandise sales.

The Nets with a KD or Kyrie become the hottest ticket in sports. Period. Everyone knows Brooklyn is still a major market and I’d know because it’s extremely hard to live out here now as it’s become a major tourist and transplant attraction.

The NBA Draft is a tradition now upheld in Brooklyn since 2012 after the last decade in MSG.

Things change over time.

Lol which city?
I live in Brooklyn. Lived here my whole life. Except for a few losers no body cared

Funny. I lived here my whole life (Bed Stuy, Flatbush, Canarsie, East NY) and somehow was there when the buzz was going throughout the playoffs during that time.

The newspapers were Pierce on the front page and the bars I visited were packed with Heat and Nets and casual fans going at it. Every game was sold out as it should be. There was a thought the Nets could push it to 6 or 7.

I also throughly enjoyed ESPN NY ripping Deron Williams for his 0 point performance. He crumbled due to the playoff coverage that season and his ‘NY spotlight’ finished him that year including Kobe mentioning he’d never have 0 points on 5 shots.

So, I’m glad you identified the fact those who did care were ‘losers’ it proves my point about media bias, pal. Contradicting points.

I don’t recall anyone caring about that 17 win Knick team led by Sweet Lou Adumson either. I do recall the constant paper bags over Knick fans heads throughout the year. Was that more memorable than the Nets playoff run? Or Game 7 vs Toronto?

Is Jason Kidd sitting in the HOF for his magical 54 win run with the New York Knicks?

[Capn'O]

What evidence supports this?

You've gotta be Joakim?

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22154776/new-york-knicks-forward-kristaps-porzingis-infers-players-vote-suggests-starter-2018-nba-all-star-game

NBA players voted Knicks forward Kristaps Porzingis as an All-Star starter over Philadelphia's Joel Embiid, but Embiid won the overall vote with support from fans and media.

So players voting him into a meaningless ASG makes him a draw?

I would have thought players coming to New York would make him a draw but I guess not.

I don't even know how to respond to this. If you have to ask, you'll never know.

Ok. I'll bite. Yes. Other players thinking he's really good does in fact make him a draw.

[BowlRips]

That’s actually inaccurate. The entire city was behind the Nets during the playoffs in 2012-2015. Especially after blowing out Miami at home in Game 3.

The Nets are extremely international so it’s a moot point. It’s a media bias in there, there’s more money to be made complaining about the Knicks but the only thing the Knicks have over the Nets is years of establishment in NY and the ‘history’ of moments at MSG. The Nets during the Deron era still were Top 5 valued franchise, Top 5 revenue, and lead the city in merchandise sales.

The Nets with a KD or Kyrie become the hottest ticket in sports. Period. Everyone knows Brooklyn is still a major market and I’d know because it’s extremely hard to live out here now as it’s become a major tourist and transplant attraction.

The NBA Draft is a tradition now upheld in Brooklyn since 2012 after the last decade in MSG.

Things change over time.

Lol which city?
I live in Brooklyn. Lived here my whole life. Except for a few losers no body cared

Funny. I lived here my whole life (Bed Stuy, Flatbush, Canarsie, East NY) and somehow was there when the buzz was going throughout the playoffs during that time.

The newspapers were Pierce on the front page and the bars I visited were packed with Heat and Nets and casual fans going at it. Every game was sold out as it should be. There was a thought the Nets could push it to 6 or 7.

I also throughly enjoyed ESPN NY ripping Deron Williams for his 0 point performance. He crumbled due to the playoff coverage that season and his ‘NY spotlight’ finished him that year including Kobe mentioning he’d never have 0 points on 5 shots.

So, I’m glad you identified the fact those who did care were ‘losers’ it proves my point about media bias, pal. Contradicting points.

I don’t recall anyone caring about that 17 win Knick team led by Sweet Lou Adumson either. I do recall the constant paper bags over Knick fans heads throughout the year. Was that more memorable than the Nets playoff run? Or Game 7 vs Toronto?

Is Jason Kidd sitting in the HOF for his magical 54 win run with the New York Knicks?

Flatbush 28 years.
I get it your a Nets fan its fine. But you have to admit that probably 9/10 brooklynites are Knicks fans over Nets fan.

[the7boss]

If I were a NBA superstar free agent, I would really consider the Knicks. It's such a big challenge to get them a ring, you would be automatically a legend if you do. With KP healthy and a allstar wing (Butler or Leonard), they are not that far in the East.

Let's say they trade Ntilikina + Knox to the Hornets for Kemba

Kemba
Hardaway Jr
Butler
Porzingis
Kanter/Robinson

That's a contender. And they'll have a high pick this year.

[Dez]

You've gotta be Joakim?

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22154776/new-york-knicks-forward-kristaps-porzingis-infers-players-vote-suggests-starter-2018-nba-all-star-game

So players voting him into a meaningless ASG makes him a draw?

I would have thought players coming to New York would make him a draw but I guess not.

I don't even know how to respond to this. If you have to ask, you'll never know.

Ok. I'll bite. Yes. Other players thinking he's really good does in fact make him a draw.

Then why hasn't anyone gone to play with him in New York yet?

[Capn'O]

So players voting him into a meaningless ASG makes him a draw?

I would have thought players coming to New York would make him a draw but I guess not.

I don't even know how to respond to this. If you have to ask, you'll never know.

Ok. I'll bite. Yes. Other players thinking he's really good does in fact make him a draw.

Then why hasn't anyone gone to play with him in New York yet?

Ok. Let's back things way up. Do you know that the NBA has a salary cap? That is, each team a set amount of salary money that, once met/exceeded by a team's salary commitments, a team cannot offer significant money to free agents?

[Duke4life831]

Honestly I think its pretty simple, its the NY in front of the name. The Knicks are NY's basketball team. They play in the Mecca. Honestly its just NY. I mean David Lee had a top 10-15 selling jersey one year. If you are good for a NY team, youre going to get a ton of press, thats just how it goes. It also has the opposite effect where if you suck you get a ton more of hate.

Also I will say that the Knicks has the best building block out of the two with KP. Best case scenario for NY is KP sits out all year, they tank and get Zion. Then guess what, you got two really hyped young prospects that neither really are truly ball dominant players. I wouldnt be shocked if they land Zion, they get a big name FA this year. But even if they dont land one this summer, if Zion and KP show good promise next year, I think NY would then become a major hot spot for a big free agent.

But that is a big what if. But most things that turn around franchises start from getting a big what if.