GT: Nets @ Hornets

[MrDollarBills]

I think Kenny deserves a little bit of the blame tonight. I thought he stuck with the zone too long. It works in stretches here and there but if you just keep spamming it, the other team will eventually figure it out. Also thought he went away from the hot hand philosophy which we're used to seeing. Din, Joe, and Dudley just didn't have it tonight. Would've liked to see Ed, Shabazz, and someone else with length like Rodi or RHJ close it out with DLO + DMC

Yeah I think he did too. The Hornets had time to scout that zone for exploits and they did it.

I would have liked to see the ball being forced out of the backcourt's hands on defense with some traps and force anyone outside of Walker/Parker beat us but it is what it is.

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[kamaze]

No one we put on him stopped him.

wHAT'S YOUR POINT? Criticism was warranted in that case unless you're ok with losing...

My point was Parker took over the game and no one who guarded him stopped him. Lol

Also if you blame Dlo for this game I'm not going to bother talking to you.

Are you serious that's what you get from my comment? You're a little sensitive if players can't be criticized for their defense.

[MrDollarBills]

It is what It is. Spencer will see those minutes especially after being paid. I would’ve opted to rest him for tomorrow and kept going with Shabazz.

Napier had it going. Not sure I understand why Kenny did that but whatever, this game was lost on defense. The Nets got burned across the board by the Hornets.

Dinwiddie and Harris had no business getting back into the game.

yeah they didn't have it tonight

if you're going to preach ride the hot hand, don't make it a case by case basis because Dinwiddie gave the team nothing and still played when Napier was giving it to the Hornets.

[kamaze]

Good defense DLo..nvm the next play TP goes by him for AND1

No one we put on him stopped him.

don't let the facts get in the way of his agenda.

Russell basically carried this team on his back along with Napier/Davis/Carroll but its entirely his fault we lost.

Clearly they lacked good perimeter defense but you don't want to acknowledge that instead you'd rather pretend I'm picking on Dlo when the problem is perimeter defense they could use some. Obviously DLo is part of that.

[kamaze]

No one we put on him stopped him.

wHAT'S YOUR POINT? Criticism was warranted in that case unless you're ok with losing...

Why is Russell being singled out? He wasn't the only one getting cooked out there and frankly this game would have been a lot worse without his efforts.

See, this is the **** I'm talking about.

Would you knock it off he had good defense on one play and before I submitted the comment gave up the ANd1 that's what I was commenting on just like we comment on plays throughout the game.

[kamaze]

It is what It is. Spencer will see those minutes especially after being paid. I would’ve opted to rest him for tomorrow and kept going with Shabazz.

Napier had it going. Not sure I understand why Kenny did that but whatever, this game was lost on defense. The Nets got burned across the board by the Hornets.

Dinwiddie and Harris had no business getting back into the game.

Crabbe and Graham are good defenders they missed them tonight.

[Papi_swav]

Another double double giving up by Allen, you're fired .

[LKIRNets]

Dinwiddie was straight up hot garbage tonight.

Russell was hot and so was Napier.

I don't care why Dinwiddie was playing the 4th but no f'n coach puts him back in the game over Napier tonight or Russell.

Move on. We weak at dat 4. I hope we not solving it wit Crabbe.

[Prokorov]

Good defense DLo..nvm the next play TP goes by him for AND1

No one we put on him stopped him.

wHAT'S YOUR POINT? Criticism was warranted in that case unless you're ok with losing...

the point is you are a mental midget and giant troll.

[Prokorov]

So dinwiddie has 3 points and still closing out the game? Could never be D-Lo.

It is what It is. Spencer will see those minutes especially after being paid. I would’ve opted to rest him for tomorrow and kept going with Shabazz.

Napier had it going. Not sure I understand why Kenny did that but whatever, this game was lost on defense. The Nets got burned across the board by the Hornets.

i disagree. we gave up 100 points on 114 possessions. that is actually solid defense especially considering they are 8th in the NBA in pace adjusted scoring.

We scored 87 points. we shot 39% from the field and 4-27 from three (14%), that is terrible offense. Dlo carried us and a nice spurt by Napier but we lost this game because no one but russell could score. we got nothing from dinwiddie, RHJ, Kurucs, Allen, or Harris.

[Prokorov]

I think Kenny deserves a little bit of the blame tonight. I thought he stuck with the zone too long. It works in stretches here and there but if you just keep spamming it, the other team will eventually figure it out. Also thought he went away from the hot hand philosophy which we're used to seeing. Din, Joe, and Dudley just didn't have it tonight. Would've liked to see Ed, Shabazz, and someone else with length like Rodi or RHJ close it out with DLO + DMC

Yeah I think he did too. The Hornets had time to scout that zone for exploits and they did it.

I would have liked to see the ball being forced out of the backcourt's hands on defense with some traps and force anyone outside of Walker/Parker beat us but it is what it is.

We were worse (alot worse actually) in man then zone tonight and we actually played a really good game defensively. we held them to just 41% shooting and only 100 points on 114 possesions. And held them to just 67 points on 34% shooting after the 1st quarter. really outside of that 26-4 start, they hornets did very little offensively.

if we played even halfway decent on offense we win this game

[Prokorov]

wHAT'S YOUR POINT? Criticism was warranted in that case unless you're ok with losing...

My point was Parker took over the game and no one who guarded him stopped him. Lol

Also if you blame Dlo for this game I'm not going to bother talking to you.

Are you serious that's what you get from my comment? You're a little sensitive if players can't be criticized for their defense.

players didnt get criticized. one player got criticized. singular. because you are a hater who is not a nets fan.

[Prokorov]

No one we put on him stopped him.

don't let the facts get in the way of his agenda.

Russell basically carried this team on his back along with Napier/Davis/Carroll but its entirely his fault we lost.

Clearly they lacked good perimeter defense but you don't want to acknowledge that instead you'd rather pretend I'm picking on Dlo when the problem is perimeter defense they could use some. Obviously DLo is part of that.

you named Russell. you named 0 other nets. you singled him out.

[gigantes]

Welp, last night I was away singing karaoke and entertaining some relatives from out of country. What did I miss? Hmm, looking at the box...

How come Lumberjack Joe only took one three? And why did Rondae take three in only 18 mins!?

Did Fro and RHJ get the hook this game for any particular reason?

Were the Jordanaires doing something in particular to shut down our offense, because it looks like our shooting was pretty miserable. Dins in particular only took seven shots... someone who can get a shot off absolutely whenever he wants to. oO

Anyway, this game makes me feel kinda warm and fuzzy, the fact that we got'em on Wednesday. *phew*

[SpeedyG]

Not sure what Kenny could have done. I think he stuck too long with the zone, but they killed us in man also. I actually thought Spencer did the best job 1-on-1 vs. Kemba defensively, especially denying him the ball, but we had no answer for Zeller (inside or when he sets screens to free up Kemba). Offensively though, he was just out of it. He didn't even really look to attack and was content playing hot potato with the ball.

I didn't like how the refs called this game either, as it seemed the Hornets were allowed to play more physical than us. That "homecooking" from the previous game? That is more deserved in this game.

Russell, I don't want to really criticize him in a game where he was the only one making (some) of his shots, but I suppose I'll just have to accept that I'll never be a fan of his game. No point in keeping harping on it.

Really the difference is that Kemba (like last game) played like the superstar that he is. I know Parker killed us late and he made some vintage TP shots, but he really was freed up because of the attention to Walker.

Was concerned when Kenny took Napier out (fatigue? rotation? Kenny being Kenny?), as he was pretty much solely responsible for bringing us back. The dribble penetration that we normally got from Spencer, we got from Napier, and Napier alone. And sure enough, as soon as he went out, our game went back in the toilet.

Kurucs had a typical rookie game. But, I will say, I thought he helped in that line-up as a Center. Not sure why didn't Kenny stick with it longer (though Davis also played well). As noted in one of the other threads, he needs to show he can drive left. Charlotte defended his right hand dribble, and really neutralized him and relegated him into a strictly outside shooting/garbage man player.

We didn't shoot well...at all. It was a gutsy effort just to keep up with them, but when you shoot that bad and you can't get to the hole, and not able to stop the other team? Yeah, you're not going to win most nights, especially on the road.

I thought their coaching staff did a better job adjusting and really bothered our offensive sets, and knew how to exploit the stuff we were successful in the previous game. And their players executed for the most part.

[MrDollarBills]

It is what It is. Spencer will see those minutes especially after being paid. I would’ve opted to rest him for tomorrow and kept going with Shabazz.

Napier had it going. Not sure I understand why Kenny did that but whatever, this game was lost on defense. The Nets got burned across the board by the Hornets.

i disagree. we gave up 100 points on 114 possessions. that is actually solid defense especially considering they are 8th in the NBA in pace adjusted scoring.

We scored 87 points. we shot 39% from the field and 4-27 from three (14%), that is terrible offense. Dlo carried us and a nice spurt by Napier but we lost this game because no one but russell could score. we got nothing from dinwiddie, RHJ, Kurucs, Allen, or Harris.

okay I didn't know that. the beginning of the game compounded with the bad shooting made it look a lot worse in real time.

The game was lost really in the 1st quarter. giving up 33 points while limping to 17 points, most of them coming from Russell, was a backbreaker and we didn't play efficiently enough afterwards to overcome that.

Time to move on, we've got the Bucks today

[Prokorov]

Napier had it going. Not sure I understand why Kenny did that but whatever, this game was lost on defense. The Nets got burned across the board by the Hornets.

i disagree. we gave up 100 points on 114 possessions. that is actually solid defense especially considering they are 8th in the NBA in pace adjusted scoring.

We scored 87 points. we shot 39% from the field and 4-27 from three (14%), that is terrible offense. Dlo carried us and a nice spurt by Napier but we lost this game because no one but russell could score. we got nothing from dinwiddie, RHJ, Kurucs, Allen, or Harris.

okay I didn't know that. the beginning of the game compounded with the bad shooting made it look a lot worse in real time.

The game was lost really in the 1st quarter. giving up 33 points while limping to 17 points, most of them coming from Russell, was a backbreaker and we didn't play efficiently enough afterwards to overcome that.

Time to move on, we've got the Bucks today

The nets #1 priority on defense is less about giving up points and more about limiting efficient shots. they want less shots at the rim obtained via drive and less three pointers. teams were starting to kill us with thress off of high on ball screens. particularly kemba in game 1 was killing us on those. the zone completely eliminates that shot. it also puts allen between drivers and the basket more often. teams got some corner threes, but alot of that is also getting farmiliar with zone rotations

other then last night, which was our b squad, the zone has been pretty solid for us