For Porzingis to be a UFA in 2020, he can only make $4.5 mil next season

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For Porzingis to be a UFA in 2020, he can only make $4.5 mil next season 

Post#1 » by djsunyc » Thu Jan 3, 2019 6:20 pm

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Post#2 » by Capn'O » Thu Jan 3, 2019 6:28 pm

I hadn't. Interesting.

There were initially rumors that he was targeting an Xmas return. That got hushed up in a hurry and they've been pretty coy about his progress in returning. For him to give that up, you can pretty much pencil him in as a max extension for the Knicks.

Also - for those questioning his progress - there was a little kerfuffle between him and the team when Fizdale said he hadn't started running yet and he in fact had...
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Post#4 » by djsunyc » Thu Jan 3, 2019 6:30 pm

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2013/04/qualifying-offers-and-the-starter-criteria.html

The CBA describes a "starter" as either starting 41 games or playing 2,000 minutes in a season, and rewards players for meeting those criteria. If a player achieved one of those benchmarks in the season prior to his free agency, or averaged one of those benchmarks in the two seasons leading up to his free agency, his qualifying offer will be affected as follows:

A top-14 pick who does not meet the starter critera will receive a same qualifying offer equal to 120% of the amount applicable to the 15th overall pick.

A played picked between 10th and 30th who meets the starter criteria will receive a qualifying offer equal to 120% of the amount applicable to the ninth overall pick.

A second-round pick or undrafted player who meets the criteria will receive a qualifying offer equal to 100% of the amount applicable to the 21st overall pick.


granted that's from the previous CBA so not sure if it's changed.
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Post#5 » by RoyceDa59 » Thu Jan 3, 2019 6:30 pm

He wants out badly since the day he joined the Knicks he knows that in order to build a legacy you need to win, and in order to win you need the support of a well run organization. Knicks can’t provide him what he needs - and I expect him to team up with a superstar elsewhere.


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Post#6 » by meekrab » Thu Jan 3, 2019 6:31 pm

Yes, I'm familiar with how qualifying offers work.
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Post#7 » by Wallace_Wallace » Thu Jan 3, 2019 6:32 pm

Would not take that gamble if I was him. If Porzingis suffers another knee injury (not wishing it to happen), then no one would take that risk on him.
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Post#8 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Jan 3, 2019 6:34 pm

RoyceDa59 wrote:He wants out badly since the day he joined the Knicks he knows that in order to build a legacy you need to win, and in order to win you need the support of a well run organization. Knicks can’t provide him what he needs - and I expect him to team up with a superstar elsewhere.


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Post#9 » by Mickey8 » Thu Jan 3, 2019 6:35 pm

Thats too much money for a guy who didn't play a single game this season.
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Post#10 » by clyde21 » Thu Jan 3, 2019 6:36 pm

standard QO rules.

he'll take the max extension if it's offered.
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Post#11 » by Capn'O » Thu Jan 3, 2019 6:37 pm

RoyceDa59 wrote:He wants out badly since the day he joined the Knicks he knows that in order to build a legacy you need to win, and in order to win you need the support of a well run organization. Knicks can’t provide him what he needs - and I expect him to team up with a superstar elsewhere.


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That's an interesting conclusion to draw from him forfeiting potential $$$ towards the path to unrestricted free agency by not pushing for an earlier return date. This development makes him LESS likely to bail and suggests he's in on/with the Knicks' tank + free agency plan.
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Post#12 » by xdrta+ » Thu Jan 3, 2019 6:42 pm

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Porzingis is coming off the 4th year of his rookie scale contract, meaning his team can make a qualifying offer to make him a restricted free agent. Since he was drafted between 1-14 pick (#4), and does not meet the starter criteria this year, the QO can be no more than the amount the 15th pick would get (apparently $4.5MM). If he had met the starter criteria, the Knicks could offer him a maximum QO, 5yrs/8% raises, maximum salary ($27MM.) If he wants to be a UFA in 2020 he will have to take the ($4.5MM) QO.
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Post#13 » by Pablo Escobar » Thu Jan 3, 2019 6:44 pm

He's done anyway so they're maxing out damaged goods.
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Post#14 » by Rockice_24 » Thu Jan 3, 2019 8:10 pm

The only way for NY to keep him is to offer the full max which even though there are rumblings that he is unhappy he'd likely take it anyway. If they do that then it could backfire if he can't stay healthy basically crippling the Knicks for the next few years. It's almost a damned if you do damned if you don't situation.
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Post#15 » by DaddyCool19 » Thu Jan 3, 2019 8:18 pm

Wouldn't other teams be wary about offering him the max, if he sits out this year, or only plays a couple games on minute restriction?
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Post#16 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Jan 3, 2019 8:26 pm

DaddyCool19 wrote:Wouldn't other teams be wary about offering him the max, if he sits out this year, or only plays a couple games on minute restriction?



If he plays a few games on a minutes restriction it wont be much different than Zach Lavine, the Kings made an offer on him.
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Post#17 » by NBARocks » Thu Jan 3, 2019 8:33 pm

I'll be laughing my ass off if the Knicks don't offer him the QO.
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Post#18 » by xdrta+ » Thu Jan 3, 2019 8:50 pm

NBARocks wrote:I'll be laughing my ass off if the Knicks don't offer him the QO.


I'm sure he wouldn't mind. He would be an unrestricted FA.
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Post#19 » by Pelon chingon » Thu Jan 3, 2019 8:56 pm

He should do it. Small price to pay to get off the knicks or he'll regret it down the road.
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Post#20 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Thu Jan 3, 2019 9:01 pm

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