So, about the glut at C/PF

[Gooner]

I think he can get a little more than 3 years 24 million, I'm betting on $12 million with maximum declining for 3 or 4 years. I think they are a few teams that realize just how tough Thad is, he may not put up "Blake Griffin" numbers but then again neither does Blake when he plays against Thad Young.

I think Thad would be worth that money, but i'm not sure he'll get it, simply because today's obsession with 3 point shooting, and teams not having much cap space. Look at Julius Randle for example. He is kinda similar to Thad, left handed power forward, scores mostly inside, but he is a younger, more potent player than him. He only got about 18 mil for two years, because he is not a stretch 4. So that could be good for the Pacers, beacuese they won't have to overpay for Thad.

Pritchard is on record numerous times saying that Thad brings so much more than what you see in a box score though, and that the team really relies on him in a number of ways. So while I think your comparison is somewhat valid, I think Thad will most likely receive a larger contract than Randle based on those less quantifiable aspects of his game that Pritch has praised regularly.

My hope is that he'll sign a 3 or 4 year deal with the understanding that he'll be moving to the bench as soon as next season. Still getting 25-30 minutes most nights, and being a big part of the team. But his contract should reflect a reduced role going forward as the Myles + Domas train keeps rolling.

I agree, and as i said, Thad would be worth decent amount of money. But the thing is, in today's analytics era, those less quantifiable aspectes of the game aren't valued as much as before. Pacers are different, they play more controlled, old school type of basketball, they'll take the best shot available. But the other teams just want high volume three point shooting, so they need those stretch 4's. I don't think there is a team out there that would need or want Thad anywhere near as Pacers do, and that's a good thing. Guys like Mirotic or Marcus Morris will be more coveted than him, simply because they are younger, and they can shoot threes.

[boomershadow]

The three point shooting angle might be a bit overrated imo. Sure it's a shooting league, but that's definitely not the only aspect "most" GMs look at in a player. Thad is one of those guys that can guard anybody, and any team looking buff up their defense with a player that can guard everyone from Lebron to Kevin Love to Ben Simmons would do well to take a look at him.

Jabari Parker might have said that defense doesn't get anybody paid, but then he fell out of the rotation on his new team almost right away, so.

[Topofthekey]

Ok, so suppose we plug Domas in for Thad. And let's plug CoJo in for DC while we're at it. So basically what we're looking at is

On defense:
Elite/great defenders: Vic
Good/decent defenders: Domas, Myles, CoJo
Adequate/poor defenders: Bogie

On Offense:
Major scoring threat: Vic, Domas
Supplementary scoring: Myles, Bogie
Non scorer: CoJo

We're about 80-85% there; we just need one more legitimate scoring threat, and a bit of upgrade on defense. So let's dream a bit, let's say we trade for, say, Robert Covington & Spencer Dinwiddie, and plug them in for Bogie and CoJo. That'll give us

On defense:
Elite/great defenders: Vic, Covington
Good/decent defenders: Domas, Myles
Adequate/poor defenders: Dinwiddie

On Offense:
Major scoring threat: Vic, Domas, Dinwiddie
Supplementary scoring: Myles, Covington
Non scorer:

That's a starting lineup that I can see making the ECF regularly in the next 5 seasons

[Wizop]

now that we've played a few games without Turner, can we put the glut talk to bed?

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[Topofthekey]

Maybe?

(Still thinks having 3/4 of your best players -I counted Vic, Domas, Thad, Myles as the 4 best players- playing two positions isn't optimal, especially when the best among the 3 is coming off the bench)

[Scoot McGroot]

Maybe?

(Still thinks having 3/4 of your best players -I counted Vic, Domas, Thad, Myles as the 4 best players- playing two positions isn't optimal, especially when the best among the 3 is coming off the bench)

I wouldn't see it as an issue. There's 96 minutes among the 2 positions you're worried about. Split evenly, it's 32 minutes a night. That's not really a bad thing. Our only issue is not properly balancing the 3 so that they're pretty much playing all the minutes, and is why the whole issue with Nate not be willing to play Myles and Dom together.

[Wizop]

Maybe?

(Still thinks having 3/4 of your best players -I counted Vic, Domas, Thad, Myles as the 4 best players- playing two positions isn't optimal, especially when the best among the 3 is coming off the bench)

Sabonis scores and rebounds but Turner is best inside defender.