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[GEOLINK]

I see that the Hornets want to move Batum. Good luck with that! And I thought hardaway's deal was bad.

Batum Bridges for Kanter Lee

Yeah right

Seriously though - who the hell is gonna take Batum for Kaminsky??

Somehow I can see the Nets making this move to get a draft pick or another young player.

[Besart19]

Imagine if KP had a passing game like Jokic

Imagine if Jokic played Defense or wasn't afraid to block a shot.

Imagine if Knicks' fans actually liked their Players.

Imagine if people didn't treat their Team like NBA2K.

--Mags

Its easier for KP to add that weapon in his arsenal than for Jokic (aka Stat on defense) become a better defender. It was not a bashing at all, just a wishfull thinking that I think KP can achieve with a proper coaching... if Vonleh can get 5-6 assists at times, KP for sure can average those

[delvec19]

Let's go Lakers!
Let's go Cavs!
Let's go Bulls!
Let's go Hawks!
Let's go Suns!

[spree2kawhi]

That loss is on Kerr. Three blunders (terrible shots early in shot clock) in last minute of regulation while up six. Then puts maybe his best but shortest good defender on Harden for last shot in overtime...

[GONYK]

Rockets GM says argument could be made for James Harden to be called best offensive player ever

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25681961/houston-rockets-gm-daryl-morey-says-james-harden-best-offensive-player-all

This has to be a joke. He's not even the first player to do what he's doing.

And it's not like he ever does it when it really matters.

[magnumt]

Rockets GM says argument could be made for James Harden to be called best offensive player ever

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25681961/houston-rockets-gm-daryl-morey-says-james-harden-best-offensive-player-all

This has to be a joke. He's not even the first player to do what he's doing.

And it's not like he ever does it when it really matters.

Rockets GM forget Larry Bird for example.

--Mags

[Knicksfan1992]

Rockets GM says argument could be made for James Harden to be called best offensive player ever

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25681961/houston-rockets-gm-daryl-morey-says-james-harden-best-offensive-player-all

This has to be a joke. He's not even the first player to do what he's doing.

And it's not like he ever does it when it really matters.

Eh I don't think it's that far fetched... He has one of the highest usage rates ever and yet maintains supreme efficiency. Also, when you factor in his passing ability off of that (averaging 8 apg since he's been in a Rocket Uniform with now 1 and a half of those years being spent with one of the greatest passers of all time). The list is pretty low if guys who combine his usage, efficiency and passing ability statistically.

I definitely wouldn't go as far to say that he's definitively the best offensive player ever but IMO it's not ridiculous to say he's top 5.

[Cookies4Life]

It would've been really interesting to see James harden play back in the 80's era. The way players could defend back than (hand checking,) makes me believe he would've probably been a fringe All star player at best.

He's on a very nice run but definitely not greatest offensive player ever. Jordan averaged over 37 ppg for a season during a very physical period in the league. I won't even mention WIlt's accolades because it sounds almost too cartoonish how dominant he was.

[whocares1]

Rockets GM says argument could be made for James Harden to be called best offensive player ever

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25681961/houston-rockets-gm-daryl-morey-says-james-harden-best-offensive-player-all

This has to be a joke. He's not even the first player to do what he's doing.

And it's not like he ever does it when it really matters.

He doesn’t do it when it matters because the rule book changes in the post season. He also is usually fatigued at that point after carrying the team all season. Harden is a GOAT level scorer period.

[GONYK]

Rockets GM says argument could be made for James Harden to be called best offensive player ever

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25681961/houston-rockets-gm-daryl-morey-says-james-harden-best-offensive-player-all

This has to be a joke. He's not even the first player to do what he's doing.

And it's not like he ever does it when it really matters.

Eh I don't think it's that far fetched... He has one of the highest usage rates ever and yet maintains supreme efficiency. Also, when you factor in his passing ability off of that (averaging 8 apg since he's been in a Rocket Uniform with now 1 and a half of those years being spent with one of the greatest passers of all time). The list is pretty low if guys who combine his usage, efficiency and passing ability statistically.

I definitely wouldn't go as far to say that he's definitively the best offensive player ever but IMO it's not ridiculous to say he's top 5.

I am totally down for him being discussed in the top 5 for all the reasons you mentioned. Best ever? I don't think he's there.

[GEOLINK]

It would've been really interesting to see James harden play back in the 80's era. The way players could defend back than (hand checking,) makes me believe he would've probably been a fringe All star player at best.

He's on a very nice run but definitely not greatest offensive player ever. Jordan averaged over 37 ppg for a season during a very physical period in the league. I won't even mention WIlt's accolades because it sounds almost too cartoonish how dominant he was.

They certainly wouldn't give him the space to do his dribble bullcrap.

[GONYK]

Rockets GM says argument could be made for James Harden to be called best offensive player ever

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25681961/houston-rockets-gm-daryl-morey-says-james-harden-best-offensive-player-all

This has to be a joke. He's not even the first player to do what he's doing.

And it's not like he ever does it when it really matters.

He doesn’t do it when it matters because the rule book changes in the post season. He also is usually fatigued at that point after carrying the team all season. Harden is a GOAT level scorer period.

If he can't adjust, then he's not the GOAT. Period.

He's up there, but there has definitely been better.

[dakomish23]

I see that the Hornets want to move Batum. Good luck with that! And I thought hardaway's deal was bad.

Batum Bridges for Kanter Lee

Yeah right

Seriously though - who the hell is gonna take Batum for Kaminsky??

Somehow I can see the Nets making this move to get a draft pick or another young player.

If they flop in FA could def see that happening. Won’t be for a small payment either. That FO has done well in trades.

[1999]

It would've been really interesting to see James harden play back in the 80's era. The way players could defend back than (hand checking,) makes me believe he would've probably been a fringe All star player at best.

He's on a very nice run but definitely not greatest offensive player ever. Jordan averaged over 37 ppg for a season during a very physical period in the league. I won't even mention WIlt's accolades because it sounds almost too cartoonish how dominant he was.

Can’t have it both ways. Hand checking wouldn’t stop the step backs and it wouldn’t stop him from snapping ankles the way AI used too. He may get less free throws but he would still be ballin nonetheless. Besides that he’s still an excellent passer. Fringe allstar, stop it...


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[1999]

Harden has limitless range, elite passing and court vision, deceptive quickness and strength. That bodes well for him being great in any era.


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[Cookies4Life]

Harden has limitless range, elite passing and court vision, deceptive quickness and strength. That bodes well for him being great in any era.


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He's a good 3 point shooter ( I wouldn't say elite) and definitely has limitless range. He goes to the FT line a lot. Like a LOT. I wonder how many of those flops and flails would be considered fouls back in the 80's.

I don't know I have my doubts on his overall level of greatness. He is a very good passer though. I personally think he would've been a borderline All Star back in the 80's. I just don't think he'd get to the FT line anywhere near as much as he does in today's current version of the NBA. The era you play in absolutely matters. Regardless it's all hypothetical and he's definitely great in his era.

[robillionaire]

Harden is a good player who was made great by the league because he has his own special rules where he can do multiple stepbacks and travel and he creates contact and flops and they give him foul calls for it leading to him shooting and egregious amount of free throws. I probably fouled him by making this comment

[MrCheerios]

Harden has limitless range, elite passing and court vision, deceptive quickness and strength. That bodes well for him being great in any era.


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He's a good 3 point shooter ( I wouldn't say elite) and definitely has limitless range. He goes to the FT line a lot. Like a LOT. I wonder how many of those flops and flails would be considered fouls back in the 80's.

I don't know I have my doubts on his overall level of greatness. He is a very good passer though. I personally think he would've been a borderline All Star back in the 80's. I just don't think he'd get to the FT line anywhere near as much as he does in today's current version of the NBA. The era you play in absolutely matters. Regardless it's all hypothetical and he's definitely great in his era.

Is there a shooting guard in the league right now that would be better than Harden is the 80's era?

[Knicksfan1992]

Harden is a good player who was made great by the league because he has his own special rules where he can do multiple stepbacks and travel and he creates contact and flops and they give him foul calls for it leading to him shooting and egregious amount of free throws. I probably fouled him by making this comment

People just say flop and flail without crediting the fact that Harden has some of the best footwork and deceptive dribbling ability of all time. The reason Harden can "flop and fail" as you say is because he constantly puts defenders in compromised positions where they have to foul. Harden would be great in any era especially since zone defense was illegal and he'd have way more opportunity to go 1 on 1.

[Knicksfan1992]

Harden has limitless range, elite passing and court vision, deceptive quickness and strength. That bodes well for him being great in any era.


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He's a good 3 point shooter ( I wouldn't say elite) and definitely has limitless range. He goes to the FT line a lot. Like a LOT. I wonder how many of those flops and flails would be considered fouls back in the 80's.

I don't know I have my doubts on his overall level of greatness. He is a very good passer though. I personally think he would've been a borderline All Star back in the 80's. I just don't think he'd get to the FT line anywhere near as much as he does in today's current version of the NBA. The era you play in absolutely matters. Regardless it's all hypothetical and he's definitely great in his era.

Is there a shooting guard in the league right now that would be better than Harden is the 80's era?

No and Harden is practically a PG anyway.