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Bleeding Green wrote:If Williams maintains his current pace, he will surpass Kareem for all-time win shares in 50,159 minutes of gametime. As long as he can maintain a 32 minute pace, that's just 1567 more games. Wow, I guess Kareem was pretty good.
Duke4life831 wrote:It seems like if Rob plays at least 15 minutes, he's going to give you like 5 blocks and a good amount of rebounds. He needs to get better at reading his defensive assignments and not go chasing blocks. But the defensive potential with him is seriously crazy. Once he gets a little experience and gets better awareness, watch out with that dude. He will own the paint.
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:It seems like if Rob plays at least 15 minutes, he's going to give you like 5 blocks and a good amount of rebounds. He needs to get better at reading his defensive assignments and not go chasing blocks. But the defensive potential with him is seriously crazy. Once he gets a little experience and gets better awareness, watch out with that dude. He will own the paint.
He gets off the ground quicker than any 6’10+ guy I’ve ever seen. Its nuts, his quick twitch explosion is off-the-charts good.
Parliament10 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:It seems like if Rob plays at least 15 minutes, he's going to give you like 5 blocks and a good amount of rebounds. He needs to get better at reading his defensive assignments and not go chasing blocks. But the defensive potential with him is seriously crazy. Once he gets a little experience and gets better awareness, watch out with that dude. He will own the paint.
He gets off the ground quicker than any 6’10+ guy I’ve ever seen. Its nuts, his quick twitch explosion is off-the-charts good.
cloverleaf wrote:Can anyone who saw the game last night explain how the team's best rebounder, by rate, in Williams, suddenly got 0 boards last night, while one of its worst, in JB, pulled in 7 playing next to him off the bench?
Was Williams specifically blocking out for him, was JB hawking rebounds, or how did that change so dramatically?
Likewise, TRo, one of the team's best backcourt rebounders, only got 1 last night.
djFan71 wrote:cloverleaf wrote:Can anyone who saw the game last night explain how the team's best rebounder, by rate, in Williams, suddenly got 0 boards last night, while one of its worst, in JB, pulled in 7 playing next to him off the bench?
Was Williams specifically blocking out for him, was JB hawking rebounds, or how did that change so dramatically?
Likewise, TRo, one of the team's best backcourt rebounders, only got 1 last night.
MIL is crazy long and was crashing the boards which negated TRo and Williams. A good portion of Terry's boards are when there aren't a ton of people going for it or he skies over the other guard. MIL had more people going for them who are really tall. Williams, I didn't specifically watch for that, but just in general he wasn't the only athletic freak out there.
JB was actually fired up and busting his butt, flying around trying to make things happen. Esp. in the 2nd half. Good and bad, but mostly good. To the level where you wish he could play at a consistent 85-90% of that all the time.
cloverleaf wrote:djFan71 wrote:cloverleaf wrote:Can anyone who saw the game last night explain how the team's best rebounder, by rate, in Williams, suddenly got 0 boards last night, while one of its worst, in JB, pulled in 7 playing next to him off the bench?
Was Williams specifically blocking out for him, was JB hawking rebounds, or how did that change so dramatically?
Likewise, TRo, one of the team's best backcourt rebounders, only got 1 last night.
MIL is crazy long and was crashing the boards which negated TRo and Williams. A good portion of Terry's boards are when there aren't a ton of people going for it or he skies over the other guard. MIL had more people going for them who are really tall. Williams, I didn't specifically watch for that, but just in general he wasn't the only athletic freak out there.
JB was actually fired up and busting his butt, flying around trying to make things happen. Esp. in the 2nd half. Good and bad, but mostly good. To the level where you wish he could play at a consistent 85-90% of that all the time.
Thanks. I was wondering whether they might in part have been letting Brown grab the boards in order to help to get him out of whatever it is he is in.
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darrendaye wrote:Green_teamer wrote:?s=21
I posted this is post-game, respectfully adding to this thread too....
It finally occurred to me last night how to succinctly express what people see in Williams' mannerisms that cause concerns about his work ethic. Williams is like the child who knows he's fast, so when his/her friends/classmates get ready to race, rather than explode out of his starting stance, he take a little hop and then explodes into his first step.
You can see him VERY mentally engaged most of the time he is out there. My primary worry about his effort level is on the offensive glass where he isn't showing fight on enough of the opportunities where he has a realistic chance to get in position. He isn't maniacal about going to get the ball. This is opinion and surely subject to some personal bias, because statistically he's getting 1 offensive rebound a game in 9.1 minutes, which is solid. IMO the effort comes and goes. He had big offensive rebound games vs. the Suns and Pels. IMO he had added motivation going against Ayton (whom his collegiate effort against was panned by professional and amateur scouts/talking heads), and of course Anthony Davis.
But this isn't to say that his overall effort is greatly lacking, imo. Certainly has less than full throttle moments, but everyone does, they're not robots. Not yet. Clearly he's a guy who is very physically talented from a quickness, leaping, and body control/grace standpoint. Love his willingness to pass and he sees the floor pretty well already.
With the current state of the team, Smart/Morris starting, Stevens is in a great position (relative to Williams' development, not necessarily team results) to hammer home a "we need an energy guy, here's your shot" strategy with him. Personally I'd like Stevens to discourage some of the lob hunting that goes on when Williams enters the fray. I'd rather he take a, if you want to fill your belly with delicious baskets, you've got to fight to grab the crumbs that fall off the plate approach to focus him on his effort on the offensive glass and put-backs.
I'm rooting for him.