Mavs 2019 Draft discussion

[Ball4life32]

Too early to start thinking about Zion? *pray*

Right. He’s the perfect PF to put next to Luka as SF. RJ Barrett also looks amazing and Reddish might be a better Wing next to Luka.

Per The Sparest point, it’s looking like those 3, play maybe Little, will be the ones to get. And then a significant drop off from there.

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Bol Bol looks like a stud as well.

[Darren]

I think some teams may actually make their pick available if they can't land a top-5 pick. I expect Bol Bol is be a risky but well-fitted pick. I won't mind taking on Wiggins to try him out. Of couse, if the Mavs get a top-5 pick, Reddish is the easiest choice. His 7-1 wingspan is hard to pass up. The Mavs desperately need great defenders.

[The Sparest]

The idea that their ability to learn winning basketball will be destroyed by one or two years of losing basketball doesn't make sense, unless you think they aren't the hyper competitive types with a strong desire to win, which pretty much every assessment of both players have declared. Having 3 players 21 and under with star level talent is exactly what you want to build a long term winning basketball team with.

I am not concerned with how many they lose as much as how they are losing. If they are losing while developing as a team, then I can live with that, and they can learn from it. Losing with no sense of team work or cohesion, while guys like DJ and Wes create a toxic atmosphere of selfish play is not OK in my book.

[realEAST]

I'd like to see Mavs buy a high 2nd rounder (in addition to their own) - there should be some intriguing guys who have potential to be nice system players or pleasant surprises - and they play positions Dallas need: guards like C. Edwards, Z. Norvell, C. White, wings and forwards like C. Martin, C. Bazley or D. Lawson and bigs like S. Konate or Bruno Fernando. Later on there are older guys like G. Vick who could fit a 3&D guard mold too and fit well in system.

If Mavs think they have a find there, it could offer some flexibility with giving up some of the current youth (like D. Smith jr.) on potential trade market for a star.

[Pointguard01]

The thing is, as good as we have played, we are another 2 losses away from having the 7th worst record in the NBA. And then it becomes intriguing. Where we either convey in the 7-9 range or we win the lottery and move into the top 3.

G- Dennis Smith
G- Luka Doncic
F- Cam Reddish
F- Harrison Barnes
C- DeAndre Jordan (resigned @ 14-million)

Of course, I think Zion is the best fit, but even getting Reddish as a potential 40% 3-point shooter + ability to be a good defender would be so intriguing. Alot of luck would have to play into that but if we want realistic luck to move into the top-3, we need to have the 6th/7th worse record at best.

I'm not expecting that, but just something to monitor.

[Mr B]

The thing is, as good as we have played, we are another 2 losses away from having the 7th worst record in the NBA. And then it becomes intriguing. Where we either convey in the 7-9 range or we win the lottery and move into the top 3.

G- Dennis Smith
G- Luka Doncic
F- Cam Reddish
F- Harrison Barnes
C- DeAndre Jordan (resigned @ 14-million)

Of course, I think Zion is the best fit, but even getting Reddish as a potential 40% 3-point shooter + ability to be a good defender would be so intriguing. Alot of luck would have to play into that but if we want realistic luck to move into the top-3, we need to have the 6th/7th worse record at best.

I'm not expecting that, but just something to monitor.

They are not bad enough at home to finish in the bottom 5 of the NBA. So that means their pick will definitely go to Atlanta. Also I do. It think Deandre will resign with Dallas. This season he’s showing that he’s still one of the most dominant rebounders in the NBA and he’s no longer a liability late in games with the way he’s vastly improved his free throw shooting. A lot of teams will have money this off season and if he’s going to take $14 mil a year it likely won’t be from a rebuilding team. I could see him heading back to LA, only to play with Labron and the Lakers this time.

[Pointguard01]

The thing is, as good as we have played, we are another 2 losses away from having the 7th worst record in the NBA. And then it becomes intriguing. Where we either convey in the 7-9 range or we win the lottery and move into the top 3.

G- Dennis Smith
G- Luka Doncic
F- Cam Reddish
F- Harrison Barnes
C- DeAndre Jordan (resigned @ 14-million)

Of course, I think Zion is the best fit, but even getting Reddish as a potential 40% 3-point shooter + ability to be a good defender would be so intriguing. Alot of luck would have to play into that but if we want realistic luck to move into the top-3, we need to have the 6th/7th worse record at best.

I'm not expecting that, but just something to monitor.

They are not bad enough at home to finish in the bottom 5 of the NBA. So that means their pick will definitely go to Atlanta. Also I do. It think Deandre will resign with Dallas. This season he’s showing that he’s still one of the most dominant rebounders in the NBA and he’s no longer a liability late in games with the way he’s vastly improved his free throw shooting. A lot of teams will have money this off season and if he’s going to take $14 mil a year it likely won’t be from a rebuilding team. I could see him heading back to LA, only to play with Labron and the Lakers this time.

Ah no.

We won’t finish with a top-5 bottom records. But we COULD finish, say, 7th worse and then win the lottery to get into the top-3. Its best-case since the draft is, maybe, 3-deep. And maybe even 1-deep (Zion).

We don’t want the 7th pick in 2019 vs. getting our pick in the 2020 draft with how bad these prospects are looking. The restrictions work in our favor bc of that.

Just to say, as close as we are to the playoffs, we are very close to the 6-7th worse record, where teams have jumped up to the top-3 after the ping pong balls settle. So, monitoring the top 3-5 prospects is worth it.

[Mr B]

The thing is, as good as we have played, we are another 2 losses away from having the 7th worst record in the NBA. And then it becomes intriguing. Where we either convey in the 7-9 range or we win the lottery and move into the top 3.

G- Dennis Smith
G- Luka Doncic
F- Cam Reddish
F- Harrison Barnes
C- DeAndre Jordan (resigned @ 14-million)

Of course, I think Zion is the best fit, but even getting Reddish as a potential 40% 3-point shooter + ability to be a good defender would be so intriguing. Alot of luck would have to play into that but if we want realistic luck to move into the top-3, we need to have the 6th/7th worse record at best.

I'm not expecting that, but just something to monitor.

They are not bad enough at home to finish in the bottom 5 of the NBA. So that means their pick will definitely go to Atlanta. Also I do. It think Deandre will resign with Dallas. This season he’s showing that he’s still one of the most dominant rebounders in the NBA and he’s no longer a liability late in games with the way he’s vastly improved his free throw shooting. A lot of teams will have money this off season and if he’s going to take $14 mil a year it likely won’t be from a rebuilding team. I could see him heading back to LA, only to play with Labron and the Lakers this time.

Ah no.

We won’t finish with a top-5 bottom records. But we COULD finish, say, 7th worse and then win the lottery to get into the top-3. Its best-case since the draft is, maybe, 3-deep. And maybe even 1-deep (Zion).

We don’t want the 7th pick in 2019 vs. getting our pick in the 2020 draft with how bad these prospects are looking. The restrictions work in our favor bc of that.

Just to say, as close as we are to the playoffs, we are very close to the 6-7th worse record, where teams have jumped up to the top-3 after the ping pong balls settle. So, monitoring the top 3-5 prospects is worth it.

Doesn’t hurt to monitor them but it would be an extreme long shot for the Mavs to end up with a top 3 pick.

[Darren]

If the Mavs end up with top-5 pick, I'm in this order:
PG 6-3 Ja Morant and trade Smth
SF/SG 6-7 Cameron Reddish as an attempt to train a top-notch 3D player
Trade the pick for Mo Bamba or similar young big
Trade down for multiple picks (including Bol Bol) as a gamble and for depth (with multiple defenders around)

[Darren]

I'll consider Porzingis and 3rd pick (Ja Morant) for Doncic and a future 1st (top-5 protected). Then, trade Smith for another young starter (eg, Bamba) or multiple picks from Boston (in a three-way deal). And find two 3D players from 2nd round and FA. But attempts a run of AD first.

Davis
Porzingis
Barnes
_______ (Middeton? Butler? Leonard?)
Morant

The Mavs is in instant contender mode.

MOD EDIT: Guys. It's Darren. He has very unique perspectives. Take it easy.

[Duke4life831]

If the Mavs end up with top-5 pick, I'm in this order:
PG 6-3 Ja Morant and trade Smth
SF/SG 6-7 Cameron Reddish as an attempt to train a top-notch 3D player
Trade the pick for Mo Bamba or similar young big
Trade down for multiple picks (including Bol Bol) as a gamble and for depth (with multiple defenders around)

If you think DSJ is a bad fit with Doncic, Morant is worse. Even worse shooter than Smith, brings very little to no value off the ball. Also don't be fooled by the high assist numbers, he isn't a better facilitator than DSJ. He just a very high usage and plays against really bad competition.

[Pointguard01]

I'll consider Porzingis and 3rd pick (Ja Morant) for Doncic and a future 1st (top-5 protected). Then, trade Smith for another young starter (eg, Bamba) or multiple picks from Boston (in a three-way deal). And find two 3D players from 2nd round and FA. But attempts a run of AD first.

Davis
Porzingis
Barnes
_______ (Middeton? Butler? Leonard?)
Morant

The Mavs is in instant contender mode.

Stop.
It.
Right.
Now.

Doncic is already the better player compared to Porzingis. I don't do this trade straight up without the picks.

And if you factor in injury and the fact Porzingis will likely be making 4x as much money after this offseason where he is a RFA, this becomes unbelievably bad for Dallas.

When you factor age + contract situation, there might be 5 guys that you trade Doncic for. And those 5 guys are not available. Doncic is going nowhere.

[Suka Bongcic]

I'll consider Porzingis and 3rd pick (Ja Morant) for Doncic and a future 1st (top-5 protected). Then, trade Smith for another young starter (eg, Bamba) or multiple picks from Boston (in a three-way deal). And find two 3D players from 2nd round and FA. But attempts a run of AD first.

Davis
Porzingis
Barnes
_______ (Middeton? Butler? Leonard?)
Morant

The Mavs is in instant contender mode.

Put down the pipe

[Mr B]

I'll consider Porzingis and 3rd pick (Ja Morant) for Doncic and a future 1st (top-5 protected). Then, trade Smith for another young starter (eg, Bamba) or multiple picks from Boston (in a three-way deal). And find two 3D players from 2nd round and FA. But attempts a run of AD first.

Davis
Porzingis
Barnes
_______ (Middeton? Butler? Leonard?)
Morant

The Mavs is in instant contender mode.

You’re high too. No way in hell I’m ever trading Luka.

[fuller4379]

I'll consider Porzingis and 3rd pick (Ja Morant) for Doncic and a future 1st (top-5 protected). Then, trade Smith for another young starter (eg, Bamba) or multiple picks from Boston (in a three-way deal). And find two 3D players from 2nd round and FA. But attempts a run of AD first.

Davis
Porzingis
Barnes
_______ (Middeton? Butler? Leonard?)
Morant

The Mavs is in instant contender mode.

[No-Man]

I want Jaxson Hayes so much

[Darren]

If the Mavs gets 2019 top pick, what to do by then? Zion Williamson looks like a powerful tank. A lot of fans say Zion is comparable to LBJ? Is it really true? At 6-6 playing PF, I wonder how the number translate on NBA floor. That's elite athleticism (without elite jumping ability, though). But to run with that much bulk and get a lot of hard fouls in traffic is risky. I am actually open to trading down with Pheonix for Reddish, Mikal Bridge, 2 first round and second round picks.

[arkuo]

If the Mavs gets 2019 top pick, what to do by then? Zion Williamson looks like a powerful tank. A lot of fans say Zion is comparable to LBJ? Is it really true? At 6-6 playing PF, I wonder how the number translate on NBA floor. That's elite athleticism (without elite jumping ability, though). But to run with that much bulk and get a lot of hard fouls in traffic is risky. I am actually open to trading down with Pheonix for Reddish, Mikal Bridge, 2 first round and second round picks.

Top 4 is probably out of reach at this point. Best case seems to be #5. 6 and above it goes to the Hawks.

Do we have a 2nd rounder this draft?

[Darren]

If the Mavs gets 2019 top pick, what to do by then? Zion Williamson looks like a powerful tank. A lot of fans say Zion is comparable to LBJ? Is it really true? At 6-6 playing PF, I wonder how the number translate on NBA floor. That's elite athleticism (without elite jumping ability, though). But to run with that much bulk and get a lot of hard fouls in traffic is risky. I am actually open to trading down with Pheonix for Reddish, Mikal Bridge, 2 first round and second round picks.

Top 4 is probably out of reach at this point. Best case seems to be #5. 6 and above it goes to the Hawks.

Do we have a 2nd rounder this draft?

Mavs and GSW

[Apz]

Say we do suck rest of this season when we have no center outside powell, and drop to 5th worst. All stars align and we get the no1 pick. Would u take zion? Im not sure. Then u trade like Barnes for Drummond and the starting lineup next year could be something sexy like:
Brunson
Doncic
Zion
KP
Drummond

Would feel pretty damn difficult to defend against. Both JB and Luka can PnR with Drummond, Zion cut and KP can spread the floor. Considering that its pretty few bigs it would be very dificult for other teams to have someone that can stop KPs shooting, while keeping an eye on Drummond in middle and Zion doing what Zion do and still keep eyes on Luka and JB.

Not very likely, but dreamt it last night haha