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Re: 1/6 | G39: Washington Wizards at Oklahoma City Thunder - 6PM CST
Bad game by the team other then george but i don't know why everyone is acting like are season is over
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Re: 1/6 | G39: Washington Wizards at Oklahoma City Thunder - 6PM CST
I'll just repeat what I typed on the GB gameday thread.
"A good embarrassing loss. Guys needed to get their head out of the ass. If you are a poor shooting team, you don't have the luxury of not boxing out, rebounding, playing hard on defense. You WILL get blown out and it really doesn't matter who the opponent is.
This team hasn't arrived yet and will be playing a tough schedule going forward. Needed to know they haven't arrived yet."
Yep that about sums it up. You can't be lazy when you are a team that sucks at shooting. You have to outwork opponents because you don't have the luxury of the 3 ball comeback cheat code.
Yes it can be tiring to play at high intensity on the course of an NBA season, but that is just the hand you are dealt when you shoot as poorly from the perimeter as this team does. Donovan would never lay into them about effort or shot selection, so the next best thing is to be embarrassed at home to a team like Washington. Whatever is needed to hammer that point home into people's heads.
"A good embarrassing loss. Guys needed to get their head out of the ass. If you are a poor shooting team, you don't have the luxury of not boxing out, rebounding, playing hard on defense. You WILL get blown out and it really doesn't matter who the opponent is.
This team hasn't arrived yet and will be playing a tough schedule going forward. Needed to know they haven't arrived yet."
Yep that about sums it up. You can't be lazy when you are a team that sucks at shooting. You have to outwork opponents because you don't have the luxury of the 3 ball comeback cheat code.
Yes it can be tiring to play at high intensity on the course of an NBA season, but that is just the hand you are dealt when you shoot as poorly from the perimeter as this team does. Donovan would never lay into them about effort or shot selection, so the next best thing is to be embarrassed at home to a team like Washington. Whatever is needed to hammer that point home into people's heads.
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Re: 1/6 | G39: Washington Wizards at Oklahoma City Thunder - 6PM CST
Okay I want OKC to trade for Beal now that way Donovan has know reason to play Schroder and Westbrook together.
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Re: 1/6 | G39: Washington Wizards at Oklahoma City Thunder - 6PM CST
Our bench was really good against Portland (thanks Noel) and tonight was probably their worst game of the season.
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Shows how important our rebounding and defense is. If OKC dont do either of those well they are a sub .500 team because of their complete lack of shooting
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Re: 1/6 | G39: Washington Wizards at Oklahoma City Thunder - 6PM CST
anthony00 wrote:Bad game by the team other then george but i don't know why everyone is acting like are season is over
George had a nice start but then was way too passive.
Grant was the only Thunder playing a good game IMHO
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getrichordie wrote:Not making excuses for Schroder’s poor shooting, but he looks shaken up. Looks like he’s dealing with something tonight; he’s a bit gimpy.
And I wonder what the pace differential is from his tenure @ Hawks compared to the pace he plays at with the Thunder...
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Yet it seems like this post in an excuse. He doesn’t pass. He doesn’t run offense. He takes bad shots. He hasn’t bought into his role.
He gets switched onto a bigger player in the post multiple times a game and it’s an automatic basket.
There are times when he has a role, but as a SG in crunch time is not it.
He has a place on an NBA team as a valuable contributor. Maybe that place is OKC, but not if they continue to use him like this and he continues to play like he is.
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Donovans been pretty decent this year but tonight he was terrible.
No energy and yet he barely plays Diallo. He stuck with Schorder WAY too long. He refused to call timeouts down the stretch of the 3rd quarter when Wizards took the lead.
No energy and yet he barely plays Diallo. He stuck with Schorder WAY too long. He refused to call timeouts down the stretch of the 3rd quarter when Wizards took the lead.
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I’m not really mad about this loss although it’s disappointing. Watching the offensive struggles of this team has really killed some of the fun for me this season. I didn’t stay up and watch the lakers game. After reading the posts and looking at russ’ stat line, i literally had to make myself watch it two days later. I value defense and rebounding but seeing this team throw up brick after brick and hoping Paul George can save them gets old.
bisme37 wrote:If there were magnets in basketballs so strong they changed the path of the ball as it flew through the air, wouldn't the ball then stick magnetically to the rim when it got there?
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The plus/minus on Nadar, Noel and Schroeder was ... something.
http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401071264
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Dn4sty wrote:Donovans been pretty decent this year but tonight he was terrible.
No energy and yet he barely plays Diallo. He stuck with Schorder WAY too long. He refused to call timeouts down the stretch of the 3rd quarter when Wizards took the lead.
+1000
Donovan was trash tonight despite having better in game decisions this year.
Don't get why Diallo is not having more minutes lately
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Dadouv47 wrote:Dn4sty wrote:Donovans been pretty decent this year but tonight he was terrible.
No energy and yet he barely plays Diallo. He stuck with Schorder WAY too long. He refused to call timeouts down the stretch of the 3rd quarter when Wizards took the lead.
+1000
Donovan was trash tonight despite having better in game decisions this year.
Don't get why Diallo is not having more minutes lately
Also when the game was CLEARLY over, he’d played starters 3 more unnecessary minutes.
Also this would have seemingly been a game to look at giving Burton/Grantham a bit of run. They needed a spark from someone.
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Billy barely played Diallo because Diallo once again was woeful. When he wasn't giving up buckets he was fouling. Sometimes he did both...
Of course he's a rook. He has a decent excuse.
What is Schroder's? The guy remains abysmal and the Wiz picked on him possession after possession on defence. Even Billy lost patience with him tonight - playing him a season low 16 minutes.
The starters were actually very good in this one - playing 22 minutes for a 39.6 NRtg. Ferg is really impressing of late, and was rewarded with more minutes.
Every other lineup was trounced.
Anyway, shithouse game. I wish we could rest Russ for a month.
Of course he's a rook. He has a decent excuse.
What is Schroder's? The guy remains abysmal and the Wiz picked on him possession after possession on defence. Even Billy lost patience with him tonight - playing him a season low 16 minutes.
The starters were actually very good in this one - playing 22 minutes for a 39.6 NRtg. Ferg is really impressing of late, and was rewarded with more minutes.
Every other lineup was trounced.
Anyway, shithouse game. I wish we could rest Russ for a month.
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Raijin wrote:Billy barely played Diallo because Diallo once again was woeful. When he wasn't giving up buckets he was fouling. Sometimes he did both...
Of course he's a rook. He has a decent excuse.
What is Schroder's? The guy remains abysmal and the Wiz picked on him possession after possession on defence. Even Billy lost patience with him tonight - playing him a season low 16 minutes.
The starters were actually very good in this one - playing 22 minutes for a 39.6 NRtg. Ferg is really impressing of late, and was rewarded with more minutes.
Every other lineup was trounced.
Anyway, shithouse game. I wish we could rest Russ for a month.
Diallo played 2 minutes until garbage time.
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Satoransky would a 10x better backup point guard for this team than schroder
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Dn4sty wrote:Raijin wrote:Billy barely played Diallo because Diallo once again was woeful. When he wasn't giving up buckets he was fouling. Sometimes he did both...
Of course he's a rook. He has a decent excuse.
What is Schroder's? The guy remains abysmal and the Wiz picked on him possession after possession on defence. Even Billy lost patience with him tonight - playing him a season low 16 minutes.
The starters were actually very good in this one - playing 22 minutes for a 39.6 NRtg. Ferg is really impressing of late, and was rewarded with more minutes.
Every other lineup was trounced.
Anyway, shithouse game. I wish we could rest Russ for a month.
Diallo played 2 minutes until garbage time.
You don't think there's a reason for that? Maybe, just maybe, he's kinda sucked?
The first thing he did when he came on was get beat and gives up an And 1. Then he fouls soon afterwards to put Porter at the line.
He had no idea out there - like the last game - so he got the early pull.
If Abrines was healthy/available, then we might not have seen Diallo at all tonight in meaningful minutes. He's largely been very poor since returning from his ankle injury.
That all said, it's the least of my worries. He's a kid. Schroder being Melo in disguise is what really is killing me.
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Dn4sty wrote:Satoransky would a 10x better backup point guard for this team than schroder
Amen.
Sato is good and would be a much better fit next to Russ.
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Raijin wrote:Dn4sty wrote:Raijin wrote:Billy barely played Diallo because Diallo once again was woeful. When he wasn't giving up buckets he was fouling. Sometimes he did both...
Of course he's a rook. He has a decent excuse.
What is Schroder's? The guy remains abysmal and the Wiz picked on him possession after possession on defence. Even Billy lost patience with him tonight - playing him a season low 16 minutes.
The starters were actually very good in this one - playing 22 minutes for a 39.6 NRtg. Ferg is really impressing of late, and was rewarded with more minutes.
Every other lineup was trounced.
Anyway, shithouse game. I wish we could rest Russ for a month.
Diallo played 2 minutes until garbage time.
You don't think there's a reason for that? Maybe, just maybe, he's kinda sucked?
The first thing he did when he came on was get beat and gives up an And 1. Then he fouls soon afterwards to put Porter at the line.
He had no idea out there - like the last game - so he got the early pull.
If Abrines was healthy/available, then we might not have seen Diallo at all tonight in meaningful minutes. He's largely been very poor since returning from his ankle injury.
That all said, it's the least of my worries. He's a kid. Schroder being Melo in disguise is what really is killing me.
So Nader was better? He hit a 3, but lost everyone defensively all night. Billy has been good this year, but he was bad tonight
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Dn4sty wrote:Raijin wrote:Dn4sty wrote:
Diallo played 2 minutes until garbage time.
You don't think there's a reason for that? Maybe, just maybe, he's kinda sucked?
The first thing he did when he came on was get beat and gives up an And 1. Then he fouls soon afterwards to put Porter at the line.
He had no idea out there - like the last game - so he got the early pull.
If Abrines was healthy/available, then we might not have seen Diallo at all tonight in meaningful minutes. He's largely been very poor since returning from his ankle injury.
That all said, it's the least of my worries. He's a kid. Schroder being Melo in disguise is what really is killing me.
So Nader was better? He hit a 3, but lost everyone defensively all night. Billy has been good this year, but he was bad tonight
Nader was better, yes. He remains painfully slow, but we have to play someone, so we're running with the guy that can hit the odd 3 - which is the rarest of all skills for a Thunder player.
It's not ideal. And I agree that Billy should have sat the starters earlier. I was pissed off when he brought Adams back in, down 23 with 6 minutes left to go. The game was gone, Billy...
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Raijin wrote:Dn4sty wrote:Raijin wrote:
You don't think there's a reason for that? Maybe, just maybe, he's kinda sucked?
The first thing he did when he came on was get beat and gives up an And 1. Then he fouls soon afterwards to put Porter at the line.
He had no idea out there - like the last game - so he got the early pull.
If Abrines was healthy/available, then we might not have seen Diallo at all tonight in meaningful minutes. He's largely been very poor since returning from his ankle injury.
That all said, it's the least of my worries. He's a kid. Schroder being Melo in disguise is what really is killing me.
So Nader was better? He hit a 3, but lost everyone defensively all night. Billy has been good this year, but he was bad tonight
Nader was better, yes. He remains painfully slow, but we have to play someone, so we're running with the guy that can hit the odd 3 - which is the rarest of all skills for a Thunder player.
It's not ideal. And I agree that Billy should have sat the starters earlier. I was pissed off when he brought Adams back in, down 23 with 6 minutes left to go. The game was gone, Billy...
Nader was a -20 in an 18 point loss. Just sayin' he was pretty awful tonight. Diallo probably woudn't have made much difference but Nader was (is?) total garbage.
Also, as to this 'he can hit a three' thing. He shot 35% last year in Boston in over 500 minutes played. In the D League the year before (over the course of 40 games down there) he shot 35%. He's shooting 35% so far this year with us. I don't think one can count on him as some sort of three point specialist and overlook all his other warts as a low to mid 30s percentage shooter.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/naderab01.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com/gleague/players/n/naderab01d.html
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