Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc

[JBSouthpaw]

Keep an eye on the 5PM EST waiver wire. Monday is the last day to waive a player on a non-guaranteed/partial contract and not get charged the full salary.

The list of 20 players include Ryan Arcidiacono, Shaquille Harrison, Alfonzo McKinnie, Michael Carter-Williams, Patrick Beverley, Tyrone Wallace, Christian Wood, Tim Frazier, Jahlil Okafor, Kenrich Williams, Trey Burke, Noah Vonleh, Isaiah Briscoe, TJ McConnell, Richaun Holmes, Quincy Pondexter, Lorenzo Brown, Royce O'Neale, Ron Baker and Chasson Randle.

Yet another complete failure of the front office. If they keep him I wouldn't be surprised, but in no way should this guy be given any more minutes.

What has the 3rd string PG failed at? Not being starter material? Come on, maybe the expectations were a bit high? He's also the 4th youngest on the team.

[basketballRob]

The Clippers traded Griffin for Tobias, Bradley, and SGA. Could we trade Vuc for a similar deal? A young player, veteran, and a pick.

i don't know. Griffin was top 5 in mvp votes few years back.
If they can swing that type of deal ,they should do it.

Vuc is playing like an allstar, but the problem is he is UFA. No team is going to give up a pick, starters for a half season and risk the guy leaving. If we had traded him on draft night or last year deadline it may have been different. We waited to long to trade him. I could see a team like Spurs, Lakers, Rockets giving up a late future first round pick. Boston may even do a Rozier, filler for Vuc swap. iF that doesn't entice you then your hoping you resign him at seasons end.

Same could be said for Ross...UFA who is coveted, but won't have a high return.

I think his bird rights are traded with him.

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[darthmerrick]

i don't know. Griffin was top 5 in mvp votes few years back.
If they can swing that type of deal ,they should do it.

Vuc is playing like an allstar, but the problem is he is UFA. No team is going to give up a pick, starters for a half season and risk the guy leaving. If we had traded him on draft night or last year deadline it may have been different. We waited to long to trade him. I could see a team like Spurs, Lakers, Rockets giving up a late future first round pick. Boston may even do a Rozier, filler for Vuc swap. iF that doesn't entice you then your hoping you resign him at seasons end.

Same could be said for Ross...UFA who is coveted, but won't have a high return.

I think his bird rights are traded with him.

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I think BR are traded with him, but who is seriously going to give him Jokic money to extend him? No matter where he goes, I think he is going to consider FA which will hurt his trade value. The only shot we have of keeping him is by way overpaying.

[CZ Eddie]

Weird timing.
I was just thinking to myself a day or two ago that Tibs should be fired for not doing more with that team.
The only good he's done is evident with the re-emergence of D.Rose.

Fast forward 24 hours and I'm reading that he got fired.
After WINNING a game vs. the Lakers.

I almost feel guilty, like I somehow willed him to be fired.

[fklt]

Are WeHam on vacation?

are they not always?

[darthmerrick]

Weird timing.
I was just thinking to myself a day or two ago that Tibs should be fired for not doing more with that team.
The only good he's done is evident with the re-emergence of D.Rose.

Fast forward 24 hours and I'm reading that he got fired.
After WINNING a game vs. the Lakers.

I almost feel guilty, like I somehow willed him to be fired.

Can you get Weham to get off their butts and do something to either save the season or blow it up?

[darthmerrick]

Are WeHam on vacation?

are they not always?

I'm convinced they only work two weeks a year. Draft week and the 2nd week of Free Agency to see whose left we can find some bargains.

[rcklsscognition]

Keep an eye on the 5PM EST waiver wire. Monday is the last day to waive a player on a non-guaranteed/partial contract and not get charged the full salary.

The list of 20 players include Ryan Arcidiacono, Shaquille Harrison, Alfonzo McKinnie, Michael Carter-Williams, Patrick Beverley, Tyrone Wallace, Christian Wood, Tim Frazier, Jahlil Okafor, Kenrich Williams, Trey Burke, Noah Vonleh, Isaiah Briscoe, TJ McConnell, Richaun Holmes, Quincy Pondexter, Lorenzo Brown, Royce O'Neale, Ron Baker and Chasson Randle.

Yet another complete failure of the front office. If they keep him I wouldn't be surprised, but in no way should this guy be given any more minutes.

What has the 3rd string PG failed at? Not being starter material? Come on, maybe the expectations were a bit high? He's also the 4th youngest on the team.

I'd have to mark it a failure when you cannot make it past Jerian Grant in the depth chart. We really have too low of expectations for young players. We act like these guys shouldn't even understand how to play basketball until they're 5 years in on their 2nd deals. For Pete's sake, can we not find anyone who is actually talented?

[MagicStarwipe]

Keep an eye on the 5PM EST waiver wire. Monday is the last day to waive a player on a non-guaranteed/partial contract and not get charged the full salary.



Yet another complete failure of the front office. If they keep him I wouldn't be surprised, but in no way should this guy be given any more minutes.

What has the 3rd string PG failed at? Not being starter material? Come on, maybe the expectations were a bit high? He's also the 4th youngest on the team.

I'd have to mark it a failure when you cannot make it past Jerian Grant in the depth chart. We really have too low of expectations for young players. We act like these guys shouldn't even understand how to play basketball until they're 5 years in on their 2nd deals. For Pete's sake, can we not find anyone who is actually talented?

Well they found Birch... but he's now like the 5th centre on the roster

[OrlandO]

Keep an eye on the 5PM EST waiver wire. Monday is the last day to waive a player on a non-guaranteed/partial contract and not get charged the full salary.

The list of 20 players include Ryan Arcidiacono, Shaquille Harrison, Alfonzo McKinnie, Michael Carter-Williams, Patrick Beverley, Tyrone Wallace, Christian Wood, Tim Frazier, Jahlil Okafor, Kenrich Williams, Trey Burke, Noah Vonleh, Isaiah Briscoe, TJ McConnell, Richaun Holmes, Quincy Pondexter, Lorenzo Brown, Royce O'Neale, Ron Baker and Chasson Randle.

Yet another complete failure of the front office. If they keep him I wouldn't be surprised, but in no way should this guy be given any more minutes.

Waives Briscoe... signs Michael Carter Williams...

[MagicFan101]

Not trade for, sign if he is waived or bought out

Still a pretty horrible idea. Even at his best Parsons was a guy I never wanted on my team.

But, a guy who can shoot over 40% from 3 can greatly help out this team for 10-15mpg.

Not true.

Not until another major move is made and even then, adding Parsons is too little too late for this season.

Stuck in the middle is the worst place to be.

Focus on acquiring a game changing PG, developing the young talent we have and / or tanking for the draft.

Parsons does not help any of those scenarios and even hurts two of them.

[basketballRob]

Vuc is playing like an allstar, but the problem is he is UFA. No team is going to give up a pick, starters for a half season and risk the guy leaving. If we had traded him on draft night or last year deadline it may have been different. We waited to long to trade him. I could see a team like Spurs, Lakers, Rockets giving up a late future first round pick. Boston may even do a Rozier, filler for Vuc swap. iF that doesn't entice you then your hoping you resign him at seasons end.

Same could be said for Ross...UFA who is coveted, but won't have a high return.

I think his bird rights are traded with him.

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I think BR are traded with him, but who is seriously going to give him Jokic money to extend him? No matter where he goes, I think he is going to consider FA which will hurt his trade value. The only shot we have of keeping him is by way overpaying.

Why overpay? They have a bunch of centers available next year.

[BadMofoPimp]

Still a pretty horrible idea. Even at his best Parsons was a guy I never wanted on my team.

But, a guy who can shoot over 40% from 3 can greatly help out this team for 10-15mpg.

Not true.

Not until another major move is made and even then, adding Parsons is too little too late for this season.

Stuck in the middle is the worst place to be.

Focus on acquiring a game changing PG, developing the young talent we have and / or tanking for the draft.

Parsons does not help any of those scenarios and even hurts two of them.

Adding Parson isn't going to hurt anything but add depth to a horrible bench. Parson wouldn't affect any PG acquisition, so your premise doesn't make sense at all.

As far as everyone complaining about being "Stuck in the friggin Middle?!?!?!" Well, every team has to be in the middle at some stage as you don't go from Bottom to top seed overnight. Each year, you keep building, developing and getting better. Just winning an elite talent in the draft doesn't guarantee success. More often, those teams end up stuck in the middle with that one star talent aka Kings, Pelicans, Wizards etc etc etc. People need to get off their high horses in that they know more than Real GM's in the business.

[yoyojw17]

But, a guy who can shoot over 40% from 3 can greatly help out this team for 10-15mpg.

Not true.

Not until another major move is made and even then, adding Parsons is too little too late for this season.

Stuck in the middle is the worst place to be.

Focus on acquiring a game changing PG, developing the young talent we have and / or tanking for the draft.

Parsons does not help any of those scenarios and even hurts two of them.

Adding Parson isn't going to hurt anything but add depth to a horrible bench. Parson wouldn't affect any PG acquisition, so your premise doesn't make sense at all.

As far as everyone complaining about being "Stuck in the friggin Middle?!?!?!" Well, every team has to be in the middle at some stage as you don't go from Bottom to top seed overnight. Each year, you keep building, developing and getting better. Just winning an elite talent in the draft doesn't guarantee success. More often, those teams end up stuck in the middle with that one star talent aka Kings, Pelicans, Wizards etc etc etc. People need to get off their high horses in that they know more than Real GM's in the business.

I would NEVEr in a millions years have traded for Parson's and that contract of his. But i damn well would accept him as a waived free agent. Give the guy another chance and bring him back to Florida. Might help with our shooting and ball rotation. I'd take a stab and see what he can do when compared to Simmons and Iwundu.

[BadMofoPimp]

Not true.

Not until another major move is made and even then, adding Parsons is too little too late for this season.

Stuck in the middle is the worst place to be.

Focus on acquiring a game changing PG, developing the young talent we have and / or tanking for the draft.

Parsons does not help any of those scenarios and even hurts two of them.

Adding Parson isn't going to hurt anything but add depth to a horrible bench. Parson wouldn't affect any PG acquisition, so your premise doesn't make sense at all.

As far as everyone complaining about being "Stuck in the friggin Middle?!?!?!" Well, every team has to be in the middle at some stage as you don't go from Bottom to top seed overnight. Each year, you keep building, developing and getting better. Just winning an elite talent in the draft doesn't guarantee success. More often, those teams end up stuck in the middle with that one star talent aka Kings, Pelicans, Wizards etc etc etc. People need to get off their high horses in that they know more than Real GM's in the business.

I would NEVEr in a millions years have traded for Parson's and that contract of his. But i damn well would accept him as a waived free agent. Give the guy another chance and bring him back to Florida. Might help with our shooting and ball rotation. I'd take a stab and see what he can do when compared to Simmons and Iwundu.

That is exactly what I meant in obtaining him if waived. That is all I meant.

[yoyojw17]

Adding Parson isn't going to hurt anything but add depth to a horrible bench. Parson wouldn't affect any PG acquisition, so your premise doesn't make sense at all.

As far as everyone complaining about being "Stuck in the friggin Middle?!?!?!" Well, every team has to be in the middle at some stage as you don't go from Bottom to top seed overnight. Each year, you keep building, developing and getting better. Just winning an elite talent in the draft doesn't guarantee success. More often, those teams end up stuck in the middle with that one star talent aka Kings, Pelicans, Wizards etc etc etc. People need to get off their high horses in that they know more than Real GM's in the business.

I would NEVEr in a millions years have traded for Parson's and that contract of his. But i damn well would accept him as a waived free agent. Give the guy another chance and bring him back to Florida. Might help with our shooting and ball rotation. I'd take a stab and see what he can do when compared to Simmons and Iwundu.

That is exactly what I meant in obtaining him if waived. That is all I meant.

I know.... i was agreeing and piggybacking.... but i was mentioning the trade based on the times people suggested it back in the day and i nearly threw up in my mouth haha

[BadMofoPimp]

I would NEVEr in a millions years have traded for Parson's and that contract of his. But i damn well would accept him as a waived free agent. Give the guy another chance and bring him back to Florida. Might help with our shooting and ball rotation. I'd take a stab and see what he can do when compared to Simmons and Iwundu.

That is exactly what I meant in obtaining him if waived. That is all I meant.

I know.... i was agreeing and piggybacking.... but i was mentioning the trade based on the times people suggested it back in the day and i nearly threw up in my mouth haha

I agree. I never in a million years wanted Parsons at anything over $20 mil per season even when he was a Free Agent. He had bust written all over him. But, a solid backup minimum contract and he can be a steal.

[MagicFan101]

But, a guy who can shoot over 40% from 3 can greatly help out this team for 10-15mpg.

Not true.

Not until another major move is made and even then, adding Parsons is too little too late for this season.

Stuck in the middle is the worst place to be.

Focus on acquiring a game changing PG, developing the young talent we have and / or tanking for the draft.

Parsons does not help any of those scenarios and even hurts two of them.

Adding Parson isn't going to hurt anything but add depth to a horrible bench. Parson wouldn't affect any PG acquisition, so your premise doesn't make sense at all.

I offered 3 areas we need to focus on and the FACT that Parsons hurts our efforts in 2 of them. If I am not mistaken 2 < 3. I had hoped you could conclude for yourself which one I left off the list.

Apologies. I will not overestimate your comprehensions skills again.

[Nemesis21]

Are WeHam on vacation?

I hear that they are regulars at Trump's golf courses.

[VFX]

Parsons is only worth signing (after waived) if two things happen. He is signed for a discount (which he should be discounted), and Orlando makes subsequent trades to blow up their roster beforehand. Ideally this all happens in the offseason.