Bulls trade for cash, waive MCW + Brooks

[Proven_Winner]

Like I said, a rebuild done right.

Whhiffing on 4 out of 6 lottery picks is a "rebuild done right"?

Building in a tolerance for missed draft picks is indeed a rebuild done right.

The Process **** all over whatever supposed strategy GarPax has. Anybody claiming otherwise is a moron. Full stop.

Correct me if I’m wrong but don’t want you want avoid having missing picks period let alone top picks? And you can’t build a tolerance for missing especially when you’re in the middle of deciding whether you just blew another top pick on a guy who’s not part of your future.

[Jvaughn]

It's probably like Top 59 protected or something. Sounds like an ownership deal.

Basically: Nothing to see here.

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I definitely want to see the details on this. I wouldn't be surprised if the protections weren't that heavy. This team doesn't seem to value 2nds.

Both KC and a Houston beat reporter are describing the protections as needing way too much to happen to convey. The cash covers waiving Brooks and MCW.

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Ah, I see the tweet now. Yeah, this really is a "nothing to see here" move. Just pays for JR to be able to waive MCW and Brooks without taking a real loss.

[Hangtime84]

The definitely messed up last season, but have what have they done wrong this year? We are losing relying solely on mostly young high potential players and just traded away a vet that has made us worse.

Bulls are typically a step slow when it comes to how to tank right. If that punch never happened our pick would have been much lower than 7.

[Michael Jackson]

What are the chances Reinsdorf uses this money towards the White Sox free agency.....

Two different ownership groups. Although Reinsdorf is in charge of both he can't just shift the money around like that.

[cool007]

Man when he was a rookie, he looked damn good and some even thought, he would be what Shawn Livingston could have been.

How everything changed so fast.

[TheSuzerain]

Whhiffing on 4 out of 6 lottery picks is a "rebuild done right"?

Building in a tolerance for missed draft picks is indeed a rebuild done right.

The Process **** all over whatever supposed strategy GarPax has. Anybody claiming otherwise is a moron. Full stop.

Correct me if I’m wrong but don’t want you want avoid having missing picks period let alone top picks? And you can’t build a tolerance for missing especially when you’re in the middle of deciding whether you just blew another top pick on a guy who’s not part of your future.

It's not a discretionary thing. Luck has a lot more to do with draft pick success/failure than people would like to admit. Simply saying "we'll just draft the best guy!" is not really a strategy at all.

Hinkie understood that more at-bats is a more reliable method than a higher batting average.

A tolerance for missing is necessary for any plan to be reliable. Otherwise, you're pretty much just gambling on landing a star.

[JimmyJammer]

Per nba's policy, you cannot do a trade without sending out something back. Since the Rockets were not trying to take salary back, a conditional second round pick had to be included.

[TheStig]

What are the chances Reinsdorf uses this money towards the White Sox free agency.....

Two different ownership groups. Although Reinsdorf is in charge of both he can't just shift the money around like that.

Oh please. The Bulls are run for profits. The white sox are run on a much lower profit margin. He plays his favorite.

[dougthonus]

What are the chances Reinsdorf uses this money towards the White Sox free agency.....

Two different ownership groups. Although Reinsdorf is in charge of both he can't just shift the money around like that.

Oh please. The Bulls are run for profits. The white sox are run on a much lower profit margin. He plays his favorite.

I do think that he plays favorites to an extent, but I think the bulls haven't left anything major on the table due to an unwillingness to pay. The white sox are also not running around with some crazy payroll and never have.

He makes a ton more on the Bulls because a reasonable basketball payroll rakes in tons of profits and a reasonable white sox payroll does not. It isn't because he is way out of bounds in his decision making on one vs the other.

[TheFinishSniper]

typical garpax trade. we like the cash

[ZOMG]

Per nba's policy, you cannot do a trade without sending out something back. Since the Rockets were not trying to take salary back, a conditional second round pick had to be included.

The Celtics essentially traded for Tatum and a 1st rounder and sent nothing back.

[Jimako10]

You mean 'tanking done right' and risks paying off. They also drafted Michael Carter-Williams, Evan Turner, Nerlens Noel and Jahlil Okafor before Embiid(who sat out nearly 2 seasons) and Simmons(who sat out a season) before it was deemed 'a rebuild done right'

Like I said, a rebuild done right.

Whhiffing on 4 out of 6 lottery picks is a "rebuild done right"?

And 2 out of 6 are franchise players....I'll take that.

[TheSuzerain]

Two different ownership groups. Although Reinsdorf is in charge of both he can't just shift the money around like that.

Oh please. The Bulls are run for profits. The white sox are run on a much lower profit margin. He plays his favorite.

I do think that he plays favorites to an extent, but I think the bulls haven't left anything major on the table due to an unwillingness to pay. The white sox are also not running around with some crazy payroll and never have.

He makes a ton more on the Bulls because a reasonable basketball payroll rakes in tons of profits and a reasonable white sox payroll does not. It isn't because he is way out of bounds in his decision making on one vs the other.

The boutique-shop front office is arguably leaving something major on the table.

We're not run like a big-time operation.

[Michael Jackson]

What are the chances Reinsdorf uses this money towards the White Sox free agency.....

Two different ownership groups. Although Reinsdorf is in charge of both he can't just shift the money around like that.

Oh please. The Bulls are run for profits. The white sox are run on a much lower profit margin. He plays his favorite.

I don’t disagree with that, just he can’t transfer money from one investment group to another. How cheap and profitable he is isn’t really the question here it is the legality of what is suggested.

[dougthonus]

The boutique-shop front office is arguably leaving something major on the table.

We're not run like a big-time operation.

I'm not sure what you mean (not agreeing or disagreeing) but what do you think would be different if we were run "like a big-time operation"?

[OnePointSeven]

So at the end of the day, we get cash and an open a roster spot.

Waived Payne, Brooks and MCW in less than a week.

Keep up the good work Gar, don't forget to waive Jabari, Blackeney and Felicio by the end of next week.

[Am2626]

This was a cash move. I highly doubt the 2nd gets sent.

Good job by GarPax! Coming for that profit title.

This is another big F***You to fans. I still don’t understand why people spend their money on this Franchise. It’s obvious they only care about their profits.

[TheSuzerain]

The boutique-shop front office is arguably leaving something major on the table.

We're not run like a big-time operation.

I'm not sure what you mean (not agreeing or disagreeing) but what do you think would be different if we were run "like a big-time operation"?

We've got 25 people listed in the directory under "Basketball Operations". Philadelphia 76ers have 75.

Our analytics department from what I can tell consists of 2 guys: 1 with a Bachelors of Science in Math and 1 with a masters in Business Analytics.

The Sixers Analytics are led by PhDs and have a department of 10 or more.

You get what you give.

[Am2626]

So at the end of the day, we get cash and an open a roster spot.

Waived Payne, Brooks and MCW in less than a week.

Keep up the good work Gar, don't forget to waive Jabari, Blackeney and Felicio by the end of next week.

The Bulls can have all the open roster spots they want but no player of any value will want to come to this toxic organization.

[Am2626]

The boutique-shop front office is arguably leaving something major on the table.

We're not run like a big-time operation.

I'm not sure what you mean (not agreeing or disagreeing) but what do you think would be different if we were run "like a big-time operation"?

We've got 25 people listed in the directory under "Basketball Operations". Philadelphia 76ers have 75.

Our analytics department from what I can tell consists of 2 guys: 1 with a Bachelors of Science in Math and 1 with a masters in Business Analytics.

The Sixers Analytics are led by PhDs and have a department of 10 or more.

You get what you give.

The less people they employ the fewer expenses they have. It’s all about cost containment for them.