Bulls trade for cash, waive MCW + Brooks

[johnnyvann840]

This is another big F***You to fans.

How is that? I'm genuinely curious, because the way I see this, the deal was about Rockets paying for their own and the Bulls open roster spot, as the Bulls got rid of Brooks for free.

I agree. After reading and understanding the trade... I don't understand how anyone could rip the front office for this one. It's just ragging on them for the sake of ragging on them.

I don't like Pax and Gar either, but you can't really reasonably get on them for this one.


They didn't want Marshon Brooks, so they basically just got his and MCW's contract paid for by the Rockets, and freed up a roster spot to get a look at some 10 day contract guys. And they didn't sell a pick here either. They only added a pick because you can't make a trade with another team without sending something back. It's so highly protected they will never get that pick.

So I don't understand what the problem is here with some people with the move. Other than I was confused at first when I saw we traded for MCW again, but now I understand.

It's true. If the 2nd is never conveyed then it seems this is just much ado about nada.

[mtron32]

The 5 seconds I thought MCW was a Bull again were absolutely **** horrific.

Yeah, all Bulls nation spit out a WTF the second they saw it.

[kingkirk]

Thoughts:

- If you read the article then there's no way you're mad at this

- Reacting in time without the article, just the tweet, there was no mention of the protection so I somewhat get the anger

- The front office did nothing wrong on this deal. Yes, fans should be less ignorant. At the same time, the fact that the sentiment goes to a dark place speaks volumes about perception of management. It's understandable given their history.

[HomoSapien]

Thoughts:

- If you read the article then there's no way you're mad at this

- Reacting in time without the article, just the tweet, there was no mention of the protection so I somewhat get the anger

- The front office did nothing wrong on this deal. Yes, fans should be less ignorant. At the same time, the fact that the sentiment goes to a dark place speaks volumes about perception of management. It's understandable given their history.

That's partly why I didn't understand why people thought we got such a good return on Holiday. I'm assuming we'll end up selling those picks, but would love to be proven wrong.

If the draft was today, our 2nd round pick would've been 34. Sadly we don't own that pick.

[Jimako10]

Whhiffing on 4 out of 6 lottery picks is a "rebuild done right"?

And 2 out of 6 are franchise players....I'll take that.

And they're an Embiid injury away from no man's land

That's literally every team with a franchise player.

[cjbulls]

And 2 out of 6 are franchise players....I'll take that.

And they're an Embiid injury away from no man's land

That's literally every team with a franchise player.

Embiid has a much higher risk profile than any other superstar, probably the largest injury risk of any player in the nba.

[Red Larrivee]

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Well, that didn't take long.

I don't see how they're related.

[Dominator83]

I'm usually the 1st guy on here ripping the F.O., but this one is much Adu about nothing. This trade doesn't impact the team on the floor one way or the other. That pick wont convey, and they did another GM a solid, which is nice to see our FO actually try and build up a little carte Blanche with some other GMs. They need to be building relationships around the league.

[Wingy]

Who has the Bulls second rounder?

Everyone

[Wingy]

You would be crying your ass off if we were as bad as Philly for as long as they were bad while whiffing on picks. We are just in year 2 with a bottom 3 team and you have already lost it. I think the Bulls are doing alright as far as the rebuild being terrible while also having some good young talent.

No, I wouldn't be because I understand what Philly did. And how our approach is far worse than Hinkie's.

If we were engaged in the Process, we'd have Luka Doncic and future picks in the coming years.

The definitely messed up last season, but have what have they done wrong this year? We are losing relying solely on mostly young high potential players and just traded away a vet that has made us worse.

Yup, right as the odds changed. Impeccable timing. Bravo.

[Ccwatercraft]

Who has the Bulls second rounder?

Everyone

Philly via lakers

[Jcool0]

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[Ccwatercraft]

Conditions for the pick.

2020 second round draft pick to Houston
Chicago's 2020 2nd round pick to Houston protected for selections 31-55 (if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Chicago's obligation to Houston will be extinguished) [Chicago-Houston, 1/7/2019]

[greenl]

Cash Considerations is the player this team needs. He's fungible, liquid smooth, and desired by everyone. Can't wait to watch him do his thing.

[kulaz3000]

Conditions for the pick.

2020 second round draft pick to Houston
Chicago's 2020 2nd round pick to Houston protected for selections 31-55 (if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Chicago's obligation to Houston will be extinguished) [Chicago-Houston, 1/7/2019]

Which basically means for the pick to actually given to the Rockets, the Bulls would need to become a top 5 team in the league by 2020. That's not going to happen, unless we draft Zion and he has a Magic like impact right out of the gate.

[P.C.]

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Well, that didn't take long.

I don't see how they're related.

There’s a long history of the Whites Sox making big spends after the Bulls sell off an asset. You would think it is coincidental given that ownership for each team is by group, not by Reinsdorf but it’s happened with enough frequency to suggest otherwise. (And why the hell are the Sox announcing this deal anyway.) Let’s see if the Sox make a big offer to Manny Machado.

[P.C.]

A good management would use their cap space/trade exceptions to gather basketball assets like 2nd rounders/pick swaps.

Instead the Bulls use it to pay down their cap obligations above the salary floor (which is the bare minimum that teams have to pay NBA players each season).

This. The fact that the Bulls didn’t send out much value is miscontextualizing the move. Why did they send out any value at all? And why didn’t they receive any back?

[P.C.]

A good management would use their cap space/trade exceptions to gather basketball assets like 2nd rounders/pick swaps.

Instead the Bulls use it to pay down their cap obligations above the salary floor (which is the bare minimum that teams have to pay NBA players each season).

This. The fact that the Bulls didn’t send out much value is miscontextualizing the move. Why did they send out any value at all? And why didn’t they receive any back?

[Dominator83]

Conditions for the pick.

2020 second round draft pick to Houston
Chicago's 2020 2nd round pick to Houston protected for selections 31-55 (if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Chicago's obligation to Houston will be extinguished) [Chicago-Houston, 1/7/2019]

Which basically means for the pick to actually given to the Rockets, the Bulls would need to become a top 5 team in the league by 2020. That's not going to happen, unless we draft Zion and he has a Magic like impact right out of the gate.

That's the irony here for all the complaining. We as fans, should actually WANT that pick to convey!

[keloms]

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Well, that didn't take long.

I don't see how they're related.

There’s a long history of the Whites Sox making big spends after the Bulls sell off an asset. You would think it is coincidental given that ownership for each team is by group, not by Reinsdorf but it’s happened with enough frequency to suggest otherwise. (And why the hell are the Sox announcing this deal anyway.) Let’s see if the Sox make a big offer to Manny Machado.

It has no connection whatsoever. It's nothing more than a joke and anyone who really thinks the books of one is reflective of moves made elsewhere has no idea of the way businesses operates and the separation between entities, even if they share the same owner.