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[god shammgod]

does derrick rose really have to explain that he wasn't literally telling people to kill themselves ? really ? c'mon.

[K_ick_God]

Ingram & Hart are very likely nothing to write home about.

You’re always this quick to judge on youngsters??

Not just based on how many years or what the stats are. Based on watching a guy play. Ingram is fairly slow and doesn't shoot it great. His ceiling is not that high. Hart looks okay, as does Ingram, but nothing special.

Special will jump out at you pretty fast. Things a guy is lacking and what he may not be able to improve on will also will jump out.

Ball is never going to be a fluid player. Ingram is never going to be a dominant shooter/scorer or improve his quickness a ton.

If something is off with a guy in his stats or he's young, but he has all the things in the right places, then he could reach a high ceiling. I think Knox is like this. Ingram is not.

[spree2kawhi]

Ingram & Hart are very likely nothing to write home about.

You’re always this quick to judge on youngsters??

Not just based on how many years or what the stats are. Based on watching a guy play. Ingram is fairly slow and doesn't shoot it great. His ceiling is not that high. Hart looks okay, as does Ingram, but nothing special.

Special will jump out at you pretty fast. Things a guy is lacking and what he may not be able to improve on will also will jump out.

Ball is never going to be a fluid player. Ingram is never going to be a dominant shooter/scorer or improve his quickness a ton.

If something is off with a guy in his stats or he's young, but he has all the things in the right places, then he could reach a high ceiling. I think Knox is like this. Ingram is not.

Plus 100. LA has overrated assets. They just can't afford to let people know.

[spree2kawhi]

Hold up, hold up....
Somebody help me understand this Mccaw situation.
They paid a guy 2M guaranteed money, got him in the gym and then said “forget it”??

We go back and forth here with our zany trade ideas and the rationale behind it and truth be told a lot of us would be better fit to run some of these organizations.

Why’d they sign him? To make nice with his agent?
I’m totally confused. Did he walk in the gym all Tony Clifton’d up with two hookers and coke on his collar, stink of cheap booze the day after depositing the check talking in the third person?

Please explain what was the logic of this.
Is there some odd CBA loophole that helps them financially at play here I just don’t understand?

I almost saw it coming. It may really have been a ploy to harm the Warriors. I imagined it just the way it actually played out, but thought that was taking it too far by the Cavs.

[delvec19]

I'm scared that Cavs and Suns are done winning games.

[dakomish23]

You’re always this quick to judge on youngsters??

Not just based on how many years or what the stats are. Based on watching a guy play. Ingram is fairly slow and doesn't shoot it great. His ceiling is not that high. Hart looks okay, as does Ingram, but nothing special.

Special will jump out at you pretty fast. Things a guy is lacking and what he may not be able to improve on will also will jump out.

Ball is never going to be a fluid player. Ingram is never going to be a dominant shooter/scorer or improve his quickness a ton.

If something is off with a guy in his stats or he's young, but he has all the things in the right places, then he could reach a high ceiling. I think Knox is like this. Ingram is not.

Plus 100. LA has overrated assets. They just can't afford to let people know.

They’re not as good as the LAL hype machine makes them out to be, but it’s way too early to close the book on them.

[NJ-NYK-17]

God Da'Aron Fox is such a stud.

Imagine....him and KP....god we have completely screwed the tank up the last two years

[spree2kawhi]

Not just based on how many years or what the stats are. Based on watching a guy play. Ingram is fairly slow and doesn't shoot it great. His ceiling is not that high. Hart looks okay, as does Ingram, but nothing special.

Special will jump out at you pretty fast. Things a guy is lacking and what he may not be able to improve on will also will jump out.

Ball is never going to be a fluid player. Ingram is never going to be a dominant shooter/scorer or improve his quickness a ton.

If something is off with a guy in his stats or he's young, but he has all the things in the right places, then he could reach a high ceiling. I think Knox is like this. Ingram is not.

Plus 100. LA has overrated assets. They just can't afford to let people know.

They’re not as good as the LAL hype machine makes them out to be, but it’s way too early to close the book on them.

I don't know man I don't see anything there. If not for LeBron, Magic would be wishing he was in Orlando.
Like Ben Simmons, Lonzo doesn't provide anything of great value that isn't taken away by what he sucks at. Those guys are hot air, all hype imo.

May sound crazy, but look at it that way: Which other starting point guards in the league would you NOT prefer over Lonzo or Ben Simmons?

[dakomish23]

Ingram & Hart are very likely nothing to write home about.

You’re always this quick to judge on youngsters??

Not just based on how many years or what the stats are. Based on watching a guy play. Ingram is fairly slow and doesn't shoot it great. His ceiling is not that high. Hart looks okay, as does Ingram, but nothing special.

Special will jump out at you pretty fast. Things a guy is lacking and what he may not be able to improve on will also will jump out.

Ball is never going to be a fluid player. Ingram is never going to be a dominant shooter/scorer or improve his quickness a ton.

If something is off with a guy in his stats or he's young, but he has all the things in the right places, then he could reach a high ceiling. I think Knox is like this. Ingram is not.

Did you watch Ingram play last year? He showed a lot. He’s suffered next to Lebron b/c Ingram needs the ball in his hands.

Zo actually had a nice stretch alongside Lebron before the injury. He’s very solid on defense and was a solid secondary ball handler.

Way way way too early to write them off.

[dakomish23]

Plus 100. LA has overrated assets. They just can't afford to let people know.

They’re not as good as the LAL hype machine makes them out to be, but it’s way too early to close the book on them.

I don't know man I don't see anything there. If not for LeBron, Magic would be wishing he was in Orlando.
Like Ben Simmons, Lonzo doesn't provide anything of great value that isn't taken away by what he sucks at. Those guys are hot air, all hype imo.

May sound crazy, but look at it that way: Which other starting point guards in the league would you NOT prefer over Lonzo or Ben Simmons?

Mudiay?

[Adelheid]

Spurs really want KP huh...they should have approached the Knicks and offered Kawhi

[King of Canada]

Spurs really want KP huh...they should have approached the Knicks and offered Kawhi

I've always assumed KP would want the Spurs. It was just such a great fit. If he takes the QO he's going there for sure. I can't see it happening though.

[Besart19]

Spurs really want KP huh...they should have approached the Knicks and offered Kawhi

I've always assumed KP would want the Spurs. It was just such a great fit. If he takes the QO he's going there for sure. I can't see it happening though.

Ntilikina / Murray
DeRozan / Trier
Durant / Dotson
Williamson / Knox
Vonleh / Robinson

[TheGreenArrow]

Spurs really want KP huh...they should have approached the Knicks and offered Kawhi

I've always assumed KP would want the Spurs. It was just such a great fit. If he takes the QO he's going there for sure. I can't see it happening though.

Where theirs smoke there is fire. I think its more likely kp signs that qo instead of signing that extension.

[King of Canada]

Spurs really want KP huh...they should have approached the Knicks and offered Kawhi

I've always assumed KP would want the Spurs. It was just such a great fit. If he takes the QO he's going there for sure. I can't see it happening though.

Where theirs smoke there is fire. I think its more likely kp signs that qo instead of signing that extension.

I'd rather see him take the QO than sign the extension and try to force a trade. If he took the QO and walked I wouldn't be mad at him at all. That takes a lot of guts. He'd end up traded in the summer for sure.

I'm still holding out hope that he re-signs, we nab a max cat, and have a good future. If KP wants out, we mess up the draft, and don't sign a major FA I don't know if I can hang on much longer. I don't have time for this anymore.

[TheGreenArrow]

I've always assumed KP would want the Spurs. It was just such a great fit. If he takes the QO he's going there for sure. I can't see it happening though.

Where theirs smoke there is fire. I think its more likely kp signs that qo instead of signing that extension.

I'd rather see him take the QO than sign the extension and try to force a trade. If he took the QO and walked I wouldn't be mad at him at all. That takes a lot of guts. He'd end up traded in the summer for sure.

I'm still holding out hope that he re-signs, we nab a max cat, and have a good future. If KP wants out, we mess up the draft, and don't sign a major FA I don't know if I can hang on much longer. I don't have time for this anymore.

Im at that point also.

[newyorker4ever]

I've always assumed KP would want the Spurs. It was just such a great fit. If he takes the QO he's going there for sure. I can't see it happening though.

Where theirs smoke there is fire. I think its more likely kp signs that qo instead of signing that extension.

I'd rather see him take the QO than sign the extension and try to force a trade. If he took the QO and walked I wouldn't be mad at him at all. That takes a lot of guts. He'd end up traded in the summer for sure.

I'm still holding out hope that he re-signs, we nab a max cat, and have a good future. If KP wants out, we mess up the draft, and don't sign a major FA I don't know if I can hang on much longer. I don't have time for this anymore.

Playing next to or with KP is what some of these stars that have been mentioned for us want though so without KP then why would any star want to come here?

[King of Canada]

Where theirs smoke there is fire. I think its more likely kp signs that qo instead of signing that extension.

I'd rather see him take the QO than sign the extension and try to force a trade. If he took the QO and walked I wouldn't be mad at him at all. That takes a lot of guts. He'd end up traded in the summer for sure.

I'm still holding out hope that he re-signs, we nab a max cat, and have a good future. If KP wants out, we mess up the draft, and don't sign a major FA I don't know if I can hang on much longer. I don't have time for this anymore.

Playing next to or with KP is what some of these stars that have been mentioned for us want though so without KP then why would any star want to come here?

I think he'll be back, and we have a handshake deal with him already. He knows that a deal wasn't signed last year because we want to sign a FA. If we do sign that FA I'm sure the KP extension will come right after. Hell, if we win the lotto I'm sure he'd come back just for that. the money is just too much to leave on the table, so things will probably have to be really bad for him to actually want out.

[FemaleDogPlease]

If some teams signs KP to a ridiculous deal he will likely be gone. KP with knee problems is not a max player.

[newyorker4ever]

I'd rather see him take the QO than sign the extension and try to force a trade. If he took the QO and walked I wouldn't be mad at him at all. That takes a lot of guts. He'd end up traded in the summer for sure.

I'm still holding out hope that he re-signs, we nab a max cat, and have a good future. If KP wants out, we mess up the draft, and don't sign a major FA I don't know if I can hang on much longer. I don't have time for this anymore.

Playing next to or with KP is what some of these stars that have been mentioned for us want though so without KP then why would any star want to come here?

I think he'll be back, and we have a handshake deal with him already. He knows that a deal wasn't signed last year because we want to sign a FA. If we do sign that FA I'm sure the KP extension will come right after. Hell, if we win the lotto I'm sure he'd come back just for that. the money is just too much to leave on the table, so things will probably have to be really bad for him to actually want out.

I actually think he'll be back as well and i'm sure both sides had a good long talk about the future and obviously had a verbal agreement/handshake but who worries me most is his damn brother Janis who's in his head and think all that crap that happened a couple years ago was so much more about Janis being in his head then it was KP.