2018-2019 OKC Thunder Regular Season Pt 1: A Renewed Hope

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Post#2221 » by Pillendreher » Tue Jan 8, 2019 11:36 pm

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"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Post#2222 » by alessandrux » Wed Jan 9, 2019 12:16 am

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One can only hope (at least I do).
Any expiring, especially if this expring could give us some quality minutes, would be amazing.
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Post#2224 » by getrichordie » Wed Jan 9, 2019 5:16 am

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You mean to tell me an off-ball 2-guard with more size on the wing than Schroder is better for the offense? Shocker. Tell me something I don’t know. What do you expect when the 6’1 Schroder is playing out of position?


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Post#2225 » by slick_watts » Wed Jan 9, 2019 5:54 am

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You mean to tell me an off-ball 2-guard with more size on the wing than Schroder is better for the offense? Shocker. Tell me something I don’t know. What do you expect when the 6’1 Schroder is playing out of position?


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are you acknowledging that dennis schroder is a liability next to westbrook? that's a start. you had been an advocate for playing 'our five best players' in the past. that included schroder.

i'll consider this progress.
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Post#2226 » by Pillendreher » Wed Jan 9, 2019 11:12 am

Can we end this Nader nonsense now? He's a scrub that should not see the floor.
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Post#2227 » by spearsy23 » Wed Jan 9, 2019 11:21 am

getrichordie wrote:
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You mean to tell me an off-ball 2-guard with more size on the wing than Schroder is better for the offense? Shocker. Tell me something I don’t know. What do you expect when the 6’1 Schroder is playing out of position?


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How does being 6'1 keep Schroder from doing what Ferg does, which is basically stand in the corner and shoot wide open shots or run in transition?
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#2228 » by Pillendreher » Wed Jan 9, 2019 11:25 am

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You mean to tell me an off-ball 2-guard with more size on the wing than Schroder is better for the offense? Shocker. Tell me something I don’t know. What do you expect when the 6’1 Schroder is playing out of position?


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are you acknowledging that dennis schroder is a liability next to westbrook? that's a start. you had been an advocate for playing 'our five best players' in the past. that included schroder.

i'll consider this progress.


Last two games:

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Starters: 125.6 ORtG | 91.8 DRtG | +33.8 NetRtG | 89 possessions
All the other lineups combined: 93.8 ORtG | 135.1 DRtG | -40.3 NetRtG | 124 possessions
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Post#2229 » by Pillendreher » Wed Jan 9, 2019 2:54 pm

Schröder since missing that one game due to a suspension:

11.4 PPG/3.0 RPG/3.5 APG on 35.9 % from the field, 22.5 % from 3, 64.7 % from the FT line. 41.2 TS%, 85 ORtG. 13.8 NetRtG with him off the court, -5.6 with him on the court. -19.4 On/Off.
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Post#2232 » by Pillendreher » Wed Jan 9, 2019 4:58 pm

Schröder must be in the worst slump in league history:

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Post#2233 » by slick_watts » Wed Jan 9, 2019 5:14 pm

the chart below is the top 150 usage seasons since 1979-80 charted by their usage% and ts% relative to league average. this really puts westbrook's futility into perspective.

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NOT GOOD.
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Post#2234 » by Domejandro » Wed Jan 9, 2019 5:38 pm

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Glad to hear this, that was a brutal fall.
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Post#2235 » by spearsy23 » Wed Jan 9, 2019 5:47 pm

Westbrook's true shooting is basically Hillary's emails for slick.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#2236 » by slick_watts » Wed Jan 9, 2019 5:48 pm

the turnovers and assists narrative for westbrook has completely evaporated. his assists and turnovers per team possession are now virtually the same as last year, with his tov% still a career high. his orb% is lower. he's getting to the line less. his ts% is at "worst since post-merger" levels of futility relative to his usage -- which is also the lowest it has been since his sophomore season.

i'm not sure whether or not schroder or westbrook is a worse problem for this team right now. westbrook is certainly worse relative to my expectations.
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Post#2237 » by getrichordie » Wed Jan 9, 2019 9:12 pm

Pillendreher wrote:Schröder must be in the worst slump in league history:

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The roster is about to experience a shakeup. Schroder is getting traded.


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Post#2238 » by Pillendreher » Wed Jan 9, 2019 9:15 pm

getrichordie wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:Schröder must be in the worst slump in league history:

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The roster is about to experience a shakeup. Schroder is getting traded.


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Thank God. Have you informed the other GM? ;)
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Post#2239 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Jan 9, 2019 9:27 pm

getrichordie wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:Schröder must be in the worst slump in league history:

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The roster is about to experience a shakeup. Schroder is getting traded.


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give us more details about the trade. I'm curious!
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Post#2240 » by slick_watts » Wed Jan 9, 2019 9:37 pm

spearsy23 wrote:Westbrook's true shooting is basically Hillary's emails for slick.


apt analogy. westbrook might be characterized as a criminal in the later years of his current deal if this continues.

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