Regular Season Game 41: Orlando Magic (17-23) at Utah Jazz (20-21)

[basketballRob]

We're weak mentally. No fight. As soon as there is any semblance of pressure we can't get anything going and can't get a shot to drop.

It's becoming a real theme, teams know they can let us build whatever lead we like because they can just turn the pressure up in the second half and we'll fold. It's really frustrating to watch.

On the plus side, liked what I saw from Briscoe and Khem. Hopefully they both get some more minutes moving forward.

Stating the obvious and repeating what many around here have already said, but trades are clearly needed before the deadline whichever path we decide to take.

I think we're physically weak. Like Clifford said, teams can just push us out away from the basket. It's not a lack of offense that we have it's a lack of physical toughness.

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[basketballRob]

Evan Fournier played 37 minutes, scoring a grand total of 1 point, without a field goal, assist, or rebound in those 37 minutes. According to basketball-reference.com, he is only the second player in NBA history, and the first in nearly 57 years, to play at least 37 minutes in a game without any field goals, assists, or rebounds. The only other player to have such a dubious stat line was Guy Rodgers of the Philadelphia Warriors in a game against the St. Louis Hawks on February 22nd, 1962 (Rodgers did make two free throws, though). http://bkref.com/tiny/usJav

Mitchell imposed his physicality on him.

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[Blue_and_Whte]

No, because this team needs him to score more than 20 every game to win... if he did that he'd be a superstar. Is that the bar ya'll have raised for Vuc now? Superstar? There isn't a player on this team that makes the game easier for Vuc... just think about that.

Uhhh, when did 20ppg make someone a superstar? Allstar maybe, but even that’s no guarantee.

Maybe the Magic’s ‘don’t vote for Vuc’ campaign was because he’s not allstar caliber?

He said MORE than 20 WHEN WE NEED IT, which is basically every damn game with this roster since nobody can score consistently except him. If you look at our wins he's basically scoring 25-30 in a lot of them.

Not to mention the points hes responsible for with his passing. Sheesh gets this man a competent team or move him already. Hate to see players easte their careers on terrible teams.

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[Blue_and_Whte]

But isn't Vuc a great scorer? Shouldn't he be able to give us more than 20 when we need it?

Who said that?

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A select few but some are still hellbent on keeping him. I just don't get it. We need to flush most of the roster and rinse the culture.

I don’t see anyone “hellbent” on keeping.

Most recognize that the team can either keep him or move him and the implications of either decision. Matter of fact the only people hellbent on anything are the ones still trying to blame him for our losses despite putting up an all star caliber season. We’ve lacked elite talent and that’s always been the problem. That’s not Niks fault.

[pepe1991]

Evan Fournier played 37 minutes, scoring a grand total of 1 point, without a field goal, assist, or rebound in those 37 minutes. According to basketball-reference.com, he is only the second player in NBA history, and the first in nearly 57 years, to play at least 37 minutes in a game without any field goals, assists, or rebounds. The only other player to have such a dubious stat line was Guy Rodgers of the Philadelphia Warriors in a game against the St. Louis Hawks on February 22nd, 1962 (Rodgers did make two free throws, though). http://bkref.com/tiny/usJav

Mitchell imposed his physicality on him.

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Did Vučević imposed physicality on Gobert ?

[basketballRob]

Evan Fournier played 37 minutes, scoring a grand total of 1 point, without a field goal, assist, or rebound in those 37 minutes. According to basketball-reference.com, he is only the second player in NBA history, and the first in nearly 57 years, to play at least 37 minutes in a game without any field goals, assists, or rebounds. The only other player to have such a dubious stat line was Guy Rodgers of the Philadelphia Warriors in a game against the St. Louis Hawks on February 22nd, 1962 (Rodgers did make two free throws, though). http://bkref.com/tiny/usJav

Mitchell imposed his physicality on him.

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Did Vučević imposed physicality on Gobert ?

Vucevic played fine, Mitchell was too physical for Fournier. He smothered him on defense and went by him at will on offense.



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[basketballRob]

That was the best I ever saw Vucevic play against Gobert.

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[JBSouthpaw]

I thought Briscoe played decent as the backup PG.
Can't believe the team that got outscored 60-30 in the 2nd half is the same that was up by 21 at the end of the 1st.
Not the 1st, or 2nd time this has happened..
you can't blame being tired on a 12 point 3rd Q.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

went to bed at halftime and glad I did.... how the f does this happen? interesting that you see other teams hold a players only meeting after an unacceptable 1/2 or game.. It's been 9 of 12 and there has yet to be mentions of a team meeting.

Break this **** up already FO, IDGAF about sneaking into the playoffs and getting swept to pick 15th and then watch you trade it for 2 2030 2nd rounders.

[Optimus_Steel]

30 2nd half points.....stop with the pretenses this team will never make the playoffs. Trade the free agents and move AG to give Issac and Bamba room, see if they are worth keeping around.

[magicman112]

Well our quitters are right on schedule.

[pepe1991]

went to bed at halftime and glad I did.... how the f does this happen? interesting that you see other teams hold a players only meeting after an unacceptable 1/2 or game.. It's been 9 of 12 and there has yet to be mentions of a team meeting.

Break this **** up already FO, IDGAF about sneaking into the playoffs and getting swept to pick 15th and then watch you trade it for 2 2030 2nd rounders.

THIS .
I was watching Megalodon team was up by 17 or something, i was like " yea, Jazz simply miss too much players" . Woke up and saw -13 . What a hell ?

[Furinkazan]

LMAO just watched and funny thing is I aint even mad.I got used to it.

[Furinkazan]

I hate Terrence Ross's game. His shot selection is so terrible.

He doesnt even know what shot selection is.

[Optimus_Steel]

I hate Terrence Ross's game. His shot selection is so terrible.

He doesnt even know what shot selection is.

Yea but still better than guys like Simmons, Grant, Briscoe, Issac, Bamba, Iwundu jacking up shots...he pretty much has to put up shots lol.

[CajunBall]

I wonder how long Gordon can put up with this. Guy seems to have the work ethic, potential and willingness to become a superstar but the organization just won't hand him the keys. He's been in the league 5 years and has yet to be given a real shot as 'the guy'. Meanwhile it's the same story every season with Fournier and to some extent Vuc leading the team to just enough wins for a mid-level lottery pick. To make matters worse, they keep Fournier to trade both Harris and Oladipo.

[dsg2021]

I wonder how long Gordon can put up with this. Guy seems to have the work ethic, potential and willingness to become a superstar but the organization just won't hand him the keys. He's been in the league 5 years and has yet to be given a real shot as 'the guy'. Meanwhile it's the same story every season with Fournier and to some extent Vuc leading the team to just enough wins for a mid-level lottery pick. To make matters worse, they keep Fournier to trade both Harris and Oladipo.

The only player who attempts more FG's than Aaron is Vooch.. and thank you for flashback-to-the-past post #99,999.

[Optimus_Steel]

I wonder how long Gordon can put up with this. Guy seems to have the work ethic, potential and willingness to become a superstar but the organization just won't hand him the keys. He's been in the league 5 years and has yet to be given a real shot as 'the guy'. Meanwhile it's the same story every season with Fournier and to some extent Vuc leading the team to just enough wins for a mid-level lottery pick. To make matters worse, they keep Fournier to trade both Harris and Oladipo.

You still think he can be a superstar? He does not have the skill set, he can't create offense. Other than jumping high what is he really good at? He tops out as a role player.

[Last Guardian]

I wonder how long Gordon can put up with this. Guy seems to have the work ethic, potential and willingness to become a superstar but the organization just won't hand him the keys. He's been in the league 5 years and has yet to be given a real shot as 'the guy'. Meanwhile it's the same story every season with Fournier and to some extent Vuc leading the team to just enough wins for a mid-level lottery pick. To make matters worse, they keep Fournier to trade both Harris and Oladipo.

His attempts to create his own offense has been ugly his entire career, I wouldn't have high hopes for him as the guy. But, I support it anyway, since the team needs to pick a direction.

[drsd]

Evan Fournier played 37 minutes, scoring a grand total of 1 point, without a field goal, assist, or rebound in those 37 minutes. According to basketball-reference.com, he is only the second player in NBA history, and the first in nearly 57 years, to play at least 37 minutes in a game without any field goals, assists, or rebounds. The only other player to have such a dubious stat line was Guy Rodgers of the Philadelphia Warriors in a game against the St. Louis Hawks on February 22nd, 1962 (Rodgers did make two free throws, though). http://bkref.com/tiny/usJav

The odd thing was that Fournier was one of the few Magicians with a positive +/- stat line. Really odd.

How can a player with an ineffective stat line playing heavy minutes be the only positive force on a team ????

Strange.