Wizards 2019 Draft thread. (Tank for Zion, or OTHER NAME HERE)

[Shoe]

R.J. is a Joe Johnson that thinks he's a James Harden. Joe's career 20/4/4 seems right for Barrett. JJ was relaxed though while RJ looks more aggressive, although Oubre is considered aggressive too.

Bruno Fernando looks like a Clint Capella, but could actually be a Bismack Biyombo/Meyers Leonard.

Hachimura is hopefully Aldridge, and not some Vonleh.

Charles Bassey is Miles Bass. Or Kenneth Faried. Very good early flash, then flame out candidate.

These are my observations from watching 2 minute highlights on You tube. Guaranteed 3 of the players in this draft are going to be all Stars. Zion then whom else is the question

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

So question for everyone.

How good would the 2019-20 Wizards be if they got lucky and landed Zion, kept Wall, Beal & Porter and re-signed Sato & Bryant?

How far away would we be from competing for a spot in the Finals?

They'd need a lesser ball dominant backcourt and the lead guard would need to defend better than Wall does.

Zion would make the Wizards a 55-60 win team pretty much right away.1

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

So question for everyone.

How good would the 2019-20 Wizards be if they got lucky and landed Zion, kept Wall, Beal & Porter and re-signed Sato & Bryant?

How far away would we be from competing for a spot in the Finals?

Championship contender within 2 years.

Not if Wall never recovers to be the player he was in 2016. If Wall continues to look like the player of this year and last year, then the team is merely a 2nd round finalist until Wall can be replaced.

Wall would need to devote himself to being a pure set-up man who is content to have the 4th highest shot total on the team while devoting his energy to pushing the pace, rebounding, and defense. Wall would have to try and emulate Jason Kidd, not Russell Westbrook. The Wall we know will end up taking too many low efficiency shots that should have gone to Porter or Zion.

I agree 100%.

They'd be better with Tony Parker and a young guard like Trey Jones than with broken Wall .

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

What a great job you guys are doing analyzing & prepping for this draft! I'm impressed. I hope to hell someone in Wizards FO is paying attention: you guys might save their jobs!!

We haven't yet. The past eight drafts we have been as good or better but Ernie has done his bad things.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

A couple of non-Zion guys that I like so far, in no particular order.

Ja Morant
Jarrett Culver
Shamorie Ponds
Tyrese Haliburton
Kevin Porter

Morant is a beast at both ends. Culver's team keeps winning and he does it all at both ends. Ponds is a can't miss, future starting NBA PG.

I'm not familiar with the others but those three are solid

[Ruzious]

A couple of non-Zion guys that I like so far, in no particular order.

Ja Morant
Jarrett Culver
Shamorie Ponds
Tyrese Haliburton
Kevin Porter

Morant is a beast at both ends. Culver's team keeps winning and he does it all at both ends. Ponds is a can't miss, future starting NBA PG.

I'm not familiar with the others but those three are solid

I need to study up on the others, but if Culver develops a 3 point shot, he's an all-star. He does everything else.

[daSwami]

So question for everyone.

How good would the 2019-20 Wizards be if they got lucky and landed Zion, kept Wall, Beal & Porter and re-signed Sato & Bryant?

How far away would we be from competing for a spot in the Finals?

Still 2-3 seasons away, especially if Brooks is still the coach.

[Kanyewest]

A prospect that has appeared in the early 2nd in some mocks Paschall has looked solid. Over the last 4 games (3 in conference play plus one game against a former conference rival), he's averaging 20 ppg, 8 rpg, 2.33 APG while shooting 50% from 3 (granted in 38 minutes per game). His 2 point percentage is down for the season, from 64% last season to 50 % this season although that has to do with the fact that he's a primary option and could do better in a smaller role.

LeBron James on Paschallo last season.

"That one kid, No. 4, I call him 'Baby Millsap,' Paschall, I call him Baby (Paul) Millsap. Listen, he's a matchup problem.”

[pancakes3]

i still don't really get the zion hype. he can't shoot, so where are you going to play him? undersized PF? the last hyperathlete who couldn't shoot that panned out is... Blake Griffin? and he's 6'10.

i'd be much happier with a guy like deandre hunter from UVa, a legit 6'7 with good athleticism and 3 point range.

[nate33]

i still don't really get the zion hype. he can't shoot, so where are you going to play him? undersized PF? the last hyperathlete who couldn't shoot that panned out is... Blake Griffin? and he's 6'10.

Indeed. Blake Griffin is a reasonably good comparison. Griffin peaked as maybe the 3rd best player in the league. Zion is considerably more athletic than Griffin and has better ball handling ability. Also, Griffin was merely a 59% FT shooter after his sophomore season in college. Zion is a 70% shooter halfway through his freshman year. That's good reason to believe he'll pan out to be a better shooter.

I'd be more worried about Zion if he was the type who didn't work that hard and relied on his physical gifts to carry him. By all accounts, that does not appear to be the case. Dude is an extremely hard worker, very open to coaching, and he wants to be great. In general, if you can get a once-in-a-generation physical talent who also has great work habits and drive, you take him.

[Ruzious]

i still don't really get the zion hype. he can't shoot, so where are you going to play him? undersized PF? the last hyperathlete who couldn't shoot that panned out is... Blake Griffin? and he's 6'10.

i'd be much happier with a guy like deandre hunter from UVa, a legit 6'7 with good athleticism and 3 point range.

I like Hunter a lot, but... no. You have to think it through - Why are Zion's stats so much better than anyone else's -in both production and efficiency - and in comparison to his highly heralded teammates? Why was Charles Barkley a great player? If Zion's really going to have trouble defending in the NBA, why are his college defensive stats so good? At 280ish lbs, does it make sense to call him under-sized - especially when he's extremely athletic at that weight?

[Ruzious]

R.J. is a Joe Johnson that thinks he's a James Harden. Joe's career 20/4/4 seems right for Barrett. JJ was relaxed though while RJ looks more aggressive, although Oubre is considered aggressive too.

Bruno Fernando looks like a Clint Capella, but could actually be a Bismack Biyombo/Meyers Leonard.

Hachimura is hopefully Aldridge, and not some Vonleh.

Charles Bassey is Miles Bass. Or Kenneth Faried. Very good early flash, then flame out candidate.

These are my observations from watching 2 minute highlights on You tube. Guaranteed 3 of the players in this draft are going to be all Stars. Zion then whom else is the question

I'd be fine with an all-Gonzaga draft of Rui H (ist round) and Brandon Clarke (2nd) - Rui as the go-to guy on offense and Clarke as the junkyard dog - yapping away on defense and putting in the scraps on offense.

Rui's definitely not Vonleh - he's much more of an alpha type on offense, while Vonleh's somewhat passive. But he's not a 7 footer like Aldridge. If I had to compare him to someone - it'd probably be to a young Millsap - perhaps more offensive-oriented and less of a rebounder.

[Ruzious]

A couple of non-Zion guys that I like so far, in no particular order.

Ja Morant
Jarrett Culver
Shamorie Ponds
Tyrese Haliburton
Kevin Porter

Morant is a beast at both ends. Culver's team keeps winning and he does it all at both ends. Ponds is a can't miss, future starting NBA PG.

I'm not familiar with the others but those three are solid

I see Morant's ranked #2 on NBAdraft.net. I think of him more as a late lotto talent. Fox seems like a good comp for him, but Ja doesn't look as strong. And while he's got a ton of assists, he's also got a ton of turnovers and hasn't developed 3 point range. Again, I think he's a good prospect - just not the high lotto prospect people think he is. I think my guy - Garland - will be a better team-oriented PG. I gotta check out Ponds - who certainly has great stats.

[Illmatic12]

Outside of Zion, I'm not terribly impressed with this draft class .
Is this the weakest draft ever for frontcourt talent? Where are all the high ceiling PF/C prospects?

[pancakes3]

i think bruno's being underrated in this draft, and i would extend a camp invite to FSU's Koumadje, and stash him on the go-go's. he's the most fluid 7'4 player i think i've ever seen.

[Ruzious]

Outside of Zion, I'm not terribly impressed with this draft class .
Is this the weakest draft ever for frontcourt talent? Where are all the high ceiling PF/C prospects?

Good question. To borrow part of pancake's post, Maryland might lose 2 bigs in the lotto - Bruno and Sticks Smith. A freshman to keep an eye on is 6'11 Jaxson Hayes from Texas. He's shooting 74.7% from the field and is big-time shot-blocker, but hes played only 21 minutes a game and can't stay out of foul trouble.

[Ruzious]

R.J. is a Joe Johnson that thinks he's a James Harden. Joe's career 20/4/4 seems right for Barrett. JJ was relaxed though while RJ looks more aggressive, although Oubre is considered aggressive too.

Bruno Fernando looks like a Clint Capella, but could actually be a Bismack Biyombo/Meyers Leonard.

Hachimura is hopefully Aldridge, and not some Vonleh.

Charles Bassey is Miles Bass. Or Kenneth Faried. Very good early flash, then flame out candidate.

These are my observations from watching 2 minute highlights on You tube. Guaranteed 3 of the players in this draft are going to be all Stars. Zion then whom else is the question

I'd be fine with an all-Gonzaga draft of Rui H (ist round) and Brandon Clarke (2nd) - Rui as the go-to guy on offense and Clarke as the junkyard dog - yapping away on defense and putting in the scraps on offense.

Rui's definitely not Vonleh - he's much more of an alpha type on offense, while Vonleh's somewhat passive. But he's not a 7 footer like Aldridge. If I had to compare him to someone - it'd probably be to a young Millsap - perhaps more offensive-oriented and less of a rebounder.

Clarke had his second straight 5 blocks and 2 steals game. He's averaging 3.4 blocks and 1.6 steals a game in 28 minutes per game - that's crazy. And it's not like he doesn't do anything on offense - he's averaging 16.6 points per game - making 69% of his FGA's. And 3.2 offensive rebounds per game.

[nate33]

R.J. is a Joe Johnson that thinks he's a James Harden. Joe's career 20/4/4 seems right for Barrett. JJ was relaxed though while RJ looks more aggressive, although Oubre is considered aggressive too.

Bruno Fernando looks like a Clint Capella, but could actually be a Bismack Biyombo/Meyers Leonard.

Hachimura is hopefully Aldridge, and not some Vonleh.

Charles Bassey is Miles Bass. Or Kenneth Faried. Very good early flash, then flame out candidate.

These are my observations from watching 2 minute highlights on You tube. Guaranteed 3 of the players in this draft are going to be all Stars. Zion then whom else is the question

I'd be fine with an all-Gonzaga draft of Rui H (ist round) and Brandon Clarke (2nd) - Rui as the go-to guy on offense and Clarke as the junkyard dog - yapping away on defense and putting in the scraps on offense.

Rui's definitely not Vonleh - he's much more of an alpha type on offense, while Vonleh's somewhat passive. But he's not a 7 footer like Aldridge. If I had to compare him to someone - it'd probably be to a young Millsap - perhaps more offensive-oriented and less of a rebounder.

Clarke had his second straight 5 blocks and 2 steals game. He's averaging 3.4 blocks and 1.6 steals a game in 28 minutes per game - that's crazy. And it's not like he doesn't do anything on offense - he's averaging 16.6 points per game - making 69% of his FGA's. And 3.2 offensive rebounds per game.

This website has a very positive scouting report on Clarke.

He strikes me as a guy who could pan out to be a do-everything power forward with great switchability and team defense instincts. He's in the Draymond Green/Pascal Siakam type of mold but a little too small to play any serious minutes at center. It's interesting how he totally remade his shot last season. That 63% FT% may climb pretty quickly as he has only been shooting with that form for half of a season. He missed 12 of his first 23 FT's of the season, but since then has gone 38/56 (70%). Most players who shoot 70% or better from the line typically have the potential to at least competent as an outside shooter.

I'd be pretty happy if we could trade Ariza for a 2nd round pick high enough to draft him.

[Dat2U]

i still don't really get the zion hype. he can't shoot, so where are you going to play him? undersized PF? the last hyperathlete who couldn't shoot that panned out is... Blake Griffin? and he's 6'10.

i'd be much happier with a guy like deandre hunter from UVa, a legit 6'7 with good athleticism and 3 point range.

How is he undersized PF at 285 lb? He's coming into the NBA as the 2nd heaviest player in the league only behid Boban Marjanovic!

Giannis can't shoot. Boy he sucks doesn't he?

Ben Simmons won't shoot. Boy he sucks too.

Both of them are freaks of nature. Zion is the same way, the difference is they have length and athleticism while Zion has power and athleticism. Comparing Zion to Blake is a disservice to what Zion has done thus far. The highest recorded PER and BPM on record for a Division college prospect!

The NBA is about mismatches and Zion is a walking mismatch at ANY position. The hype is real bro.

[Dat2U]

A couple of non-Zion guys that I like so far, in no particular order.

Ja Morant
Jarrett Culver
Shamorie Ponds
Tyrese Haliburton
Kevin Porter

Morant is a beast at both ends. Culver's team keeps winning and he does it all at both ends. Ponds is a can't miss, future starting NBA PG.

I'm not familiar with the others but those three are solid

I see Morant's ranked #2 on NBAdraft.net. I think of him more as a late lotto talent. Fox seems like a good comp for him, but Ja doesn't look as strong. And while he's got a ton of assists, he's also got a ton of turnovers and hasn't developed 3 point range. Again, I think he's a good prospect - just not the high lotto prospect people think he is. I think my guy - Garland - will be a better team-oriented PG. I gotta check out Ponds - who certainly has great stats.

At this stage, I like Morant more than I do R.J. Barrett and it comes down to decision making and selfishness. Both are high level athletes. Morant hass the Wall, Westbrook athletic type traits desired for the position. Morant is of course rough around the edges but the athleticism, aggression and confidence are what you want in a lead guard.

I have will have to check out Garland online to get a better feel for him.