Nikola Jokić and best Bigmen passers of all time

Sgt Major · Post #301 » by **Sgt Major** » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:40 am

also this

Kabookalu · Post #302 » by **Kabookalu** » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:43 am

That pass has to be frontrunner for best pass of the year no debate. The guy was already in the middle of throwing it full court before he even fully knew where Murray was. One handed no less, so he didn't even have 100% control of the ball.

Unbelievable.

manou · Post #303 » by **manou** » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:45 am

Beautiful.

Sark · Post #304 » by **Sark** » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:02 am

kinggnik87 wrote:As of this moment, he is already the top 3 big men passer in the NBA. Once he plays for 10 or more years and still maintain this level of play, then he is definitely THE BEST NBA passer ever. Let's just enjoy the ride guys and be a fan of basketball for the next 10+ years.

Best passer ever? :noway:

LuDux1 · Post #305 » by **LuDux1** » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:27 am

Is there a correlation between being GBMP and late growth spurts? Sabonis was (point?)guard, Jokic was swingman*, what about Walton, Webber etc?

*https://sports.yahoo.com/nuggets-rookie-nikola-jokic-s-passport-photo-is-pretty-great-031959817.html

Stribor · Post #306 » by **Stribor** » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:39 am

best Bigmen passer:
1. Jokic
2. Sabonis
3. Divac (or Walton)

best Bigmen passer
1. Wilt
2. Walton
3. Jokic

Sgt Major · Post #307 » by **Sgt Major** » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:24 pm

Never forget

stoo · Post #308 » by **stoo** » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:38 pm

Pachinko_ wrote:
TheFire wrote:

Watch on YouTube

The Joker at it again and further cementing his case. What the hell
Amazing pass, Murray travelled though.

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murray did not travel... it is high time to judge movements by the rules league where player is playing defines, not some other league. simplier, this is nba, not some european league

Ryoga Hibiki · Post #309 » by **Ryoga Hibiki** » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:57 pm

Dez wrote:Are we talking just centers?

If we're talking "big men" I'd still regard Magic Johnson at 6'9 as a big man who was just able to play a guard position.

Vision and ability to deliver passes Jokic is just as good as Magic, just Magic had the ability to drive that Jokic doesn't have that could open for other opportunities.

Sactowndog · Post #310 » by **Sactowndog** » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:32 pm

Mickey8 wrote:What separates him from other great big men passers , is that he passes the ball like the most creative point guards who ever played basketball , he can make every possible pass from any angle, he's just born with that kind of talenat, you can't teach that skill .

Some of it is his hands. If you can handle the ball with one hand it increases the angle and speed. Jokic can do it as can Giles. See Giles at :46 in this mix tape....

Watch on YouTube

Sgt Major · Post #311 » by **Sgt Major** » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:38 pm

Nothing beats this one:

Watch on YouTube

Dan Z · Post #312 » by **Dan Z** » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:32 pm

Pachinko_ wrote:
TheFire wrote:

Watch on YouTube

The Joker at it again and further cementing his case. What the hell
Amazing pass, Murray travelled though.

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leolozon · Post #313 » by **leolozon** » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:52 pm

Sgt Major wrote:also this

Watch on YouTube

I don't know why more players don't do this. He should be credited an assist on this.

Egg Nog · Post #314 » by **Egg Nog** » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:54 pm

Ryoga Hibiki wrote:Vision and ability to deliver passes Jokic is just as good as Magic

Uh, no.

...and for what it's worth, Jokic is one of my favorite players ever. I think he's quite possibly the best-passing center in league history.

As good of a passer as Magic Johnson? Hell no.

TheBonzaiEffect · Post #315 » by **TheBonzaiEffect** » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:58 pm

leolozon wrote:
Sgt Major wrote:also this

Watch on YouTube

I don't know why more players don't do this. He should be credited an assist on this.

Because it's a self-pass and should be a turnover. Technically, that's a "shot." And you can't rebound/touch your own miss if it doesn't touch the rim.

leolozon · Post #316 » by **leolozon** » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:06 pm

TheBonzaiEffect wrote:
leolozon wrote:
Sgt Major wrote:also this

Watch on YouTube

I don't know why more players don't do this. He should be credited an assist on this.

Because it's a self-pass and should be a turnover. Technically, that's a "shot." And you can't rebound/touch your own miss if it doesn't touch the rim.

SO that was a TO that wasn't call? Kobe used to do that and was never called for it. There must be something in the rules. I wonder why the refs don't call it.

I don't quite see the harm in that type of play, but maybe if every player did it it would be obvious why it's a problem.

Post #317 » by **zimpy27** » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:08 pm

Hardly any US big men make the list, potentially speaks about the difference in basketball player development between the US and Europe.

Pachinko_ · Post #318 » by **Pachinko_** » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:15 pm

stoo wrote:
Pachinko_ wrote:
TheFire wrote:

Watch on YouTube

The Joker at it again and further cementing his case. What the hell
Amazing pass, Murray travelled though.

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murray did not travel... it is high time to judge movements by the rules league where player is playing defines, not some other league. simplier, this is nba, not some european league

show me the rule that says you can take 3 steps without dribbling.

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KeithCozart · Post #319 » by **KeithCozart** » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:38 pm

That was a travel from Murray.

Watch on YouTube

Mickey8 · Post #320 » by **Mickey8** » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:23 pm

Egg Nog wrote:
Ryoga Hibiki wrote:Vision and ability to deliver passes Jokic is just as good as Magic

Uh, no.

...and for what it's worth, Jokic is one of my favorite players ever. I think he's quite possibly the best-passing center in league history.

As good of a passer as Magic Johnson? Hell no.

Magic was the best passer at his position, Jokic is at his in modern basketball , Jokic is pulling out difficult passes effortlessly ala Magic Johnson , I am giving the edge to Magic but Jokic is in that mold , I think greatest passer of all time was Maravich.

Who is GOAT passing bigman?