PG Thread: Excellent loss

Post #41 » by **K_ick_God** » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:47 pm

The thing Frank misses, and you can see why Mudiay entices Fiz, is being able to dribble around and take a shot from anywhere. And Mudiay is still young but I just don't see him getting there. Too mistake prone and not really a PG in distribution.

Frank is not going to be able to dribble out and in and get his shot. Mudiay can do that and props to him, but he misses a lot currently.

Not sure what to say - right now Frank is dribble in or shoot from deep mostly. He's also developing his in-between some. If you're looking for a guy who will be able to take shots from anywhere on the court then maybe he's not your guy.

Some very effective PGs have been able to run the team, hit some shots, and be hard to stop at the basket. Having a lot of shots in your repertoire ... can be overrated if you're not making them. Again, JR didn't create shots as a Knick so much as create misses.

Frank plays D, passes, has intangibles, and I think he'll develop the other components. Only the best PGs can also keep the ball on a string and move in and out. The fact that Mudiay can do that IS impressive. But he does a lot of stuff that is not impressive at all - namely missing, bad D, and stupid plays. He'll get smarter and better if he sticks with it but it feels to me like he's just amping up to get some kind of check.

There's no way you should keep him.

AllanHoustonFan · Post #42 » by **AllanHoustonFan** » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:48 pm

DE FENSE wrote:
AllanHoustonFan wrote:Anyone got a clip of that Knox stepback on Embiid people are talking about? I missed like 60% of the game.

Just imagine a Harden step back three but with a Klingon doing it.

Side beard · Post #43 » by **Side beard** » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:49 pm

Watch on YouTube

BadNewsBarnes · Post #44 » by **BadNewsBarnes** » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:49 pm

OT: No Butt Becca is really red today...

F N 11 · Post #45 » by **F N 11** » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:50 pm

Knox in rythm with Frank hmmmmmm. Also u can tell Knox was feeling it I saw the first celebration.

Frank
Kp
Knox
Mitch
Free agent
19 pick
Trier

Slowly but surely!!!! I hate to say it but “trust the process”

Zenzibar · Post #46 » by **Zenzibar** » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:51 pm

With a top 4 pick (thank you Phil) and KP back, with tons of money (thank you Scott P), we are shaping up nicely.

AllanHoustonFan · Post #47 » by **AllanHoustonFan** » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:51 pm

Side beard wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Jah Bless

Cookies4Life · Post #48 » by **Cookies4Life** » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:52 pm

KnicksGod wrote:The thing Frank misses, and you can see why Mudiay entices Fiz, is being able to dribble around and take a shot from anywhere. And Mudiay is still young but I just don't see him getting there. Too mistake prone and not really a PG in distribution.

Frank is not going to be able to dribble out and in and get his shot. Mudiay can do that and props to him, but he misses a lot currently.

Not sure what to say - right now Frank is dribble in or shoot from deep mostly. He's also developing his in-between some. If you're looking for a guy who will be able to take shots from anywhere on the court then maybe he's not your guy.

Some very effective PGs have been able to run the team, hit some shots, and be hard to stop at the basket. Having a lot of shots in your repertoire ... can be overrated if you're not making them. Again, JR didn't create shots as a Knick so much as create misses.

Frank plays D, passes, has intangibles, and I think he'll develop the other components. Only the best PGs can also keep the ball on a string and move in and out. The fact that Mudiay can do that IS impressive. But he does a lot of stuff that is not impressive at all - namely missing, bad D, and stupid plays. He'll get smarter and better if he sticks with it but it feels to me like he's just amping up to get some kind of check.

There's no way you should keep him.

I disagree. He just needs more reps on the court and continue to develop little bits offensively every offseason.

He's not slow and his first step has looked like it's improved from last year. He did have a spin around jumper in the lane that went in and out.

His ballhandling and his first step have definitely improved since last season. If he can start knocking down his 3 point shot with more consistency than it'll open up the midrange area for him even more.

He did a great job tonight distributing the ball. My big knock on him is he has the momentary mental lapses on offense where he telegraphs his passes a bit too often. He didn't have that issue at all today, he made the right reads and exhibited a good level of court vision.

I have faith in him and think he has the chance to be a special player. His situation is unique given his background so I'm going a much more patient route with him than most I guess.

Oscirus · Post #49 » by **Oscirus** » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:52 pm

That wasn't just over Embid but also with Reddick coming at him.

F N 11 · Post #50 » by **F N 11** » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:53 pm

The way Fizdale drools and acknowledges other teams star players it should be tampering lol.

Post #51 » by **Thugger HBC** » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:53 pm

Fiz trolling now. :lol:

Garbagelo · Post #52 » by **Garbagelo** » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:54 pm

Addition by subtraction

A little more subtraction and we become bearable

Been saying it since last year

You know it

GEOLINK · Post #53 » by **GEOLINK** » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:55 pm

Side beard wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Harden 3 @ 2:25 was beautiful.

Strick · Post #54 » by **Strick** » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:55 pm

Frank used his length a lot better today when finishing around the rim. That is good to see, because that is a serious advantage for him. Had some tough rolls, could have easily had 6-8 more points. Hopefully can build off of this

TheGreenArrow · Post #55 » by **TheGreenArrow** » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:55 pm

AllanHoustonFan wrote:Anyone got a clip of that Knox stepback on Embiid people are talking about? I missed like 60% of the game.

Read on Twitter

He definitely was the harden stepback!!!

Knox is going to be special folks!!!!!!!

AllanHoustonFan · Post #56 » by **AllanHoustonFan** » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:55 pm

Is it okay to say the Knicks got it right by selecting Knox yet?

zappafrank · Post #57 » by **zappafrank** » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:56 pm

so they executed the FT miss well? where was the spacing - there was enough time for a quick pass + shot. ugh

Iron Mantis · Post #58 » by **Iron Mantis** » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:57 pm

Triple C wrote:

Read on Twitter

Among elite company 8-)

AllanHoustonFan · Post #59 » by **AllanHoustonFan** » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:57 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:
AllanHoustonFan wrote:Anyone got a clip of that Knox stepback on Embiid people are talking about? I missed like 60% of the game.

Read on Twitter

He definitely was the harden stepback!!!

Knox is going to be special folks!!!!!!!

Not even Curry gets away with that t̶r̶a̶v̶e̶l̶ stepback

F N 11 · Post #60 » by **F N 11** » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:58 pm

Through the losses Fizdale sure points out the positives and daily improvement. Definitely not a win now coach. Perfect for us.