PG Thread: Excellent loss

[JBreezeNY]

Volume scorer is one of the more bizarre terms thrown around these days. Like, I got an insult for guys that score a lot like that's not the **** point of the game.

Scoring without context is meaningless. Anyone can score a lot if they take enough shots. The key to scoring is the rate that the shots go in. The Knicks, as a a team, struggle immensely with efficiency. It's why they're bad.

Most people hated Melo for this reason...but love Knox and KP who are both doing their best to immitate him.

If the goal was to move towards more effective and efficient scoring then this is not the answer.

People will point to PG...which is the same issue as before.

Well the big difference is both are younger and both are at least moldable.

Is there hypocrisy? Sure but I’m not sure this is the battle worth dying on a hill for.

[BKlutch]

Volume scorer is one of the more bizarre terms thrown around these days. Like, I got an insult for guys that score a lot like that's not the **** point of the game.

Scoring without context is meaningless. Anyone can score a lot if they take enough shots. The key to scoring is the rate that the shots go in. The Knicks, as a a team, struggle immensely with efficiency. It's why they're bad.

Most people hated Melo for this reason...but love Knox and KP who are both doing their best to immitate him.

If the goal was to move towards more effective and efficient scoring then this is not the answer.

People will point to PG...which is the same issue as before.

This is totally wrong. Neither Knox nor KP is trying to emulate Melo. They have very different styles. Tonight, when Knox scored 31, his one game TS% was 63. I'm sure nobody groaned while he slowed down the offense and held the ball, only to shoot against a double team. Do you even watch the games? It's amazing to see you saying this.

Who else thinks that Knox's game was an attempt to imitate Melo?

[mrpoetryNmotion]

Knox is going to be a problem when he finishes growing and adds some bulk to his frame.

There is something unorthodox about the way he drives to the bucket but it has certainly been effective

[BKlutch]

Mama has no time for Embid's foolishness

Read on Twitter

embiid is kinda a d-bag

Just kinda?

[robillionaire]

y’all drool over tatum but he’s never dropped 30 in a game.

Tatum played big in the playoffs. Kevin Knox has yet to play in a significant NBA game with actual pressure.

Kevin Knox plays in New York. Every game has pressure.

[robillionaire]

Scoring without context is meaningless. Anyone can score a lot if they take enough shots. The key to scoring is the rate that the shots go in. The Knicks, as a a team, struggle immensely with efficiency. It's why they're bad.

Most people hated Melo for this reason...but love Knox and KP who are both doing their best to immitate him.

If the goal was to move towards more effective and efficient scoring then this is not the answer.

People will point to PG...which is the same issue as before.

This is totally wrong. Neither Knox nor KP is trying to emulate Melo. They have very different styles. Tonight, when Knox scored 31, his one game TS% was 63. I'm sure nobody groaned while he slowed down the offense and held the ball, only to shoot against a double team. Do you even watch the games? It's amazing to see you saying this.

Who else thinks that Knox's game was an attempt to imitate Melo?

We don't need to talk about you-know-who anymore. This is 2019. Just scroll past the bait.

[Capn'O]

Scoring without context is meaningless. Anyone can score a lot if they take enough shots. The key to scoring is the rate that the shots go in. The Knicks, as a a team, struggle immensely with efficiency. It's why they're bad.

Most people hated Melo for this reason...but love Knox and KP who are both doing their best to immitate him.

If the goal was to move towards more effective and efficient scoring then this is not the answer.

People will point to PG...which is the same issue as before.

Well the big difference is both are younger and both are at least moldable.

Is there hypocrisy? Sure but I’m not sure this is the battle worth dying on a hill for.

Spoken like a man that knows a hill when he sees one



I would say both KP and Knox tend to get their shots up quickly and in flow but do need to figure out how to be more efficient and become better distributors.

We do need a better PG. Of note - no surprise Knox's breakout comes with Hardaway out and Frank back. Ball stops sticking and things happen.

[Capn'O]

Most people hated Melo for this reason...but love Knox and KP who are both doing their best to immitate him.

If the goal was to move towards more effective and efficient scoring then this is not the answer.

People will point to PG...which is the same issue as before.

This is totally wrong. Neither Knox nor KP is trying to emulate Melo. They have very different styles. Tonight, when Knox scored 31, his one game TS% was 63. I'm sure nobody groaned while he slowed down the offense and held the ball, only to shoot against a double team. Do you even watch the games? It's amazing to see you saying this.

Who else thinks that Knox's game was an attempt to imitate Melo?

We don't need to talk about you-know-who anymore. This is 2019. Just scroll past the bait.

Spoken like a man who knows a hill when he sees one...

[Oscirus]

Scoring without context is meaningless. Anyone can score a lot if they take enough shots. The key to scoring is the rate that the shots go in. The Knicks, as a a team, struggle immensely with efficiency. It's why they're bad.

Most people hated Melo for this reason...but love Knox and KP who are both doing their best to immitate him.

If the goal was to move towards more effective and efficient scoring then this is not the answer.

People will point to PG...which is the same issue as before.

Well the big difference is both are younger and both are at least moldable.

Is there hypocrisy? Sure but I’m not sure this is the battle worth dying on a hill for.

Wouldnt even call it hycall it hypocrisy, Melo came to us a franchise player at the top of his game, more was expected of him than a rookie or a third year player. Not to mention the offense didn't stop in either of their hands. Is it fair to say more will be expected of KP when he returns? sure, as it should. As of now, I'm happy where Knox is at with his stage of development and what he says in interviews.

[Greenie]

Scoring without context is meaningless. Anyone can score a lot if they take enough shots. The key to scoring is the rate that the shots go in. The Knicks, as a a team, struggle immensely with efficiency. It's why they're bad.

Most people hated Melo for this reason...but love Knox and KP who are both doing their best to immitate him.

If the goal was to move towards more effective and efficient scoring then this is not the answer.

People will point to PG...which is the same issue as before.

Well the big difference is both are younger and both are at least moldable.

Is there hypocrisy? Sure but I’m not sure this is the battle worth dying on a hill for.

I’m not even on a hill. Calling **** how I see it.

Knox is not efficient.

Say different. You can’t.

KP is not efficient.

Say different. You can’t.


That’s what BG is pointing out and I thoroughly agree with his premise since it’s one that he stays consistent with.


Either you want efficient players or you don’t.

No hill. No bait. Simple truth. People don’t like when weaknesses that are glaring are pointed out about players on a 10 win team. That’s stupidity.

The only poster even trying to address the efficiency argument is Cap. Problem is that this same argument has been had since Jason Kidd retired. Do you have faith that we will finally go get a PG to control these scorers we have? I don’t and Zion is not a PG. We need players who don’t need a PG.

[Thugger HBC]

Scoring without context is meaningless. Anyone can score a lot if they take enough shots. The key to scoring is the rate that the shots go in. The Knicks, as a a team, struggle immensely with efficiency. It's why they're bad.

Most people hated Melo for this reason...but love Knox and KP who are both doing their best to immitate him.

If the goal was to move towards more effective and efficient scoring then this is not the answer.

People will point to PG...which is the same issue as before.

This is totally wrong. Neither Knox nor KP is trying to emulate Melo. They have very different styles. Tonight, when Knox scored 31, his one game TS% was 63. I'm sure nobody groaned while he slowed down the offense and held the ball, only to shoot against a double team. Do you even watch the games? It's amazing to see you saying this.

Who else thinks that Knox's game was an attempt to imitate Melo?

I for one don't think so. Knox plays more like Durant, the person Knox has admitted on record is his idol. Even noted this earlier in the thread. Now Knox has had dialogue with Bernard King, but I wouldn't say he's patterned his game after him. I see no Melo at all.

[Greenie]

Most people hated Melo for this reason...but love Knox and KP who are both doing their best to immitate him.

If the goal was to move towards more effective and efficient scoring then this is not the answer.

People will point to PG...which is the same issue as before.

This is totally wrong. Neither Knox nor KP is trying to emulate Melo. They have very different styles. Tonight, when Knox scored 31, his one game TS% was 63. I'm sure nobody groaned while he slowed down the offense and held the ball, only to shoot against a double team. Do you even watch the games? It's amazing to see you saying this.

Who else thinks that Knox's game was an attempt to imitate Melo?

I for one don't think so. Knox plays more like Durant, the person Knox has admitted on record is his idol. Even noted this earlier in the thread. Now Knox has had dialogue with Bernard King, but I wouldn't say he's patterned his game after him. I see no Melo at all.

I’m talking efficient scoring.

Not style of play.

I don’t see KD either.

[Thugger HBC]

This is totally wrong. Neither Knox nor KP is trying to emulate Melo. They have very different styles. Tonight, when Knox scored 31, his one game TS% was 63. I'm sure nobody groaned while he slowed down the offense and held the ball, only to shoot against a double team. Do you even watch the games? It's amazing to see you saying this.

Who else thinks that Knox's game was an attempt to imitate Melo?

I for one don't think so. Knox plays more like Durant, the person Knox has admitted on record is his idol. Even noted this earlier in the thread. Now Knox has had dialogue with Bernard King, but I wouldn't say he's patterned his game after him. I see no Melo at all.

I’m talking efficient scoring.

Not style of play.

I don’t see KD either.

So every inefficient shot is a Melo shot? Cool. Now move on.

[robillionaire]

This is totally wrong. Neither Knox nor KP is trying to emulate Melo. They have very different styles. Tonight, when Knox scored 31, his one game TS% was 63. I'm sure nobody groaned while he slowed down the offense and held the ball, only to shoot against a double team. Do you even watch the games? It's amazing to see you saying this.

Who else thinks that Knox's game was an attempt to imitate Melo?

I for one don't think so. Knox plays more like Durant, the person Knox has admitted on record is his idol. Even noted this earlier in the thread. Now Knox has had dialogue with Bernard King, but I wouldn't say he's patterned his game after him. I see no Melo at all.

I’m talking efficient scoring.

Not style of play.

I don’t see KD either.

Kanter is a really efficient scorer, is this the type of player we should be building around or can we get a Kobe

[GEOLINK]

I for one don't think so. Knox plays more like Durant, the person Knox has admitted on record is his idol. Even noted this earlier in the thread. Now Knox has had dialogue with Bernard King, but I wouldn't say he's patterned his game after him. I see no Melo at all.

I’m talking efficient scoring.

Not style of play.

I don’t see KD either.

Kanter is a really efficient scorer, is this the type of player we should be building around

"Howdy dere!"

[Greenie]

I for one don't think so. Knox plays more like Durant, the person Knox has admitted on record is his idol. Even noted this earlier in the thread. Now Knox has had dialogue with Bernard King, but I wouldn't say he's patterned his game after him. I see no Melo at all.

I’m talking efficient scoring.

Not style of play.

I don’t see KD either.

Kanter is a really efficient scorer, is this the type of player we should be building around or can we get a Kobe

Kanter is a back to the basket big that slows the game down and has tunnel vision...who also can’t guard a chair.

[BKlutch]

I’m talking efficient scoring.

Not style of play.

I don’t see KD either.

Kanter is a really efficient scorer, is this the type of player we should be building around or can we get a Kobe

Kanter is a back to the basket big that slows the game down and has tunnel vision...who also can’t guard a chair.

Melo was also a player who slowed down the game and had tunnel vision..who also couldn't guard a chair.

[Greenie]

I for one don't think so. Knox plays more like Durant, the person Knox has admitted on record is his idol. Even noted this earlier in the thread. Now Knox has had dialogue with Bernard King, but I wouldn't say he's patterned his game after him. I see no Melo at all.

I’m talking efficient scoring.

Not style of play.

I don’t see KD either.

So every inefficient shot is a Melo shot? Cool. Now move on.

On this board? Yeah.

As I said before. Either we want efficient players or we don’t.

Replace Melo with Timmy. Same rules apply. One of Timmy biggest knocks is his utter lack of efficiency.

People literally call dude a female. Knox is literally shooting worse from the field. Rookie or not efficiency should be a concern.

[BKlutch]

OK, it's true, Melo would have slapped at that chair.

[K_ick_God]

Snap Redraft ... Doncic clearly 1, Knox maybe 3-6?