Kemba's staying no matter what, right or wrong?

[HornetsFan29]

crazy what one road trip does to a fanbase

I told you that it was coming and looking at our schedule it don't really get any better I don't see us going on any big winning streak might win 2 in a row or something like that but no big streak or anything.

[Diop]

I joined RealGM about six years ago, and in that time I've seen people want us to trade Kemba at some point literally every season.

And thank God we never did, otherwise we never would have enjoyed all this success!

[Hornet Mania]

I joined RealGM about six years ago, and in that time I've seen people want us to trade Kemba at some point literally every season.

And thank God we never did, otherwise we never would have enjoyed all this success!

Meh, trading him hardly makes me think things would have been different. We'd just be watching Brandon Ingram and Trae Young out there getting owned every night instead.

As a bonus, if we'd traded Kemba before he learned to shoot we'd have the additional trauma of watching him blossom on his new team. Then every time someone suggested trading Monk/Miles/future prospect we'd all have awful flashbacks and go "No, no, he's about to turn the corner! Imagine if we had kept Kemba, it would all have been different!"

[Diop]

I joined RealGM about six years ago, and in that time I've seen people want us to trade Kemba at some point literally every season.

And thank God we never did, otherwise we never would have enjoyed all this success!

Meh, trading him hardly makes me think things would have been different. We'd just be watching Brandon Ingram and Trae Young out there getting owned every night instead.

As a bonus, if we'd traded Kemba before he learned to shoot we'd have the additional trauma of watching him blossom on his new team. Then every time someone suggested trading Monk/Miles/future prospect we'd all have awful flashbacks and go "No, no, he's about to turn the corner! Imagine if we had kept Kemba, it would all have been different!"

I'm not saying we should've traded him, it's just hard to say it worked out great for us seeing how little success we've had in a crappy conference

[Robot Rock]

And thank God we never did, otherwise we never would have enjoyed all this success!

Meh, trading him hardly makes me think things would have been different. We'd just be watching Brandon Ingram and Trae Young out there getting owned every night instead.

As a bonus, if we'd traded Kemba before he learned to shoot we'd have the additional trauma of watching him blossom on his new team. Then every time someone suggested trading Monk/Miles/future prospect we'd all have awful flashbacks and go "No, no, he's about to turn the corner! Imagine if we had kept Kemba, it would all have been different!"

I'm not saying we should've traded him, it's just hard to say it worked out great for us seeing how little success we've had in a crappy conference

That's not Kemba's fault. You act like he's holding us back or something.

[316Hornets]

Kemba is keeping us on the treadmill to mediocrity and Jordan keeps throwing logs on the fire to keep it burning when we should have started tanking as soon as Batum turned out to be a total loser.

[Robot Rock]

I'll never advocate trading Kemba so we can

1) pick fifth in a draft with four stars
2) pick second in a draft with one star
3) pick third in a draft with three stars but pass on the star for a UNC player

Basically, this whole board will just be hand-wringing when we draw the first pick beyond whoever is worth tanking for. Lather, rinse, repeat.

[Diop]

Meh, trading him hardly makes me think things would have been different. We'd just be watching Brandon Ingram and Trae Young out there getting owned every night instead.

As a bonus, if we'd traded Kemba before he learned to shoot we'd have the additional trauma of watching him blossom on his new team. Then every time someone suggested trading Monk/Miles/future prospect we'd all have awful flashbacks and go "No, no, he's about to turn the corner! Imagine if we had kept Kemba, it would all have been different!"

I'm not saying we should've traded him, it's just hard to say it worked out great for us seeing how little success we've had in a crappy conference

That's not Kemba's fault. You act like he's holding us back or something.

Lol no Im not and I never have. This team is crap, we don't have the asset's to get him the players he needs to win. Hence why he's thinking about leaving.

The team needs a rebuild and he's the only thing we can trade for anything useful.

I actually think we will "wring" out the year, achieve nothing and watch kemba go to a basketball team where he can win

[pad300]

Hey Diop, et.l, I'd like to point you guys to this,
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1790356&start=20#p71804458
and ask your thoughts.

I think you should expand your targets pool ; maybe I am underrating how much you value Ingram (or DSJ) but I think the offers are pretty competitive.

[DY_nasty]

crazy what one road trip does to a fanbase

I told you that it was coming and looking at our schedule it don't really get any better I don't see us going on any big winning streak might win 2 in a row or something like that but no big streak or anything.

its the longest road trip of the year, and the reason why everyone's pants are moist is because its *how* we're losing

all the "we should get beal's" in the world missed the point - we can't rebound, and we can't defend. with cody out, we're playing the same fundamentally broken basketball that mike dunlap was forced to implement. games that should be blowouts are tight due to kemba's growing disinterest and games that could be close end up out of control in minutes due to our inability to defend or rebound

everyone here would be cool if the games were played well or if anyone was consistent hell, that's why everyone is wishing for the good old days with steve clifford right now

[316Hornets]

Why would Kemba say these things if he wasn't fully committed to Charlotte? I'm almost certain he is staying here because if it was up in the air, he wouldn't say these things. He would be more honest to keep from losing his fans. Granted, Gordon Hayward did a similar thing and he also faced some backlash from Utah fans.

https://clutchpoints.com/hornets-news-kemba-walker-says-charlotte-perfect-for-him-midst-contract-year/

"“I love it,” Walker said of Charlotte, according to Jonathan Abrams of Bleacher Report. “I love it. It’s perfect for me. The pace of the city is pretty slow, which I love. It’s not fast-paced like New York. … I’m able to just live pretty much a normal life. I’m able to go out and eat and not really be bothered. Go to the mall and walk around, not really be bothered. That’s what I like, personally. That’s the kind of life I like to live.”"

"“Kemba is a bit of a mellow guy, and I think he likes the laid-back attitude of the city,” said Jeff Schwartz, Walker’s agent. “I think he’s just really comfortable. Think about where Kemba grew up. He grew up in New York, and Charlotte is really different. I think Kemba is completely comfortable in New York, but from a lifestyle and growing up and becoming an adult and having a life outside of the gym, I just think he’s really comfortable. I think it’s symbiotic with the way Charlotte has treated him and the way he reacts to Charlotte.”"

[Eoghan]

crazy what one road trip does to a fanbase

I told you that it was coming and looking at our schedule it don't really get any better I don't see us going on any big winning streak might win 2 in a row or something like that but no big streak or anything.

its the longest road trip of the year, and the reason why everyone's pants are moist is because its *how* we're losing

all the "we should get beal's" in the world missed the point - we can't rebound, and we can't defend. with cody out, we're playing the same fundamentally broken basketball that mike dunlap was forced to implement. games that should be blowouts are tight due to kemba's growing disinterest and games that could be close end up out of control in minutes due to our inability to defend or rebound

everyone here would be cool if the games were played well or if anyone was consistent hell, that's why everyone is wishing for the good old days with steve clifford right now

I am definitely not missing Clifford. I'm fine with what we've got. This is what you get with a roster full of 1 dimensional players and crappy bigs. All that crap we were seemingly good at under Clifford was just lipstick on a pig and capped us out in terms of basketball success.

[JMAC3]

I think Kemba definitely prefers to stay, but it’s clear he has a few factors that need to be taken care in order to stay.

Not exactly sure what they are but it’s been rumored he wants the full max. Also would prefer talent level on team to be better.

I don’t think we can stand pat and expect him to take a discount just because he likes the city.


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[Chapelchilla]

I hope that if he says he will stay we keep him. But, if it's not a lock for him to stay if we offer the most $, better trade him now. Kemba strikes me as a man of his word but ya never know.....

[TooBigYo]

I come in peace, and for Kemba let's be honest.

Do you folks expect a better return for Kemba than Rubio +2 protected firsts?

If so, do you have any trades in mind?

[Eoghan]

I come in peace, and for Kemba let's be honest.

Do you folks expect a better return for Kemba than Rubio +2 protected firsts?

If so, do you have any trades in mind?

Probably. Unless those are some loosely protected firsts. Even then, I don't know. This feels like a "no right answer" scenario Charlotte has themselves in. But our FO has said they wouldn't trade Kemba unless an All-Star was coming back.

[catch20two]

I come in peace, and for Kemba let's be honest.

Do you folks expect a better return for Kemba than Rubio +2 protected firsts?

If so, do you have any trades in mind?

Ricky Rubio + two protected 1st rounders isn’t a bad offer but with Utah being a playoff contender whom picks will likely be outside of the lottery it’s likely not the haul our front office is looking for.

A trade that our front office would likely have in mind for Kemba should involve somebody like Jamaal Murray or Dennis Smith Jr coming back to Charlotte in return.

[JMAC3]

In reality if you take out all the drama and college player from
NC narrative.I would say the best trade for both teams would be to send Kemba to the Lakers for Ball and Ingram.

The first reason I say that is because they are young and cheap and would fit our direction of a rebuild. The second reason being I think they fit in nicely with our younger players.

Lonzo-1
Monk-2
Ingram-2/3
Miles-3/4

Those four guys compliment each other nicely size and skill wise.

Not saying Monk is guaranteed to work out, but Ball would be ideal to play with because his defense would cover up some of Monks size. Then Ingram would be a solid go to option for us to replace Kemba and he could flex over to the 2 if Monk continues to come off bench.

I love Kemba but he does leave some lacking in his passing vision and creativity and I think a guy like Miles would thrive off the ball playing with Ball- big reason I think Kuzma has transitioned so easy.

Then use our pick to draft a young center who can play above the rim.

Lonzo-Monk-Ingram- Miles- athletic center

That’s a great start to a rebuild that could be a solid defensive team that spaces floor and is a nightmare in transition.




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[catch20two]

I don’t think the Lakers are ready to give up on Ball just yet. Something tells me that even if the Lakers traded for or signed Kemba that him and Ball would both start together as dual PGs.

Ingram will definitely be on the trade block.

[Diop]

yeah I think it would be more Ingram, Hart and maybe Zubac.

Hart is a very solid Sg prospect. Give the reigns to Devonte