PG Thread: Excellent loss

[god shammgod]

well damn

[3toheadmelo]

if you look at it month by month in year 1, durant's efficiency was equally bad until the last 2 months. also, knox might not as good as durant. he could just as easily be rudy gay or anywhere in-between the two. at this point it's a wait and see. maybe we should shut the forum down until then. just an idea.

He’s not as good as Durant.

Rudy Gay is actually a great comparison.

shieet i can live with that if it means breaking craptors fans hearts

Watch on YouTube

[Capn'O]

I think he will stay sub 40%

Bet! Bet! Bet! Bet!

I want your Avi

Tron Carter gets right of first refusal. Then we can talk.

[Greenie]

if you look at it month by month in year 1, durant's efficiency was equally bad until the last 2 months. also, knox might not as good as durant. he could just as easily be rudy gay or anywhere in-between the two. at this point it's a wait and see. maybe we should shut the forum down until then. just an idea.

He’s not as good as Durant.

Rudy Gay is actually a great comparison.

shieet i can live with that if it means breaking craptors fans hearts

Watch on YouTube

Me too

[cuyankees]

Knox is shooting a little over 38% from the field which obviously isn't ideal. Rookies should get a lot of leeway, especially someone like Knox who is playing with a very bad starting back court that doesn't get many people involve on the offensive end. I'm pretty sure this team averages the lowest amount of assist per game in the league right now which correlates with them having the lowest FG% in the league. When you have very little ball distribution with your backcourt having a high usage rating and not getting teammates involved, everyone's FG #'s will be taking a hit.

Trae Young is shooting 39% from the field, and the great Luca Doncic is shooting just a shade over 43% from the field. Some people compare Knox to Booker who averaged around 42% from the field in his rookie season. Obviously I'd like to see Knox' FG % go at least above 40% before the season is over but when you look at who he's playing with in the starting lineup and I can understand why he sometimes takes some ill advised shots. He doesn't know when he'll be able to touch the ball again when you're playing with kamikaze pilot type of players in Mudiay and Tim.

Knox's efficiency is important bc when KP returns and whomever comes next season (draft and/ FA) Knox is a 3/4 option @ best. Sound familiar? We already have a debacle @ SG.

Regardless, it's hard to get excited when watching Knox throw up floaters, layups going away from the basket and playing matador defense all the while teams giving him room bc NYK are a joke and down by double digits.

Sense I get is there is a lot of box score cheerleaders who don't watch games/highlights and see how it's done in context.

[21 Hussle]

lol it’s been established already that Greenie doesn’t like anyone on this team other than Mitch. No need to keep going back and forth on a losing argument.

[Greenie]

Bet! Bet! Bet! Bet!

I want your Avi

Tron Carter gets right of first refusal. Then we can talk.

Oh no. I want you Cap.

[Greenie]

lol it’s been established already that Greenie doesn’t like anyone on this team other than Mitch. No need to keep going back and forth on a losing argument.

I like KP too.
I just don’t like him as a PF.

He’s my favorite at center

[Greenie]

Knox is shooting a little over 38% from the field which obviously isn't ideal. Rookies should get a lot of leeway, especially someone like Knox who is playing with a very bad starting back court that doesn't get many people involve on the offensive end. I'm pretty sure this team averages the lowest amount of assist per game in the league right now which correlates with them having the lowest FG% in the league. When you have very little ball distribution with your backcourt having a high usage rating and not getting teammates involved, everyone's FG #'s will be taking a hit.

Trae Young is shooting 39% from the field, and the great Luca Doncic is shooting just a shade over 43% from the field. Some people compare Knox to Booker who averaged around 42% from the field in his rookie season. Obviously I'd like to see Knox' FG % go at least above 40% before the season is over but when you look at who he's playing with in the starting lineup and I can understand why he sometimes takes some ill advised shots. He doesn't know when he'll be able to touch the ball again when you're playing with kamikaze pilot type of players in Mudiay and Tim.

Knox's efficiency is important bc when KP returns and whomever comes next season (draft and/ FA) Knox is a 3/4 option @ best. Sound familiar? We already have a debacle @ SG.

Regardless, it's hard to get excited when watching Knox throw up floaters, layups going away from the basket and playing matador defense all the while teams giving him room bc NYK are a joke and down by double digits.

Sense I get is there is a lot of box score cheerleaders who don't watch games/highlights and see how it's done in context.

Cook’s this squad is rather wack. My single joy this season is Mitch. The rest of these dudes need to get off my squad so we can prepare for the arrival of Zion.

[Cookies4Life]

Knox is shooting a little over 38% from the field which obviously isn't ideal. Rookies should get a lot of leeway, especially someone like Knox who is playing with a very bad starting back court that doesn't get many people involve on the offensive end. I'm pretty sure this team averages the lowest amount of assist per game in the league right now which correlates with them having the lowest FG% in the league. When you have very little ball distribution with your backcourt having a high usage rating and not getting teammates involved, everyone's FG #'s will be taking a hit.

Trae Young is shooting 39% from the field, and the great Luca Doncic is shooting just a shade over 43% from the field. Some people compare Knox to Booker who averaged around 42% from the field in his rookie season. Obviously I'd like to see Knox' FG % go at least above 40% before the season is over but when you look at who he's playing with in the starting lineup and I can understand why he sometimes takes some ill advised shots. He doesn't know when he'll be able to touch the ball again when you're playing with kamikaze pilot type of players in Mudiay and Tim.

Knox's efficiency is important bc when KP returns and whomever comes next season (draft and/ FA) Knox is a 3/4 option @ best. Sound familiar? We already have a debacle @ SG.

Regardless, it's hard to get excited when watching Knox throw up floaters, layups going away from the basket and playing matador defense all the while teams giving him room bc NYK are a joke and down by double digits.

Sense I get is there is a lot of box score cheerleaders who don't watch games/highlights and see how it's done in context.

I hope that last sentence wasn't some thinly-veiled shot at myself. I've watched almost every game this year including preseason and Summer League.

i have no problem with Knox taking floaters- that's a part of his offensive versatility. I agree with you 100% on his lack of defense. At times when he's engaged, he plays pretty good man to man defense. He gets beat a lot to the rim and his defensive awareness (opposing players making backdoor cuts, etc,) has to be improved upon.

I personally don't care what his averages are in a throw away season- I just want to see him develop and continue to improve as the season goes on.

I'd like to see him give better effort defensively, attack the glass a bit more, not put his head down so much when he makes a mistake, and play within the flow of the offense. As I said before, it's hard to be an efficient wing player when you're playing 20+ minutes a night alongside Hardaway jr and Mudiay. Those guys don't make a concerted effort to get their other teammates in good position to be efficient.

[Tron Carter]

Bet! Bet! Bet! Bet!

I want your Avi

Tron Carter gets right of first refusal. Then we can talk.

I accept. Its not even all star break. I’ll stand behind our rook.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Yet that’s still way better than Knox.

Knox is shooting worse than Timmy.

Efficiency is a concern, but Knox has shown significant improvement already.

The last 17 games Knox is shooting 17.1 pg, 41.4%fg, 38% 3, 74% ft. His efficiency has gone up each month over the last 3.

The last 6 games he has a TS% of 55% in this month.

Yes, he needs to improve, but it’s actually happening. We saw it last night. He is taking better shots, and playing much better overall.

He’s improving from that horrible start. He’s still not efficient but he’s improving making his shots. That’s not really saying much at this point.

...and as much as I’m not feeling dude I don’t run in here every time he has a stinker(which would be often), but I’m watching dude and just don’t see the hype.

I think its saying a lot how much he has improved already. Of course everyone wanted Knox to come out hot, but he was hurt and adjusting. It's understandable he got off to a slow start. He will still have his ups and downs. He has his flaws for sure.

I am not sure how good he will be, efficient he will be or if he will ever be a star, but I doubt he is finished improving. He is gonna score some points. Even more so then efficiency, I would like for him to get better on defense, rebound and do some other things. That will probably take more time to see.

[Juco24]

Frank is really developing that euro step as his go to move. Things are progressing for him... Just at snails pace. Something many don't want to hear. PATIENCE

in the grand scheme of things, is it really THAT slow? he's a 20-year-old in his second NBA season.

TOTALLY AGREE

[Capn'O]

I want your Avi

Tron Carter gets right of first refusal. Then we can talk.

Oh no. I want you Cap.

After the terrific success of Avocado Beyonce, I'd be happy to work out another bet, but the ball is in Tron's court.

[dakomish23]

Frank is really developing that euro step as his go to move. Things are progressing for him... Just at snails pace. Something many don't want to hear. PATIENCE

Some Knicks fans love potential but have no patience.

The knowledgeable ones are patient . However those that buy high priced tickets aren’t. Unfortunately those the ones Dolan cares about the most.

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[Greenie]

I want your Avi

Tron Carter gets right of first refusal. Then we can talk.

I accept. Its not even all star break. I’ll stand behind our rook.

I said Cap, not you.

I will honor nothing with you.

[Greenie]

Tron Carter gets right of first refusal. Then we can talk.

Oh no. I want you Cap.

After the terrific success of Avocado Beyonce, I'd be happy to work out another bet, but the ball is in Tron's court.

Hence why it’s you I want
This or nothing

[Greenie]

Dp

[Greenie]

I actually miss my Beyonce/Avocado avi.

[Capn'O]

Oh no. I want you Cap.

After the terrific success of Avocado Beyonce, I'd be happy to work out another bet, but the ball is in Tron's court.

Hence why it’s you I want
This or nothing

So you're setting up for the loss already

Don't want none of Tron's smoke...